Re: [galaxy-dev] question about GALAXY_SLOTS
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Wolfgang Maier wolfgang.ma...@biologie.uni-freiburg.de wrote: Hi, this is just to make sure: the GALAXY_SLOTS environmental variable set by Galaxy when running tools will always be a number = 1 with 1 being the default if nothing else is configured in the job runner settings ? Correct ? Thanks, Wolfgang Hi Wolfgang, I believe so, however it is possible it might be unset in a corner case (please report this as a bug if you see it happen) or a tool could change the value. You can use the following bash syntax to set your own default in the tool's command template, e.g. -num_threads \${GALAXY_SLOTS:-8} Note the colon minus is the special bash syntax, here the default value is 8 (not minus 8) if $GALAXY_SLOTS is not set. Also note in the command XML you must escape the dollar sign. Peter ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using reply all in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/
Re: [galaxy-dev] question about GALAXY_SLOTS
On 10/17/2014 10:39 AM, Peter Cock wrote: On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Wolfgang Maier wolfgang.ma...@biologie.uni-freiburg.de wrote: Hi, this is just to make sure: the GALAXY_SLOTS environmental variable set by Galaxy when running tools will always be a number = 1 with 1 being the default if nothing else is configured in the job runner settings ? Correct ? Thanks, Wolfgang Hi Wolfgang, I believe so, however it is possible it might be unset in a corner case (please report this as a bug if you see it happen) or a tool could change the value. You can use the following bash syntax to set your own default in the tool's command template, e.g. -num_threads \${GALAXY_SLOTS:-8} Note the colon minus is the special bash syntax, here the default value is 8 (not minus 8) if $GALAXY_SLOTS is not set. Also note in the command XML you must escape the dollar sign. Peter Hi Peter, thanks for confirming. I'm not particularly worried about it being absent. My use-case is own software that has its own threading config settings, but when run in Galaxy should respect $GALAXY_SLOTS. To do this, it's checking for the presence of the environmental variable and gives it precedence over its own config. What would be problematic though is if in certain situations GALAXY_SLOTS could be 0 or a negative number or something that can't be cast to an int, but Björn's and your answer imply that this won't happen. By the way, there's one exception from the above precedence rule that I'm planning to implement: if GALAXY_SLOTS defaults to 1, I'll use the config settings instead, essentially giving users the choice if they prefer configuration from Galaxy or from the tool side. Do you think this is a good idea ? Best, Wolfgang ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using reply all in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/
Re: [galaxy-dev] question about GALAXY_SLOTS
Hi, I'm not sure to understand ... I was but not now anymore :P When you find \${GALAXY_SLOTS:-4} in a wrapper, and if you haven't set a tool_runner (-pe thread 8) for this tool, by default it will use 4 splots ! No ? Is there a global GALAXY_SLOTS variable ? Thanks Gildas Le 17/10/2014 02:03, Björn Grüning a écrit : Hi Wolfgang, \${GALAXY_SLOTS:-4} in this case will default to 4 if you have not configured it in job_conf.xml. Otherwise yes, it will be 1. Ciao, Bjoern Am 17.10.2014 um 00:05 schrieb Wolfgang Maier: Hi, this is just to make sure: the GALAXY_SLOTS environmental variable set by Galaxy when running tools will always be a number = 1 with 1 being the default if nothing else is configured in the job runner settings ? Correct ? Thanks, Wolfgang ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using reply all in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/ ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using reply all in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/ ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using reply all in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/
Re: [galaxy-dev] question about GALAXY_SLOTS
