Hi Shaun and all:
In an ideal world games and other products would be accessible to
everyone, but the fact of the matter is universal accessibility is
almost impossible to achieve. At least not without developing a
product with the most common denominator in mind, and then the product
may suffer
I agree there tom about html and menues etc, and certainly it's something
I've used in the past for access to things like theatre time tables,
programs of events etc, even though from the perspective of the theatres etc
the html on their sites are not intended for access at all.
The problem
Hi Tom.
that is unfortunately true, though one interesting fact in beatemup terms is
that for everyone the casual beatemup is sort of a thing of the past. After
all when I was growing up it was quite possible to walk into an arcade or a
friends house and pick up something like mortal combat,
Hi.
I thought we'd already been through this. Tom is exactly right, particularly
since a lot goes into motion impared gaming.
I'd also like to point out that for certainly at least some groups
mainstream games are less inaccessible.
The principle reason doom 3 got the close captioning
Hi,
I've never used a gaming pad with my PC, so sorry if this seems a stupid
question. But if I were to go get a Microsoft game pad with the pc adaptor
could I use this with any audio game that usually uses the cursor keys to
move? Also you mentioned about programmable buttons, again if I
I think the problem today isn't so much the game complexity, more the
interinteraction complexity. I've seen a few slogans in my time and the best
one I've seen is simple to learn difficult to master. The simple to learn
bit should be the game interface. The difficult to master should be the game
Chess is a game that applies here. ,simple to learn, but hard to excell at.
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On Dec 10, 2013, at 9:41 AM, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com
wrote:
I think the problem today isn't so much the game complexity, more the
interinteraction complexity. I've seen a
Hi Dark:
Exactly. Although, Wii Sports is arguable. I have played Wii Sports
with little difficulty so that game at least is arguably more
accessible than most games, but I take your point about most pick up
and play games are non-staarters if you are blind.
On 12/10/13, dark d...@xgam.org
Hi Shaun:
Interesting. That sounds like it was real fun. I haven't had anything
like that lately either.
However, it goes back to what I said earlier on the list. It all
depends on the people you know and hang with. Some people really love
board games, others are into video games, and some don't
Well Darren, for sighted users beatemups don't have a complex interface in
terms of understanding what is going on. The problem tends to come in terms
of multiple block types, innumerable moves some of which counter others,
super moves, earning some bonuses from how you play that give you other
Hi Dark:
Yes, actually developing games for the blind requires a different set
of practices, some extra skills, and some forethought that would not
go into standard game programming. Anyone can go pick up a book on
programming games in C++, Java, or Python, but all is designed for
someone
Fair enough Tom.
I admit while I've briefly played a couple of the Wii sports games it's not
something I've done as frequently or know as much about as I do beatemups so
my assessment on the complexities of picking the thing up and playing
without sight might be off.
Beware the Grue!
Ark.
Hi Shaun:
Well, that is true to a point. The last time I went out shopping for a
general joystick, game pad, etc the only things I could find from
Logitech etc were specialized game controllers like racing wheels,
flight sticks, boxing gloves, and things of that sort. Best buy had a
few older
Hi Paul:
Yes and no. If the game in question does not support a joystick or a
game pad then ¿you can't just go buy a Microsoft XBox controller and
expect it to work with the game out of the box. You would have to
download a third-party tool called Joy2key which allows you to map
various keyboard
Well Tom, all that is unfortunately true, however there is one development
I've seen much more recently which has potential to if not change the
mainstream programming and access additions, at least setup an alternative.
I've noticed on the Iphone and with the increase in people using
Hi Dark:
You are exactly right. Any time a company does an inquiry about
accessibility they only get half the story. Usually some overly priced
access solution that does not serve their needs, because the
organizations for the blind are out to make a buck off of making
something accessible. So
I didn't have that much of that sort of thing but I did get on skype
with some friends and over the radio station I do stuff with do semi
play games.
Simular to dnd the , and when it gets to a point a decision needs to
be made he poles the group of us usually 2 or 3 on the server.
At 03:04 AM
Hi.
Decided today since I had vary little to do that I'd try all the old
3d games with 3d sound back.
3d soundback is a small old program for vista that is supposed to
allow old games to run that used direct sound, in old versions of
windows to run on win vista and over.
First settings are
do you mean age of empires or rize of nations or spore.
My friends play all those.
I am not sure how exactly it could be emulated, a few maps could be
done with tactical battle but it would take time to do and you
couldn't customise your species which is part of it.
on chooseyourstory.com there
well tom I do think a lot of the stuff I get here is imported.
At 02:44 AM 12/10/2013, you wrote:
Hi Shaun,
That is insane. I think it only costs me on average about $50 for a
ream of braille paper. Of course, I haven't purchased any in a long
time so costs could have gone up, but it never
I don't know how much is organizations trying to maintain their monopoly,
and how much is just people assuming that all blind people are over 70 and
thus don't use computers with compitance *cough Azabat! *cough!
At an rnib event I was at earlier this year for instance (I only went to see
the
Well all I know tom is that whenever I have gone shopping with my
friends to stores that used to be full with games years ago its
mostly console games now.
The computer games still exist but are less.
I think a lot is online to.
Another interesting fact at least from what I have seen on the
Hi Thomas,
Thanks for the reply. I wasn't aware of programs like Joy2Key, sounds
interesting though and I think I might look into getting a game pad and
giving it ago.
Thanks for the info.
Paul Lemm
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