Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-08-07 Thread valiant8086
Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman Hi Dark, That's a good question, and I'm not sure I'm the right person to ask. I rarely use Jaws any more myself. That said, I do know in the versions of Jaws I've used I can't just flick speech on and off the way I can with NVDA or the way you can

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-27 Thread shaun everiss
well daniel there are a few synths. there is a wiki page for all this crap somewhere on the nvda site but ofcause I can't think of this its something like list of speech synths. There is espeak, pico which is easy enough to set up, speech hub which can crash a lot, vocaliser which costs but is

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-27 Thread ishan dhami
Hi even if you can add freedom scientific vocaliser voices like ava and danielle as far as the concern of MR Charles and our moderator MR Thomas sir If you use both window like chatting and games JAWS will absolutely work no need to unload or shut down your screen reader If you want to really shut

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-27 Thread ishan dhami
to another application. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 25 July 2014 12:36 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman Hi Dark, That's a good question, and I'm

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-27 Thread ishan dhami
Hi I have only a flash game the blind swordsmen. Thanks Ishan On 7/26/14, Josh joshknnd1...@gmail.com wrote: what kinds of flash games do you play? The hungry robot ate my signature so that is why I no longer have one! Teresa Cochran wrote: I would have given up Windows long before I did if

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ishan,, I think you missed the point of this thread. Yes, we all know about putting Jaws to sleep via configuring it in the settings manager, but what Dark was concerned about was being able to simply turn speech on and off the way he does in Supernova. What you stated below was what we

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-27 Thread Ian Reed
Ishan said: If you have problem from NVDA press insert shift s to sleep NVDA Thomas said: By the way the command to silence speech in NVDA is insert+s not insert+shift+s. Do be careful when giving out information that it is accurate as possible as people are being entirely too casual about

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ian, Well, all I can say is I have NVDA 2014.2 and insert+shift+s does nothing on my system. I don't know what the problem or issue is, but that command does nothing for me. So based on that is why I said what I said. Cheers! On 7/27/14, Ian Reed supp...@blindaudiogames.com wrote: Ishan

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-27 Thread Ian Reed
Hi Tom, Ah, that makes sense then. I just installed NVDA 2014.2 and insert + shift + S does still toggle sleep mode on and off for me. I opened the NVDA 2014.2 Commands Quick Reference. In the ninth row of the first table of that document I find this: Toggle application sleep mode on and off

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ian, Ah, I stand corrected then. You are correct. I am using a laptop with NVDA in laptop keyboard mode so that is why NVDA+shift+s doesn't work. Upon checking the keyboard reference it is NVDA+shift+z which is why it didn't work for me. So apparently I owe Ishan an apology as it was my

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-26 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Danielle, Go to https://vocalizer-nvda.com/? that's where you can download demos, purchase voices, etc for NVDA. Cheers! On 7/26/14, Danielle Antoine singingmywa...@gmail.com wrote: Oh okay I'll have to look into it and play around with NVDA some more. Where do I get the Vocalizer voices?

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-26 Thread Josh
what kinds of flash games do you play? The hungry robot ate my signature so that is why I no longer have one! Teresa Cochran wrote: I would have given up Windows long before I did if NVDA hadn't come out. I really like that screen-reader. (yes, I donated LOL). It's easy to play flash games

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-26 Thread Charles Rivard
Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman Charles, I thought the command to unload Jaws was insert+f4 not insert+j. Last time I used Jaws insert+j opened the Jaws main window. Has that changed

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-26 Thread valiant8086
you switch focus to another application. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 25 July 2014 12:36 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman Hi Dark, That's a good question

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-26 Thread Danielle Antoine
Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman Hi Dark, That's a good question, and I'm not sure I'm the right person to ask. I rarely use Jaws any more myself. That said, I do know in the versions of Jaws I've used I can't just flick speech on and off

[Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, That's a good question, and I'm not sure I'm the right person to ask. I rarely use Jaws any more myself. That said, I do know in the versions of Jaws I've used I can't just flick speech on and off the way I can with NVDA or the way you can with Supernova. At least, that has been my

[Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, To be honest I don't see what Jaws having a scripting language has anything to do with this discussion of screen readers and games. Sure, its true that Jaws was one of the first screen readers to support a scripting language which made it very powerful, and helped push it to the

