[Audyssey] pipe2 debate
HI all I'm overexcited! I posted my money for pipe2 today. From south africa It will take approximately 2 weeks for the money order to reach the USA and from there it takes 8 days for WSREG to process the order. It feels like another eternity before I can have my unlock code! Please!please! don't view this in a bad light. I don't want to criticize any game developer at all. I just want to see if I am able to start a healthy, harmless debate successfully. There's nothing wrong with some healthy debate, is there? I mean, we are all grown ups, we can engage in debate sometimes as long as its not flaming. I'm making the following statement: Pipe2 is the game with the biggest replay value. There isn't a game with a greater replay value than pipe2! Well, I'm new to the accesible gaming industry. Pipe2 is my first game I'm purchasing. I have only played demos of the other retail games and I have played a lot of freebees. But what I have experienced in the demos of games and what I heard from other list members' experience, I can certainly forman opinion and make my statement. My reason behind my statement: pipe2 is the only game which offers random items. If you beat pipe and you play it again you might find other items in the trash cans, which might give you bigger bonus points or tools to aid you better. It might also contain items which is not so many or big than before, making the game more challenging. So you play pipe2, you win because you got a lot of welding kids and you got a lot of bug sprays and wriches, but this time you are only getting bonus points or time bonuses so this time it is more challenging to play the game because you have to crunch more spiders with your foot. You manage to win the game a second time. You play for a third time and yet you get more timebonuses, chips, cooldrink and less aid items so its more challenging. Now you manage to win the game a third time. The fourth time you play it you again get lots of aid items and so its nice for a change to get a lot of help after 2 challenging games. The same with all the bonus points like chips and cooldrink you pick up. the more bonus points you pick up, the more bragging rights you have and the easier you can reach the scoreboards. The less bonus points you pick up, the challenging the game also is because you have to play with more skill to gain bragging rights and reach the score boards. so there's no way you can get the same replay value from other games. I'm not saying other accessible games have no replay value. Me personally if I buy sod I will certainly after a few games get tired of fighting monsters. All right, aliens in the outback also have random items but these vaporise if you don't pick them up.so you have to be skilled enough to pick up a random itemin outback, but the trash cans in pipe2 make pipe2 the game with the biggest replay value because the items in the trash cans will not disappear. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] test
Ok all! no need for any reply. I received this message on both my mailboxes at work and at home. so it means there was something else wrong with that 2 messages I sent to the list. Hopefully it went through now. Sorry again for this test. - Original Message - From: Nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blind gaming gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 6:13 AM Subject: [Audyssey] test Hi all Sorry for this test.Luckily my problem is not as big as I suspected! I still receive mail from this list to my home address, but posts I send to the list from my home address doesn't go through. NO need for everyone to reply. If thomas or raul or any other one person can reply that I just can find out where the problem lies. thanks ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] pipe2 debate
don't forget that if you loose a ife or hit your thumb youloose points as well, I think. I have not read the manual in a while. - Original Message - From: Nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: blind gaming gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 10:18 AM Subject: [Audyssey] pipe2 debate HI all I'm overexcited! I posted my money for pipe2 today. From south africa It will take approximately 2 weeks for the money order to reach the USA and from there it takes 8 days for WSREG to process the order. It feels like another eternity before I can have my unlock code! Please!please! don't view this in a bad light. I don't want to criticize any game developer at all. I just want to see if I am able to start a healthy, harmless debate successfully. There's nothing wrong with some healthy debate, is there? I mean, we are all grown ups, we can engage in debate sometimes as long as its not flaming. I'm making the following statement: Pipe2 is the game with the biggest replay value. There isn't a game with a greater replay value than pipe2! Well, I'm new to the accesible gaming industry. Pipe2 is my first game I'm purchasing. I have only played demos of the other retail games and I have played a lot of freebees. But what I have experienced in the demos of games and what I heard from other list members' experience, I can certainly forman opinion and make my statement. My reason behind my statement: pipe2 is the only game which offers random items. If you beat pipe and you play it again you might find other items in the trash cans, which might give you bigger bonus points or tools to aid you better. It might also contain items which is not so many or big than before, making the game more challenging. So you play pipe2, you win because you got a lot of welding kids and you got a lot of bug sprays and wriches, but this time you are only getting bonus points or time bonuses so this time it is more challenging to play the game because you have to crunch more spiders with your foot. You manage to win the game a second time. You play for a third time and yet you get more timebonuses, chips, cooldrink