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Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 12:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Hi Clement,
I introduced the first article with the statement that the NFB created a
car racing simulator game that they demonstrated at their July 2010
national
Hi Charles,
Friends have let me drive since I have been totally blind. Truthfully it was
not at all the same without the visual feedback. I would rather play my racing
game with it's audio feedback. Sure would like to give that computer driving
program with the vibrating feedback a try.
I agree. And whatever mechanical malfunctions may happen, my theory
is if you can't get it to work 100%, then don't give it to people. I
would personally
much rather walk than drive a car that might malfunction and leave me
as good as stranded in the middle of a busy road. They can't
guarantee
: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
I agree. And whatever mechanical malfunctions may happen, my theory is if
you can't get it to work 100%, then don't give it to people. I would
personally
much rather walk than drive a car that might malfunction and leave me
stop here.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Using your theory, there would be no cars
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
I'm not even convinced it'd be safe to share the road with blind drivers
and I've been blind my whole life. Heck, a disturbing number of suppoedly
sighted drivers may as well be blind. So I'm not convinced this is
feasible from a safety standpoint. And I
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
I would also, love to know how I can get a hold of that simulator program
and gloves as well.
Now I wonder if we could adapt it for we blind pilot love to be and for
flying the space shuttle as well?
Ron who if were sighted now know's that his career would have
I wouldn't even be scared if I have a crash. Lol.
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From: Arianna Sepulveda englishride...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Oh, God, that's all we need, blind
say...Ni!
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From: Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
I'd get it. I will not have to use the Cain, ha ha. But anyways, at first
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Well, sounds interesting. I want to get my fists on that gloves and more!
Maybe a good one would be for fighter jets and bombers.
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From: Ron Kolesar
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
I wouldn't even be scared if I have a crash. Lol.
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From: Arianna Sepulveda englishride...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Oh
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Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Well, sounds interesting. I want to get my fists on that gloves and more!
Maybe a good one would be for fighter jets and bombers.
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From: Ron
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
I don't think so. There just aren't enough of us out there, otherwise
ordinary assistive tech would be more reasonably priced. And as I said
earlier if during the trial period, and maybe even afterward, a blind
driver
Well I would if I were you.
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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
I don't even think we should be messing around with driving
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
You say that now but trust me, when it actually comes down to that you'll
feel different.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent
are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
I'd get it. I will not have to use the Cain, ha ha. But anyways
-
From: Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Well I would if I were you.
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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net
To: Gamers
@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
How could you predict that? Ok, it would be shocking, but I wouldn't cry.
If I have to smash a car door to save my life, I would.
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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2
: [Audyssey] driving blind
Well I would if I were you.
- Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson
bpeterson2...@cableone.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
I don't even think we should
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
That's the point. You're not me. I just think these overly optimistic
people are going to be in for a rude awakening. What's wrong with using
cheaper, safer alternatives that have been available for years to get
where we need to go?
We are the Knights who
Exactly. Everyone has a different opinion.
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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
That's the point. You're not me. I just think
list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
I don't know of anyone who wasn't scared during a car accident. You might
be able to act to save your life but trust me, you'd still feel afraid.
We are the Knights who say...Ni
Another excellent point.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: Orin orin8...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
The thing is, this blindy technology for cars
gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
In that case, why buy a 3D game when you already have a perfectly good 2D
side scroller?
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Shepherds are the best beasts!
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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net
, January 31, 2011 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Exactly. Everyone has a different opinion.
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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey
, January 31, 2011 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
I'd get it. I will not have to use the Cain, ha ha. But anyways, at
first it will be priced high, but it would gradually descend.
- Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson
bpeterson2...@cableone.net
To: Gamers Discussion list
englishride...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Oh, God, that's all we need, blind drivers! Lol holy crap, I'd be way
to scared to even think of doing this! I'd love to drive, probably
just like
list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
That's very true. Even if your the bravest man on earth and you battled
your enemy in real life and it was a close call and even if you didn't
even fear the enemy, you'd still feel a bit
Yet.
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Shepherds are the best beasts!
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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
I'm just saying let's not get our hopes up
I knew that they were working on something like this.
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From: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Yet.
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Shepherds are the best beasts
. Lol
loved that one, nearly crashing.
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From: Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
If you never drove before. You would be when behind the wheel
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Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
It's not the same thing at all. I just don't see why public transportation
isn't good enough anymore. It's safer and bound to be miles more
affordable.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Yet.
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Shepherds are the best beasts!
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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January
are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Actually, I've drove before with my father. Not actually driving
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 09:26:59AM -0700, Bryan Peterson wrote:
unless it's something directly in the engine that literally stops
the car from working, a sighted person can easily pull over to the
side of the road
[My Reply:]
I don't think it's too much of a problem. If in the city,
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Why can't they make a blind friendly car out of steel, silver and really
strong metal? In that way, if we crash, we won't have much of an issue.
