Re: [galaxy-dev] repeat tag enhancement?
Hi John, thanks for your email and the links. Sorry, I missed the data set collection before. This is really an brilliant feature. In the morning, we tested it and we believe it will be very useful for us. However, we are waiting for further features for the data set collections (view, rename, reorder, expand, join, ...) I voted for several Trello cards mentioned in your presentation. Thanks a lot, Jens ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using "reply all" in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/
Re: [galaxy-dev] repeat tag enhancement?
Hello Jens, A high priority for the team is to replace the tool form with one that is more javascript driven - right now it repeatedly POSTs to the web server and has a lot of complicated server state handling. Moving this client side and doing these things more dynamically should enable enhancements like the ones outlined in this card (https://trello.com/c/RllVlsfg). These issues came up at the conference and they will hopefully be addressed soon-ish. This addresses the repeat tag limitations specifically - but workflows with variable numbers of input parameters isn't a problem that is just solved with UI enhancements. To broadly tackle the problem the team has been working on datasets collections and I just presented the work at the community conference bit.ly/gcc2014workflows. A lot of this is in -stable, but -central contains some important UI work and bug fixes that will be released with the next version of Galaxy. There are certainly times when it makes sense to place input dataset parameters inside of repeat blocks - but I think more tools are switching over to us multiple="true" on a single data parameter input. It allows for more rapid selection of many inputs and work more seamlessly with dataset collections. Hope this helps, -John On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:03 AM, Keilwagen, Jens wrote: > Hi guys, > > this threads has been inactive for quite a long while. However, I'd like to > restart the discussion. > > There are two alternatives for improving the usability of the repeat tag. > 1) If the repeat tag arguments could be populated using white pages and a > filter similar to the possibility for workflow, the user would be able to add > several inputs at once. > 2) If workflows would allow for using multiple (but not fixed number of) > inputs obtained via white pages as input of a repeat tag argument of a tool, > the user could use the functionality of multiple inputs (white pages) in > workflows. > > I would vote for the second proposal as it allows for building workflows with > variable number of inputs (e.g. read mapping and combined SNP calling for a > variable number of samples). Workflows with variable number of inputs have > been brought up from time to time at several posts or meetings. Hence, > solving this could be hitting 2 birds with one stone. > > However, proposal 2 has the drawback that using repeat tag arguments outside > of workflows is still a lot of manual work. > > This could be circumvented by tiny workflows consisting only of the tool of > interest (containing the repeat tag argument). > > best regards, Jens > > ___ > Please keep all replies on the list by using "reply all" > in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this > and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: > http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ > > To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: > http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/ ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using "reply all" in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/
Re: [galaxy-dev] repeat tag enhancement?
Here is the link to the original post/thread: http://dev.list.galaxyproject.org/repeat-tag-enhancement-tt4660660.html ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using "reply all" in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/
Re: [galaxy-dev] repeat tag enhancement?
Hi guys, this threads has been inactive for quite a long while. However, I'd like to restart the discussion. There are two alternatives for improving the usability of the repeat tag. 1) If the repeat tag arguments could be populated using white pages and a filter similar to the possibility for workflow, the user would be able to add several inputs at once. 2) If workflows would allow for using multiple (but not fixed number of) inputs obtained via white pages as input of a repeat tag argument of a tool, the user could use the functionality of multiple inputs (white pages) in workflows. I would vote for the second proposal as it allows for building workflows with variable number of inputs (e.g. read mapping and combined SNP calling for a variable number of samples). Workflows with variable number of inputs have been brought up from time to time at several posts or meetings. Hence, solving this could be hitting 2 birds with one stone. However, proposal 2 has the drawback that using repeat tag arguments outside of workflows is still a lot of manual work. This could be circumvented by tiny workflows consisting only of the tool of interest (containing the repeat tag argument). best regards, Jens ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using "reply all" in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/
Re: [galaxy-dev] repeat tag enhancement?