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread john
gamers@audyssey.org Date sent: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 06:35:46 -0400 Subject: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman Hi Dark, That's a good question, and I'm not sure I'm the right person to ask. I rarely use Jaws any more myself. That said, I do know in the versions of Jaws I've used I

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread tim
The only thing I see you can do is either unload jaws or put it to sleep. At 06:35 AM 7/25/2014, you wrote: Hi Dark, That's a good question, and I'm not sure I'm the right person to ask. I rarely use Jaws any more myself. That said, I do know in the versions of Jaws I've used I can't just

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi John, That's pretty much what I thought. Although, it should be possible to create a Jaws script that enables and disables sleep mode globally with a single hot key. I've never tried it before, but the Jaws scripting interface is fairly flexible in a lot of cases to add features like this as

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread dark
Hi Tom. It was really only idle curiosity sinse I certainly have no plans to switch to Jaws. it's just that as I said I flick supernova's speech on and off all the time (the key is ctrl )zero). For example I am currently watching Star trek deep space 9. Obviously I don't want to interupt

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread dark
also, I'll add supernova has a scripting language, you can write scripts in Luaa, although most of the time it's not necessary. i don't know what sn does with respect to direct x or wthe windows api, though obviously as I said it doesn't have the keyboard hooks thing. Beware the grue! Dark.

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Yeah, I understand that. I certainly had no illusions about you wanting to change screen readers. However, the basic thing I wanted to say is that there isn't a quick and easy way to switch speech on and off in Jaws the way you can in Supernova. Come to think of it I'm not sure there is

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread Teresa Cochran
In a lot of cases, even if you turn speech off for JAWS, you still have all the keyboard hooks digging into whatever application you're running, and they'll still interfere. That's why JAWS has a sleep mode. I know there's a way to simply disable speech, but I don't remember it. It's been seven

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread Teresa Cochran
I would have given up Windows long before I did if NVDA hadn't come out. I really like that screen-reader. (yes, I donated LOL). It's easy to play flash games with it still running, though I haven't tried stand-alone games yet. I'm an occasional Windows user. Teresa Winging its way from my

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread Darren Duff
NvDA does have an add-on that will do this. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 9:01 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman Hi Dark

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread Nicol
...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 25 July 2014 12:36 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman Hi Dark, That's a good question, and I'm not sure I'm the right person to ask. I rarely use Jaws any more myself. That said, I do know

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread Bryan Peterson
thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't! -Original Message- From: Nicol Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 2:54 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman Hi tom Well, in jaws15 you press alt plus windows key

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread David Reynolds
' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman No, that just shuts off speech. It has nothing to do with the keyboard hook. Oh freddled gruntbuggly, thy micturations are to me as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee. GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread Charles Rivard
Message - From: tim z200...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 6:33 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman The only thing I see you can do is either unload jaws or put it to sleep. At 06:35 AM 7/25/2014

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread Charles Rivard
- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman Hi Dark, Yeah, I understand that. I certainly had no illusions about you wanting to change

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, That's absolutely true. However, some people, myself included, like to multitask while playing games. I might be playing a game and be chatting online over instant messenger with a friend at the same time. So completely unloading the screen reader I am using isn't an option because I

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Charles, I thought the command to unload Jaws was insert+f4 not insert+j. Last time I used Jaws insert+j opened the Jaws main window. Has that changed or something? Cheers! On 7/25/14, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Assign a hot key, such as control alt j for starting JAWS from

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread Danielle Antoine
I was wondering the same thing. I'm still on the fence about NVDA. I would like something other than that almost robotic standard synth it comes with and when I'm doing surveys it doesn't always display the screen or even continue functioning especially if my JAWS demo times out and I launch NVDA.

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Danielle, I don't want to go too far off topic here, but I will say that NVDA supports a large number of software synthesizers besides Espeak which it comes with. If you are willing to put forward a little bit of money you can buy the Vocalizer voices for NVDA which will give you Daniel, Tom,

Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman

2014-07-25 Thread Danielle Antoine
Oh okay I'll have to look into it and play around with NVDA some more. Where do I get the Vocalizer voices? And I'm done with the off-topic post. Danielle On 7/26/14, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Danielle, I don't want to go too far off topic here, but I will say that NVDA