Re: [galaxy-dev] hierarchical ObjectStore - noatime

2013-12-03 Thread Björn Grüning
Thanks for the info Nate and Dannon!

Bjoern

> Hi Björn,
> 
> 
> atime is definitely not used by Galaxy, and we have generally disabled
> it on all filesystems we mount.
> 
> 
> --nate
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Dannon Baker 
> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Bjoern Gruening
>  wrote:
> The new discs will be type="distributed" id="primary"
> and the old disc
> will become type="disk" id="secondary". If I
> understood correctly the
> old disc is them in some read-only state and will not
> touched until the
> primary discs are full or not working ...
> 
> 
> Correct -- the default HierarchicalObjectStore always writes
> new files to the first ObjectStore but can read through to any
> of them.  Probably worth noting that, with this base
> implementation (that could easily be extended to do whatever
> you'd prefer), when the first objectstore gets full it still
> won't attempt to write to the second.
> 
>  
> Is it save to mount the old discs or all discs with
> noatime, to get a
> small performance gain? Is Galaxy using noatime?
> 
> 
> I do believe we're using it, but Nate would be better able to
> comment on the actual performance gain we see.
> 
>  
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Re: [galaxy-dev] hierarchical ObjectStore - noatime

2013-12-03 Thread Nate Coraor
Hi Björn,

atime is definitely not used by Galaxy, and we have generally disabled it
on all filesystems we mount.

--nate


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Dannon Baker  wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Bjoern Gruening  > wrote:
>
>> The new discs will be type="distributed" id="primary" and the old disc
>> will become type="disk" id="secondary". If I understood correctly the
>> old disc is them in some read-only state and will not touched until the
>> primary discs are full or not working ...
>>
>
> Correct -- the default HierarchicalObjectStore always writes new files to
> the first ObjectStore but can read through to any of them.  Probably worth
> noting that, with this base implementation (that could easily be extended
> to do whatever you'd prefer), when the first objectstore gets full it still
> won't attempt to write to the second.
>
>
>> Is it save to mount the old discs or all discs with noatime, to get a
>> small performance gain? Is Galaxy using noatime?
>>
>
> I do believe we're using it, but Nate would be better able to comment on
> the actual performance gain we see.
>
>
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Re: [galaxy-dev] hierarchical ObjectStore - noatime

2013-12-03 Thread Dannon Baker
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Bjoern Gruening
wrote:

> The new discs will be type="distributed" id="primary" and the old disc
> will become type="disk" id="secondary". If I understood correctly the
> old disc is them in some read-only state and will not touched until the
> primary discs are full or not working ...
>

Correct -- the default HierarchicalObjectStore always writes new files to
the first ObjectStore but can read through to any of them.  Probably worth
noting that, with this base implementation (that could easily be extended
to do whatever you'd prefer), when the first objectstore gets full it still
won't attempt to write to the second.


> Is it save to mount the old discs or all discs with noatime, to get a
> small performance gain? Is Galaxy using noatime?
>

I do believe we're using it, but Nate would be better able to comment on
the actual performance gain we see.
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[galaxy-dev] hierarchical ObjectStore - noatime

2013-12-03 Thread Bjoern Gruening
Hi,

we want to put some more hard drives into your Galaxy Server. And we
plan to use the hierarchical ObjectStore for that purpose. 
The new discs will be type="distributed" id="primary" and the old disc
will become type="disk" id="secondary". If I understood correctly the
old disc is them in some read-only state and will not touched until the
primary discs are full or not working ...

Is it save to mount the old discs or all discs with noatime, to get a
small performance gain? Is Galaxy using noatime?

Thanks,
Bjoern

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