Thanks for your answers, we made a Trello card for this, feel free to vote. https://trello.com/c/RllVlsfg/989-repeat-tag-enhancement Best regards, Thomas -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ja...@taylorlab.org [mailto:ja...@taylorlab.org] Im Auftrag von James Taylor Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Juli 2013 17:42 An: Berner, Thomas Cc: galaxy-dev@lists.bx.psu.edu Betreff: Re: [galaxy-dev] repeat tag enhancement? Rather than adding additional increments to add/remove, what about allowing the user to directly set the number of elements in the repeat? -- James Taylor, Assistant Professor, Biology/CS, Emory University On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Berner, Thomas wrote: > Hey guys, > > > > i was searching the mailing list and wiki for some hints if there is > a possibility to enhance the repeat tag. > > We want to give the option to our users to add more than one > additional set of the contained parameters at one go e.g. 10 or 20 or > 50, because it can be very frustrating to click the "add new dataset" button > 50 times. > > Is there any option to do this with a text field or preset like "add > 20 new datasets" or something like that? > > I would be very thankful for an advice. > > > > Greetings, > > > > Thomas > > > > > > > ___ > Please keep all replies on the list by using "reply all" > in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other > Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: > http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ > > To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: > http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/ ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using "reply all" in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/
Re: [galaxy-dev] repeat tag enhancement?
Rather than adding additional increments to add/remove, what about allowing the user to directly set the number of elements in the repeat? -- James Taylor, Assistant Professor, Biology/CS, Emory University On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Berner, Thomas wrote: > Hey guys, > > > > i was searching the mailing list and wiki for some hints if there is a > possibility to enhance the repeat tag. > > We want to give the option to our users to add more than one additional set > of the contained parameters at one go e.g. 10 or 20 or 50, because it can be > very frustrating to click the “add new dataset” button 50 times. > > Is there any option to do this with a text field or preset like “add 20 new > datasets” or something like that? > > I would be very thankful for an advice. > > > > Greetings, > > > > Thomas > > > > > > > ___ > Please keep all replies on the list by using "reply all" > in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this > and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: > http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ > > To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: > http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/ ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using "reply all" in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/
Re: [galaxy-dev] repeat tag enhancement?
I like your proposal. I don't think it is currently possible to add - say - 5 repeat blocks at once. Feel free to add and describe your suggested enhancement on Trello, so I can vote for it :-) http://galaxyproject.org/trello Cheers, Joachim Joachim Jacob Contact details: http://www.bits.vib.be/index.php/about/80-team On 07/16/2013 01:34 PM, Berner, Thomas wrote: Hey guys, i was searching the mailing list and wiki for some hints if there is a possibility to enhance the repeat tag. We want to give the option to our users to add more than one additional set of the contained parameters at one go e.g. 10 or 20 or 50, because it can be very frustrating to click the “add new dataset” button 50 times. Is there any option to do this with a text field or preset like “add 20 new datasets” or something like that? I would be very thankful for an advice. Greetings, Thomas ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using "reply all" in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/ ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using "reply all" in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/
Re: [galaxy-dev] repeat tag enhancement?
Hi, Thomas, You might not have come across the right wiki page - try http://wiki.galaxyproject.org/Admin/Tools/ToolConfigSyntax#A.3Crepeat.3E_tag_set If a repeat is the right choice then min and max will do what you need I think. On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Berner, Thomas wrote: > Hey guys, > > ** ** > > i was searching the mailing list and wiki for some hints if there is a > possibility to enhance the repeat tag. > > We want to give the option to our users to add more than one additional > set of the contained parameters at one go e.g. 10 or 20 or 50, because it > can be very frustrating to click the “add new dataset” button 50 times. * > *** > > Is there any option to do this with a text field or preset like “add 20 > new datasets” or something like that? > > I would be very thankful for an advice. > > ** ** > > Greetings, > > ** ** > > Thomas > > ** ** > > ** ** > ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using "reply all" in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/
[galaxy-dev] repeat tag enhancement?
Hey guys, i was searching the mailing list and wiki for some hints if there is a possibility to enhance the repeat tag. We want to give the option to our users to add more than one additional set of the contained parameters at one go e.g. 10 or 20 or 50, because it can be very frustrating to click the "add new dataset" button 50 times. Is there any option to do this with a text field or preset like "add 20 new datasets" or something like that? I would be very thankful for an advice. Greetings, Thomas ___ Please keep all replies on the list by using "reply all" in your mail client. To manage your subscriptions to this and other Galaxy lists, please use the interface at: http://lists.bx.psu.edu/ To search Galaxy mailing lists use the unified search at: http://galaxyproject.org/search/mailinglists/