In theory GALAXY_SLOTS is now always set unless Galaxy is pretty old - I still think it is important for tools to specify defaults using the \${GALAXY_SLOTS:-4} idiom so that tools themselves don't have explicit dependencies on the Galaxy runtime and in case new resource managers or job runners come along that don't set this. That said - I figured someday someone would ask this question so there is indeed undocumented magic to determine if the number of slots has been configured explicitly to 1 or if that is just the fallback because it was left unspecified or Galaxy didn't know how to determine it from the resource manager. The magic environment variable is GALAXY_SLOTS_CONFIGURED - if that is set and GALAXY_SLOTS is 1 - Galaxy believes that the number of requested cores is truly and explicitly 1. If GALAXY_SLOTS is 1 and GALAXY_SLOTS_CONFIGURED is not set - Galaxy is just supplying the default of 1 to the tool because it doesn't know what else to do. (1 is used by the local runner if local_slots is not set i job_conf or used by all the other job runners if they cannot figure out what the environment is requesting). I don't know how actionable it is from a tool author perspective - but I did think it was important to track it. Hope this helps. -John On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 5:19 AM, Gildas Le Corguille lecorgui...@sb-roscoff.fr wrote: Hi, I'm not sure to understand ... I was but not now anymore :P When you find \${GALAXY_SLOTS:-4} in a wrapper, and if you haven't set a tool_runner (-pe thread 8) for this tool, by default it will use 4 splots ! No ? Is there a global GALAXY_SLOTS variable ? Thanks Gildas Le 17/10/2014 02:03, Björn Grüning a écrit : Hi Wolfgang, \${GALAXY_SLOTS:-4} in this case will default to 4 if you have not configured it in job_conf.xml. Otherwise yes, it will be 1. Ciao, Bjoern Am 17.10.2014 um 00:05 schrieb Wolfgang Maier: Hi, this is just to make sure: the GALAXY_SLOTS environmental variable set by Galaxy when running tools will always be a number = 1 with 1 being the default if nothing else is configured in the job runner settings ? Correct ? Thanks, Wolfgang ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using reply all in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/ ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using reply all in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/ ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using reply all in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/ ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using reply all in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/
Re: [galaxy-dev] question about GALAXY_SLOTS
On 10/17/2014 02:47 PM, John Chilton wrote: In theory GALAXY_SLOTS is now always set unless Galaxy is pretty old - I still think it is important for tools to specify defaults using the \${GALAXY_SLOTS:-4} idiom so that tools themselves don't have explicit dependencies on the Galaxy runtime and in case new resource managers or job runners come along that don't set this. That said - I figured someday someone would ask this question so there is indeed undocumented magic to determine if the number of slots has been configured explicitly to 1 or if that is just the fallback because it was left unspecified or Galaxy didn't know how to determine it from the resource manager. The magic environment variable is GALAXY_SLOTS_CONFIGURED - if that is set and GALAXY_SLOTS is 1 - Galaxy believes that the number of requested cores is truly and explicitly 1. If GALAXY_SLOTS is 1 and GALAXY_SLOTS_CONFIGURED is not set - Galaxy is just supplying the default of 1 to the tool because it doesn't know what else to do. (1 is used by the local runner if local_slots is not set i job_conf or used by all the other job runners if they cannot figure out what the environment is requesting). I don't know how actionable it is from a tool author perspective - but I did think it was important to track it. Hope this helps. Hi John, This is great ! I think it is very actionable for my case. I would just overwrite my tool's internal configuration with GALAXY_SLOTS if it is set and if GALAXY_SLOTS 1 or (GALAXY_SLOTS == 1 and GALAXY_SLOTS_CONFIGURED is set). Much better than having to guess for the == 1 case, thanks! Have a nice weekend, Wolfgang ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using reply all in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/
[galaxy-dev] question about GALAXY_SLOTS
Hi, this is just to make sure: the GALAXY_SLOTS environmental variable set by Galaxy when running tools will always be a number = 1 with 1 being the default if nothing else is configured in the job runner settings ? Correct ? Thanks, Wolfgang ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using reply all in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/
Re: [galaxy-dev] question about GALAXY_SLOTS
Hi Wolfgang, \${GALAXY_SLOTS:-4} in this case will default to 4 if you have not configured it in job_conf.xml. Otherwise yes, it will be 1. Ciao, Bjoern Am 17.10.2014 um 00:05 schrieb Wolfgang Maier: Hi, this is just to make sure: the GALAXY_SLOTS environmental variable set by Galaxy when running tools will always be a number = 1 with 1 being the default if nothing else is configured in the job runner settings ? Correct ? Thanks, Wolfgang ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using reply all in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/ ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using reply all in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/