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Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
That's precisely the point. Driving on a race track is one thing, but I'm
not entirely convinced they did use a blind guy or that there were even
obstacles. But what happens when they take this thing on the road
I still think it's too risky.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: Frost znvyyv...@gmail.com
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 09:26:59AM -0700, Bryan Peterson wrote
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:30:08AM -0700, Bryan Peterson wrote:
You say that now but trust me, when it actually comes down to that
you'll feel different.
[My Reply:]
At the time of the wreck, you don't feel a thing. It's one of
those blessings you can thank God for. It's surviving
Do you mean you don't feel the crash, but when your in hospital, you feel
the pain?
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From: Frost znvyyv...@gmail.com
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:30:08AM -0700
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:47:06AM -0700, Bryan Peterson wrote:
Can you imagine how expensive that would be?
[My Reply:]
Some satelite-grade electronics can be mass produced by the
shipload pretty cheaply, if it works as designed, and could be installed
in every new car that rolls out
of an issue.
- Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson
bpeterson2...@cableone.net
To: Charles Rivard woofer...@sbcglobal.net; Gamers Discussion
list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
It's not the same thing at all. I just don't see
didn't really drive for 10
minutes or to a destenation. Lol loved that one, nearly crashing.
- Original Message - From: Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
If you never
Too much to be worthwhile as far as I can see.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: Frost znvyyv...@gmail.com
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:47:06AM -0700
are the Knights who say...Ni!
- Original Message - From: Shiny protector
muhamme...@googlemail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
I'd get it. I will not have to use the Cain, ha ha
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Well, sounds interesting. I want to get my fists on that gloves and
more! Maybe a good one would be for fighter jets and bombers.
- Original Message - From: Ron
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 07:01:40PM -, Shiny protector wrote:
Do you mean you don't feel the crash, but when your in hospital, you
feel the pain?
[My Reply:]
No, my mother got rear-ended, had her car totalled, and broke
her ankle. She said she didn't feel or know a thing until she
.
I wouldn't even be scared if I have a crash. Lol.
- Original Message - From: Arianna Sepulveda
englishride...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Oh, God, that's all we need, blind drivers
@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
I would also, love to know how I can get a hold of that simulator
program and gloves as well.
Now I wonder if we could adapt it for we blind pilot love to be and
for flying the space shuttle as well?
Ron who
- From: Bryan Peterson
bpeterson2...@cableone.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
I'm not even convinced it'd be safe to share the road with blind
drivers and I've been blind my whole life. Heck
Oh for farks sake!
Nothing is 100 percent pefect.
security isn't, the net isn't we are not! computers are not!.
the world is not!
I agree. And whatever mechanical malfunctions may happen, my theory
is if you can't get it to work 100%, then don't give it to people. I
would personally
much
list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Why can't they make a blind friendly car out of steel, silver and really
strong metal? In that way, if we crash, we won't have much of an issue.
- Original Message -
From: Bryan Peterson
PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
That's precisely the point. Driving on a race track is one thing, but I'm
not entirely convinced they did use a blind guy or that there were even
obstacles. But what happens when they take this thing on the road and
someone gets hurt? Mark my words
I'm not even convinced it'd be safe to share the road with blind drivers and
I've been blind my whole life. Heck, a disturbing number of suppoedly
sighted drivers may as well be blind. So I'm not convinced this is feasible
from a safety standpoint. And I don't even want to speculate how much
Agreed. A race track is a race track, the road is a completely
different story... but isn't this a bit off-topic?
At 09:09 AM 30/01/2011, you wrote:
I'm not even convinced it'd be safe to share the road with blind
drivers and I've been blind my whole life. Heck, a disturbing number
of
I'm sure it is.
We are the Knights who say...Ni!
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From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Agreed. A race track is a race track
?
smiles,
Phil
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From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Agreed. A race track is a race track, the road is a completely different
story
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
I'm not even convinced it'd be safe to share the road with blind drivers
and I've been blind my whole life. Heck, a disturbing number of suppoedly
sighted drivers may as well be blind. So I'm not convinced this is
feasible from a safety standpoint. And I don't
AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Agreed. A race track is a race track, the road is a completely
different story... but isn't this a bit off-topic?
At 09:09 AM 30/01/2011, you wrote:
I'm not even convinced it'd be safe to share the road with blind
drivers and I've been blind my whole
list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Not feasible yet. And yet is the key word. If we can drive as safely as
a sighted driver who pays more attention to the text message he is typing
on his cell phone than to his driving, I'd say
look around, find a dose and take it to
heart.
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From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
The car is probably still more expensive than
...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 1:20 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
If that happens, an accident should be chalked up to a mechanical
malfunction rather than the fault of the driver
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
If that happens, an accident should be chalked up to a mechanical
malfunction rather than the fault of the driver. As for expense, my point
was that the first computers cost far more than those of today. It
happens
?
And the gloves?
smiles,
Phil
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From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] driving blind
Agreed. A race track is a race track, the road is a completely
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