and less aid items so its more challenging. Now you manage to win the game a third time. The fourth time you play it you again get lots of aid items and so its nice for a change to get a lot of help after 2 challenging games. The same with all the bonus points like chips and cooldrink you pick up. the more bonus points you pick up, the more bragging rights you have and the easier you can reach the scoreboards. The less bonus points you pick up, the challenging the game also is because you have to play with more skill to gain bragging rights and reach the score boards. so there's no way you can get the same replay value from other games. I'm not saying other accessible games have no replay value. Me personally if I buy sod I will certainly after a few games get tired of fighting monsters. All right, aliens in the outback also have random items but these vaporise if you don't pick them up.so you have to be skilled enough to pick up a random itemin outback, but the trash cans in pipe2 make pipe2 the game with the biggest replay value because the items in the trash cans will not disappear. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] pipe2 debate
I don't know if I can agree with that. It's no knock against bsc, but pipe 2 doesn't have all that much replay value. I own the game, and I played it a few times, beat it, got on the boards, and there wasn't much else to do. To me, the game with the best replay value right now is sryth. Content is being added on a regular basis, and it keeps people coming back. There are no other games out there that are like this. I know sryth isn't necisarily an accessible game, but. We all seem to play it so I'm counting it. Of all the accessible games I own, there aren't any that I really want to play again after I beat. I'm hoping that the release of judgment day gives the replay value of other stuff a run for it's money. In judgment day there will be a lot of unlockable minigames and other content which you will have to play the game multiple times to earn. Pipe 2 or as a matter of fact any other game has this as far as I can tell. Liam -Original Message- From: Nicol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:18 PM To: blind gaming Subject: [Audyssey] pipe2 debate HI all I'm overexcited! I posted my money for pipe2 today. From south africa It will take approximately 2 weeks for the money order to reach the USA and from there it takes 8 days for WSREG to process the order. It feels like another eternity before I can have my unlock code! Please!please! don't view this in a bad light. I don't want to criticize any game developer at all. I just want to see if I am able to start a healthy, harmless debate successfully. There's nothing wrong with some healthy debate, is there? I mean, we are all grown ups, we can engage in debate sometimes as long as its not flaming. I'm making the following statement: Pipe2 is the game with the biggest replay value. There isn't a game with a greater replay value than pipe2! Well, I'm new to the accesible gaming industry. Pipe2 is my first game I'm purchasing. I have only played demos of the other retail games and I have played a lot of freebees. But what I have experienced in the demos of games and what I heard from other list members' experience, I can certainly forman opinion and make my statement. My reason behind my statement: pipe2 is the only game which offers random items. If you beat pipe and you play it again you might find other items in the trash cans, which might give you bigger bonus points or tools to aid you better. It might also contain items which is not so many or big than before, making the game more challenging. So you play pipe2, you win because you got a lot of welding kids and you got a lot of bug sprays and wriches, but this time you are only getting bonus points or time bonuses so this time it is more challenging to play the game because you have to crunch more spiders with your foot. You manage to win the game a second time. You play for a third time and yet you get more timebonuses, chips, cooldrink and less aid items so its more challenging. Now you manage to win the game a third time. The fourth time you play it you again get lots of aid items and so its nice for a change to get a lot of help after 2 challenging games. The same with all the bonus points like chips and cooldrink you pick up. the more bonus points you pick up, the more bragging rights you have and the easier you can reach the scoreboards. The less bonus points you pick up, the challenging the game also is because you have to play with more skill to gain bragging rights and reach the score boards. so there's no way you can get the same replay value from other games. I'm not saying other accessible games have no replay value. Me personally if I buy sod I will certainly after a few games get tired of fighting monsters. All right, aliens in the outback also have random items but these vaporise if you don't pick them up.so you have to be skilled enough to pick up a random itemin outback, but the trash cans in pipe2 make pipe2 the game with the biggest replay value because the items in the trash cans will not disappear. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. __ NOD32 1.1659 (20060713) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] pipe2 debate
