[Gaim-features] [ gaim-Feature Requests-1517536 ] ICQ: ability to add without authorization
Feature Requests item #1517536, was opened at 2006-07-05 10:02 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by thekingant You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350235&aid=1517536&group_id=235 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Closed Resolution: Rejected Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Craig (kremmen) Assigned to: Mark Doliner (thekingant) Summary: ICQ: ability to add without authorization Initial Comment: In the days prior to server lists, there were common hacks available to the official ICQ clients to make them ignore the authorization process when adding new contacts. (... and not display ads, and so on.) The authorization process was completely optional, as all data was stored locally anyhow. If you install a newer ICQ (2001b and on), it uploads the complete client-based contact list automatically to the ICQ server with no new authorization. It would be much simpler for users if GAIM would use that mechanism for adding users, if possible, and ignore the whole authorization farce altogether. -- >Comment By: Mark Doliner (thekingant) Date: 2007-04-02 00:39 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=20979 Originator: NO I'm not really concerned with how secure or insecure it is. I'm concerned with AOL's perception of Gaim. I don't think we should do anything to make them think we're trying to undermine their intent. Also, anyone with an old (2000b and prior) ICQ should upgrade to a newer (2001b and on) ICQ before trying ANYTHING. 2000b and earlier don't store your contact list on the server, so you'll lose your list if you move to a different computer or switch to any other client. I don't really see a need for Gaim to document the deficiencies of a 6 year old IM client. -- Comment By: Craig (kremmen) Date: 2007-04-01 21:01 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1540506 Originator: YES I think you missed the point(s). 1) ICQ has no real security. If other programs can bypass it, not doing so means GAIM is simply lacking a feature that others use. 2) Having to get authorisation again because one switches to GAIM is not security, it's just a waste of time and a giant pain. At the very least, it would be appropriate to document that anyone with an old (2000b and prior) ICQ should upgrade to a newer (2001b and on) ICQ before trying GAIM, as GAIM will not handle the situation properly. -- Comment By: Mark Doliner (thekingant) Date: 2007-04-01 18:50 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=20979 Originator: NO I'm going to reject his. I don't think Gaim should be in the habit of bypassing security mechanisms that are put into place by the IM networks we connect to. -- Comment By: Alexander Kostadinov (akostadinov) Date: 2006-08-24 13:34 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1142898 agree to be very useful. I used micq before and now I'm bored to ask for authorization -- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350235&aid=1517536&group_id=235 - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Gaim-features mailing list Gaim-features@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-features
[Gaim-features] [ gaim-Feature Requests-1517536 ] ICQ: ability to add without authorization
Feature Requests item #1517536, was opened at 2006-07-06 00:02 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by kremmen You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350235&aid=1517536&group_id=235 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None Status: Closed Resolution: Rejected Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Craig (kremmen) Assigned to: Mark Doliner (thekingant) Summary: ICQ: ability to add without authorization Initial Comment: In the days prior to server lists, there were common hacks available to the official ICQ clients to make them ignore the authorization process when adding new contacts. (... and not display ads, and so on.) The authorization process was completely optional, as all data was stored locally anyhow. If you install a newer ICQ (2001b and on), it uploads the complete client-based contact list automatically to the ICQ server with no new authorization. It would be much simpler for users if GAIM would use that mechanism for adding users, if possible, and ignore the whole authorization farce altogether. -- >Comment By: Craig (kremmen) Date: 2007-04-02 11:01 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1540506 Originator: YES I think you missed the point(s). 1) ICQ has no real security. If other programs can bypass it, not doing so means GAIM is simply lacking a feature that others use. 2) Having to get authorisation again because one switches to GAIM is not security, it's just a waste of time and a giant pain. At the very least, it would be appropriate to document that anyone with an old (2000b and prior) ICQ should upgrade to a newer (2001b and on) ICQ before trying GAIM, as GAIM will not handle the situation properly. -- Comment By: Mark Doliner (thekingant) Date: 2007-04-02 08:50 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=20979 Originator: NO I'm going to reject his. I don't think Gaim should be in the habit of bypassing security mechanisms that are put into place by the IM networks we connect to. -- Comment By: Alexander Kostadinov (akostadinov) Date: 2006-08-25 03:34 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1142898 agree to be very useful. I used micq before and now I'm bored to ask for authorization -- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350235&aid=1517536&group_id=235 - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Gaim-features mailing list Gaim-features@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-features
[Gaim-features] [ gaim-Feature Requests-1517536 ] ICQ: ability to add without authorization
Feature Requests item #1517536, was opened at 2006-07-05 10:02 Message generated for change (Comment added) made by thekingant You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350235&aid=1517536&group_id=235 Please note that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: None Group: None >Status: Closed >Resolution: Rejected Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Craig (kremmen) Assigned to: Mark Doliner (thekingant) Summary: ICQ: ability to add without authorization Initial Comment: In the days prior to server lists, there were common hacks available to the official ICQ clients to make them ignore the authorization process when adding new contacts. (... and not display ads, and so on.) The authorization process was completely optional, as all data was stored locally anyhow. If you install a newer ICQ (2001b and on), it uploads the complete client-based contact list automatically to the ICQ server with no new authorization. It would be much simpler for users if GAIM would use that mechanism for adding users, if possible, and ignore the whole authorization farce altogether. -- >Comment By: Mark Doliner (thekingant) Date: 2007-04-01 18:50 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=20979 Originator: NO I'm going to reject his. I don't think Gaim should be in the habit of bypassing security mechanisms that are put into place by the IM networks we connect to. -- Comment By: Alexander Kostadinov (akostadinov) Date: 2006-08-24 13:34 Message: Logged In: YES user_id=1142898 agree to be very useful. I used micq before and now I'm bored to ask for authorization -- You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350235&aid=1517536&group_id=235 - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Gaim-features mailing list Gaim-features@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gaim-features
