Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-07 Thread Loravara
...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of QuentinC Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 5:27 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hello all, As I read it, mahjong would be a nice candidate game for the playroom. However, I don't know it at all. From what I remember, mahjong

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-07 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, I tend to agree with you on that point. You are probably right, and based on my own experience dealing with rehab centers and blind agencies they tend to have over simplified notions of blindness. The APH games is a case in point where I believe the author thought he was doing something

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-07 Thread dark
Hi Tom. This is exactly the same problem here in the Uk, indeed here it is worse sinse the Rnib dominates everything so much with their atitude, and even if someone did! make an accessible product of some sort, most people wouldn't get to here about it if the Rnib didn't give their blessing,

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, I have to agree with you on that point. Accessible game developers have pretty much over developed just about everything in the card and puzzle variety except Mahjong. I've seen a number of accessible Solitaire games, two or three versions of Monopoly, there is a couple versions of Uno,

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, That would be a good idea. I recently reinstalled XP on the family desktop PC to use as a all purpose gaming machine since a lot of games won't run on Win 7 and/or Linux, and I grabbed the APH demos. I couldn't get them to run right on XP either. However, as you say its no big loss.

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-06 Thread QuentinC
Hello all, As I read it, mahjong would be a nice candidate game for the playroom. However, I don't know it at all. From what I remember, mahjong was only a solitaire where you had to match tiles to reveal other ones and finally clear the all field. I didn't know that it was a true game. If

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Quentin, The Solitaire type Mahjong is only one variation on the Mahjong game. There are actually several different variations of Mahjong with different rules. and are played differently depending on the type of game. Like a standard deck of playing cards there are a number of different

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-06 Thread dark
Hi Tom. It's possible that they had partially deaf gamers in mind, though nothing like that is mentioned in the docs, and the way they seem so self congratulatory about how accessible the games are to blind people I think they probably would've. Myself, I'm more inclined to the theory that

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Actually, as I recall Tootle Tiles from APH is basically the same concept as Mahjong. So there is one example of an accessible Mahjong game that I know of. :D Cheers! On 6/1/2012 3:49 PM, dark wrote: Hi Nancy. I'm afraid there is no accessible mahjong that I have heard of, and

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ian, Mahjong is a game with various tiles you need to match together like a puzzle. Cheers! what is Mahjong? I am always interested to here about other games. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread dark
: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Dark, Actually, as I recall Tootle Tiles from APH is basically the same concept as Mahjong. So there is one example of an accessible Mahjong game that I know of. :D Cheers! On 6/1/2012 3:49 PM, dark wrote: Hi Nancy. I'm afraid there is no accessible

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread Loravara
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 4:12 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Tom. Fair enough. I know the game was based on mahjong, but with the sort of childish presentation I wasn't sure how much of the rules actually translated, sinse for a start I

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread Loravara
[mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 3:52 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Ian, Mahjong is a game with various tiles you need to match together like a puzzle. Cheers! what is Mahjong? I am

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread dark
). Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Loravara lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Tootle Tiles? Wow. It sounds like a kid's game. Smile Actually

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread Loravara
one of those suspicions I have. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 7:10 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi. Sounds fascinating, and I

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread Charles Rivard
are a close second. - Original Message - From: Loravara lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Actually, you may be thinking of Mahjong solitaire, which I don't want

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread dark
Hi. You mentioned a game called Mahjong solitare. Being a matching game for a single player, I bet toodle tiles is based on the rules of that, rather than the rules of actual mahjong, though it's a little bad that aph claime! it to be based on the ancient chinese game in their documentation.

