Hi Thomas,
Yes, it sure would take allot of work and allot of time even to change one
thing in all of my games. The code would be easy but then you have to compile,
package, up date the web page, up load the files and announce it all. Instead
I plan to keep having fun working on Dungeon
Hi Thomas,
I'm sorry, but neither of my Windows XP computers have a c:\Users folder, and I
doubt that VB6 has a way of finding that since as you said VB6 was out for like
Windows 98. The only folder on my computers that seem to know my name is
C:\Documents and Settings\Jim kitchen
BFN
Hi jim.
The equivalent folder to c:\users\ on windows 7 is c:\documents and
settings on windows xp.
On 9/13/12, Jim Kitchen j...@kitchensinc.net wrote:
Hi Thomas,
I'm sorry, but neither of my Windows XP computers have a c:\Users folder,
and I doubt that VB6 has a way of finding that since as
That is because xp don't have the folder structure that vista or win7
64bit ops do.
With just about everyone switching to 64 bit ops with new computers.
Your games and VB6 coding is being left behind just like dos. Tried
to tell you this many times for years, but landed on deff ears!
At 05:10
Hi Jim,
The directory tree is a bit different in Windows XP. Documents and
Settings is the equal of c:\Users today. I just googled the issue and
yes VB 6 can accurately locate the App Data directory on Windows 2000,
XP, Vista, and Windows 7. The reason is because Windows XP etc is a
decendant of
hmmm and not to mention that a lot of devs are still using old
codebases or at least a few of them are publically using them.
The good thing is that you can run a 32 bit os which does mean even
for win8 users that we still can go 32 bit if we want but this may be
the last one.
For those on
Hi Willem,
Thank you again very much for the information.
BFN
- Original Message -
Hi jim.
The equivalent folder to c:\users\ on windows 7 is c:\documents and
settings on windows xp.
Jim
Correct in Thought, Statement, or ActionTRUE!!
j...@kitchensinc.net
Hi Thomas,
Thank you very much for the information. I have looked at all of the VB6 stuff
for directories and did not see what you found on google, but that's ok because
I sure on the Green Mother's Earth am not going to rewrite Awesome Homer,
Baseball, BattleShip, Black Jack, Bop It,
On Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:05 AM, trouble wrote:
With just about everyone switching to 64 bit ops with new computers.
Your games and VB6 coding is being left behind just like dos.
end quote.
Not trying to start a war of any kind here. but did you know that all of
Jeremy kaldobsky, also
Hi Richard.
I really hope that we will be able to play all the VB6 games for many
years to come, as many of my favorite games are written in vb6. Not
only Jim's kitchensinc games and the games you mentioned are vb6, but
also GMA games, bsc, LWorks, and many other games. I can actually
think of
Hi Willem,
Same here. I really hope that the games written in Visual Basic 6 last
a good long time. So far we've been lucky and still get them to run on
the Windows 8 betas. However, I am concerned long term because the
issue is one of maintaining them as ops improve and change.
Already we can
HI,
Thanks for expanding on my thought there. I meant no disrespect to any other
programmer who currently uses VB6. Just those 2 games which are one of the
few multiplayer ones out there came to mind and used them as an example.
I take my hat off to all the programmers out there. I am old
we almost need some sort of vb 6 converter that would
1. convert all vb6 games to something like vb dotnet and compile
them with the right code.
In the case of jims games just converting them to bgt may be all we
need to do and if we can get something that can convert the games to
bgt that
I really don't have to think that hard. If you don't already have
VB6. Your going to be hard pressed in finding it or any support for
it. Even Microsoft won't give it any 64 bit support, and states it is
only 32 bit throughout its life cycle.
well I have the sp6 runtimes and if I get instructions to install
those on 64 bit is all ok.
as long as the runtimes are avalible and we have the right dx runtime
files to register we should be ok as long as we don't need even more
files and as long as those files can be previded for games by
Hi Richard,
Well, in my experience emulators are a bad idea because they often
aren't accessible. However, virtual machines are becoming quite
popular and are very accessible.Plus it makes it possible to run any
operating system inside a virtual machine.
For example, my laptop is running Ubuntu
Hi Shaun,
Oh, I think it will be at least 10 years before we see the end of
32-bit. Most apps and PCs out there are still 32-bit and it will take
years for that technology to be replaced by newer 64-bit apps and
hardware. Just look how long it took to go from 16-bit to 32-bit
before 16-bit apps
Hi Thomas,
So if I put a 32 bit application in
c:\program files\something
it would not run? And all 32 bit applications must be in
c:\program files(x86)\something
I thought that you said that Windows 7 64 bit actually want applications to be
installed in
c:\something\users\something
BFN
Hi jim.
The directory in the c:\users directory is supposed to keep setting so
if multiple users use the same program they can have different
settings.
32 bit Programs installed to the program files directory will still
run, but windows recommends that you keep 32 bit programs in the 32
bit
Hi Jim,
I'm not sure if you installed a 32-bit app to c:\Program
files\Something if it would run or not, but I do know Windows 7
reserves c:\Program Files exclusively for 64-bit applications.