Actually it is randum and you actually get nothing in the bonus trash cans in insain and normal. - Original Message - From: Liam Erven [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] pipe2 debate I don't know if I can agree with that. It's no knock against bsc, but pipe 2 doesn't have all that much replay value. I own the game, and I played it a few times, beat it, got on the boards, and there wasn't much else to do. To me, the game with the best replay value right now is sryth. Content is being added on a regular basis, and it keeps people coming back. There are no other games out there that are like this. I know sryth isn't necisarily an accessible game, but. We all seem to play it so I'm counting it. Of all the accessible games I own, there aren't any that I really want to play again after I beat. I'm hoping that the release of judgment day gives the replay value of other stuff a run for it's money. In judgment day there will be a lot of unlockable minigames and other content which you will have to play the game multiple times to earn. Pipe 2 or as a matter of fact any other game has this as far as I can tell. Liam -Original Message- From: Nicol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 12:18 PM To: blind gaming Subject: [Audyssey] pipe2 debate HI all I'm overexcited! I posted my money for pipe2 today. From south africa It will take approximately 2 weeks for the money order to reach the USA and from there it takes 8 days for WSREG to process the order. It feels like another eternity before I can have my unlock code! Please!please! don't view this in a bad light. I don't want to criticize any game developer at all. I just want to see if I am able to start a healthy, harmless debate successfully. There's nothing wrong with some healthy debate, is there? I mean, we are all grown ups, we can engage in debate sometimes as long as its not flaming. I'm making the following statement: Pipe2 is the game with the biggest replay value. There isn't a game with a greater replay value than pipe2! Well, I'm new to the accesible gaming industry. Pipe2 is my first game I'm purchasing. I have only played demos of the other retail games and I have played a lot of freebees. But what I have experienced in the demos of games and what I heard from other list members' experience, I can certainly forman opinion and make my statement. My reason behind my statement: pipe2 is the only game which offers random items. If you beat pipe and you play it again you might find other items in the trash cans, which might give you bigger bonus points or tools to aid you better. It might also contain items which is not so many or big than before, making the game more challenging. So you play pipe2, you win because you got a lot of welding kids and you got a lot of bug sprays and wriches, but this time you are only getting bonus points or time bonuses so this time it is more challenging to play the game because you have to crunch more spiders with your foot. You manage to win the game a second time. You play for a third time and yet you get more timebonuses, chips, cooldrink and less aid items so its more challenging. Now you manage to win the game a third time. The fourth time you play it you again get lots of aid items and so its nice for a change to get a lot of help after 2 challenging games. The same with all the bonus points like chips and cooldrink you pick up. the more bonus points you pick up, the more bragging rights you have and the easier you can reach the scoreboards. The less bonus points you pick up, the challenging the game also is because you have to play with more skill to gain bragging rights and reach the score boards. so there's no way you can get the same replay value from other games. I'm not saying other accessible games have no replay value. Me personally if I buy sod I will certainly after a few games get tired of fighting monsters. All right, aliens in the outback also have random items but these vaporise if you don't pick them up.so you have to be skilled enough to pick up a random itemin outback, but the trash cans in pipe2 make pipe2 the game with the biggest replay value because the items in the trash cans will not disappear. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. __ NOD32 1.1659 (20060713) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit
Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic
Hi, Yeah, Jaws 4 definately won't cut it. You should at least have Jaws 6 or 7 for Visual Studio 2005 or Window Eyes 5.0 or better. I hear Window Eyes 6 beta 1 has some improvements with 2005 so it is possible Jaws 8 beta does as well. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Thomas, Yeah, not only don't I have the system requirements, but after I said that maybe I should check out VB 2005 I remembered that I bet that the version of JFW that I am running 4.02 probably will not work with anything newer than VB6. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic
Hi Ron, Assuming you have the proper training materials you should be able to pick up either C#, (C-Sharp,) or VB.NET rather quickly using the Express compilers from Microsoft. I highly recommend the beginner books like Learning VB.NET, Learning C#.NET, and the In a Nutshell series from O'reilly because they start you out from a absolutely newby and talk you through very simple basic programs, explaining everything, and work your way up to more complex things. Your first program might be a simple text program that displays Hello World or your name, and by chapter 13 or so you will be designing Windows forms and Windows based applications. In the chapters from 1 to 13 they don't consentrate on complex things but discuss each concept such what is a variable, what is a class, what is an object, how to use loops, if statements, perform math operations, and so on. The time it takes depends on how fast you grasp each chapter and concept, and how fast you go through the training materials. I'd say on average 6 months to a year before you can really right your first game like a space invaders shoot-m-up or so. For this effort I really should write a free, open source, shoot-m-up game in C#.NET or VB.NET and post it on USA Games where people could have something to look at. Ron Schamerhorn wrote: Greetings I was just wondering if either express editions of C# or VB# would be okay for a non-programmer such as myself. For playing around with and what sort of learning curve, in time and such would I be looking at? I'm actually quite interested in learning how to program. Ron ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