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, You are probably right. I've never played Toodle Tiles myself, but by the childish sounding name I seriously doubt it is anything like Mahjong despite what their documentation says. APH always strikes me as treating blind users as either extremely old, or just barely above infantile. So

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread dark
beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Loravara lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Actually, you may be thinking of Mahjong solitaire, which

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread Loravara
:58 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong You confuse me with this: Regular mahjong plays a lot like rummy ... except where it doesn't, and there are a lot of ways it doesn't. So, does it play like Rummy? or not. That's an oxymoronic statement like

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread Loravara
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi. You mentioned a game called Mahjong solitare. Being a matching game for a single player, I bet toodle tiles is based on the rules of that, rather than the rules of actual mahjong, though it's a little bad that aph claime! it to be based

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Hmmm...Good point.All of APH's games are aimed at young children, and I don't believe they had older blind individuals like you and in mind. Considering the possible age groupe for Tootle Tiles its probably a simple or child's version of the game. Cheers! On 6/2/12, dark d...@xgam.org

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread Charles Rivard
...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong LOL. The core technique is similar. On your turn, you draw a tile from the wall, which is similar to the face down draw pile for a game

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread dark
. - Original Message - From: Loravara lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Dark, What is also ironic is that mahjong is not an ancient game. This misconception isn't spread

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, That makes two of us. I've never gotten the APH games to run either. However, I do believe they were written several years ago, and don't think they are being actively maintained by the developer. I'm not sure if this is intentional or ignorance on APH's part. Last time I looked at them

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread Charles Rivard
Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Dark, That makes two of us. I've never gotten the APH games to run either. However, I do believe they were written several

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, Smile. And that's about it. The shape of the record and the CD may be the same, but the actual mechanics of how they work is totally different. A phonograph follows the grooves in the record with a needle producing an analog reproduction of the sound/music. A CD player uses a laser to

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread Loravara
, June 02, 2012 9:31 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Well, although mud is more clear at a first going over, this does sound interesting. The first thought is 81 ways to score? Sheesh! Much more complicated than pinochle! (grin) --- Shepherds

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread Loravara
- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 9:23 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong It's not an oxymoron, accept that it is! :D. I think however what was meant here

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread Loravara
Of Thomas Ward Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 9:23 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Dark, You are probably right. I've never played Toodle Tiles myself, but by the childish sounding name I seriously doubt it is anything like Mahjong despite what

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread Loravara
: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Nancy. Unfortunately bookshare isn't available in the Uk, so I can't read that book, it is however interesting that the conception of the game as ancient isn't entirely wrong. Just one question, if you are making a pattern, which presumably you

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread dark
02, 2012 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Dark, That makes two of us. I've never gotten the APH games to run either. However, I do believe they were written several years ago, and don't think they are being actively maintained by the developer. I'm not sure

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread dark
: Saturday, June 02, 2012 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Charles, Yes, more complicated than pinochle, but oh, I'd love an accessible pinochle game that I could play against others. That would be awesome. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-02 Thread dark
...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong Hi Dark, Good questions. The tiles stand on their ends facing you. It isn't at all precarious because the tiles are fairly thick, and so

[Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-01 Thread Loravara
Hi There, I would love to find accessible versions of these games, either on Windows 7 or iPhone (or even on the Braille Sense, but since that seems unlikely, I'll keep my fingers crossed for the other two). Please let me know if there's anything available. Thanks, Nancy --- Gamers mailing

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-01 Thread dark
, especially sinse I have no idea how to play mahjong but would be interested to learn :D. Beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Loravara lorav...@comcast.net To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 7:36 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-01 Thread Gabriele Battaglia (Kriyaban)
Hi, there is an accessible checker on IOS. It is from Marcel Nijman. Have a good game. GBK. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-01 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Nancy, To clarify the below message, the app in question is called 10x10 Checker-wise Pro. There is also a chess game from this same developer, equally accessible. I don't know of any accessible Mahjong I'm afraid, though it would be nice to see. Enjoy, Zack. On Jun 1, 2012, at 1:25 PM,

Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Checkers, Mahjong

2012-06-01 Thread Ian McNamara
what is Mahjong? I am always interested to here about other games. Ian McNamara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at