Microsoft, for reasons I'm not sure of myself, have created a
c:\Program Files (x86) directory
Hi Thomas,
May I ask, when you say save the record scores, log files etc of my games to
the Application Data directory, does that mean to
c:\program files\kitchensinc\data
Or is there some folder some where named Application Data directory?
if it is c:\program files\kitchensinc\data then it is
Hi Willem,
Thank you very much for the information. Really appreciate it.
BFN
- Original Message -
Hi jim.
The directory in the c:\users directory is supposed to keep setting so
if multiple users use the same program they can have different
settings.
32 bit Programs installed to the
Hi Jim,
No. With Windows XP, Vista, and Windows 7 every user gets their own
personal application data folder. This is a special directory where
programs are suppose to save their files to. On XP it would let you
get away with writing files to c:\Program Files\Kitchensinc but as of
Vista and later
Hi Michael,
The thing is, I did not put out a new version of Monopoly or the trivia game
engine just to include the new files. There were changes to the games
themselves. But anyway if I combined all of the files and put out wingolf11
and announced it, people would ask what is different in
Hi Thomas,
Thank you very much for the answers to my questions about the Inno installer.
I had not looked at the Inno documentation, my assumptions were based on how I
saw it used by others.
Truthfully I do not think that it is that big enough of a problem for me to
repackage Awesome Homer,
Hi Jim,
That's precisely what I'm talking about. I have both Windows 7 32-bit
and Windows 7 64-bit here so I can test it out. It should pick the
correct instalation folder based on if the app is specified as x86 or
x64 in the Inno Setup script. While I'm thinking of it the other
advantage of Inno
Hi Shaun,
Simple, just compile a new installer. Once the Inno Scripts are
written it is a painless process to change version number and a couple
of things like that in the script, open it in the Inno Setup IDE, and
then hit compile. Five minutes later or so Jim gets a brand new setup
file. For a
jim I can probably help with inosetups if you want.
However I have only used the generator.
So I could compile everything into a script but I couldn't do anything else.
At 02:00 p.m. 11/09/2012 -0400, you wrote:
Hi Shaun,
Simple, just compile a new installer. Once the Inno Scripts are
written
Hi Thomas,
Really I very much like my idea of just the self extracting zip files thus by
passing the whole Windows add slash remove programs and registry thing, and
then just a batch file to remove the game.
And as you yourself said, you would not develop something for a system that you
actually the innosetups can be uninstalled unless you tell them not to.
that is you can uninstall a program from its menu by default or going
to its directory manually and running uninst0.exe
At 07:04 p.m. 11/09/2012 -0400, you wrote:
Hi Thomas,
Really I very much like my idea of just the
Hi Jim,
Fair enough. Although, there is a very good reason why Winkit does not
install your files to c:\Program Files. The reason is because that
directory is reserved for 64-bit programs only. The c:\Program Files
(X86) directory is for 32-bit programs and is there for reserved for
backwards
Hi Thomas,
Thank you very much for the offer, but I don't fancy repackaging my thirty some
games. Just curious but wouldn't Inno want to create a Kitchensinc folder each
time? And doesn't it want to make a sub folder for the sound files etc? And
doesn't it write to the registry? And
Hi Jim.
I would love it if there was a single installer that installed all
your games in one go, like winkit does with the menu system and VB6
files. Your games are small enough to not make a difference on most
computers, even if a user wants only a few of the games. And you get
many high quality
Hi Will,
Yeah all of my games do compress to somewhere around 74 MB. But I have to tell
you that I get asked allot how to get rid of tiny little programs like reader,
waver, my brain etc. I guess that some people really do not want things on
their computer that they do not want. And then
Hi Jim,
that's ok.
But could you think about doing something different?
Since you released your last version of the golf game, lots of golf courses
were released.
But there are a few of them grouped together, as well as the fix for the
golf course maker.
Shouldn't that fix be included in the
Hi Jim,
No, it is not necessary for Inno Setup to create a Kitchensinc folder
every time it installs a program. If it already exists it can be
scripted to simply update the existing folder. If it does not exist it
can create one.
As far as where sounds go again its not necessary to put them in a
Hi Jim,
UgThe setup program that came with VB 6 absolutely sucked. I hated
that setup installer program. Inno Setup is much more screen reader
friendly and a million times easier to use.
Tell you what I'll make all the setup installers for your games,
donate them to you, and then you can
and what about all the new games?
jim would have to create installers for each game.
I do know the codecguide guys use updaters for their klite codec pack
so maybe there are updating modules though i never have researched
them at all.
At 11:30 a.m. 10/09/2012 +0200, you wrote:
Hi Jim.
I
If 64-bit make sure it installs to program files (x86) by default the zips
will unzip to just program files.
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Orin
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 1:28 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Hi,
I have the game menu installed and I have no trouble with it working. In
fact, I have even played life.
Sharon
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Orin
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 1:28 PM
To: Gamers Discussion
Hi Orin,
Yeah, my winkit install goes in one folder and then the rest of my games unzip
to a different folder when one is running Windows 7 64 bit.
Below is what one lady wrote about the problem.
Hello all, I just found out something I hope will help you Sherry, ok you no
how in windows 7
Hi Jim,
You know, there is a very simple fix for that problem. Why not bundle
all your games using a setup utility like Inno Setup, and it will
detect things like this which would save people problems like this in
the future. If you want I can create some Inno Setup scripts for you
to build
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