Re: [Audyssey] problem with astrogalaxy

2014-11-15 Thread David Bartling
Ok, well, I did notice there were clickable links that would take me
to other places. The began with index?actiod=
Then it gave like an ID. Basically, it was the end of the url after
the com/ but in visible form. I couldn't find the moon one but I found
like nepn8ne and a bunch of uranus stuff.

On 11/14/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 The moon is on the system map on the right, it's not a link it's a clickable

 hotspot on the page in that textual list of system objects. If the
 braillenote can emulate mouse clicks, do a double click on the text that
 says the moon

 If you can't emulate mouse clicks streight off and the braillenote is tied
 just to standard sorts of web controls like links there might be a problem
 here. Unfortunately those sorts of hotspots are fairly common in web games,

 I can think of several in core exiles, and puppet nightmares is full of
 them.

 Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad!
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 Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 2:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with astrogalaxy


 Its the one where you convert the hydrogen to fuel (done) then try to
 go to the moon. If I click system (with javascript enabled on the
 braillenote), it says the information but doesn't have links that I
 can click and tell it where to go. I'm suposed to go the moon. I
 realize the the bn is not the best browser, but so far, its worked.

 On 11/14/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi David.

 I'm afraid I don't recall which step was step five, if you let me know
 what

 you need to do I can possibly help.

 All the best,

 Dark.
 Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad!
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 From: David Bartling dbartling...@gmail.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with astrogalaxy


 How do I do step 5 in the tutorial?

 On 11/13/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi David.

 If you can't find the empty slot with the braillenote, then just going
 to
 modules from cargo bayCargo and hitting the install link above the
 one

 you

 want should do it. I don't think it matters what slot on your ship you
 install what into so long as it is there.

 All the best,

 Dark.
 Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad!
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 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with astrogalaxy


 uhi
 I am not using nvda, I am using a braillenote.

 On 11/12/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 Hi Chris.

 You don't have to exactly! obey everything, for example you can
 install
 the modules so long as you have the right ones on your ship at each
 step,
 and the steps are in order, though this will take installing and
 uninstalling and also seling stuff.

 For example if one step is to deinstall one module and another is to
 install

 another, you can't install one without doing the check that you've
 uninstalled the first one.

 This does mean your pretty much swapping out modules and obeying the
 tutorial rather than playing sensibly, but hay it's an educationn in
 how!

 to

 play, not intended as a perfect start.

 I just look forward to the navigation being fixed, so then we can
 participate fully in the game, the idea of flying out to a literally
 unknown

 star is really nice.

 Beware the grue!

 Dark.


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[Audyssey] trouble in astro galaxy

2014-11-15 Thread dark
I must confess sinse I finished the tutorial I'm a bit disappointed. I flew 
around and did some planetary missions, while I sent one ship off to explore an 
unknown signal, however when I got there there was nothing to do, nothing to 
explore or on the surface, just an object that said the event is stable I 
assume you need some equipment for this but goodness knows what. 

With my other ship, after completing some planetary missions I decided to try 
something  new and tried following a distress signal with a cargo of medicines, 
electronics etc. It would take my ship 3 hours to get there so I set it running 
and went to bed, however when I got up this morning and found my ship was there 
the sos signal had gone from the navigation map, zip, nada, a big fat waste of 
fuel, indeed my ship seemed to be floating in deep space aimlessly.

If these signals expire after a while, well why not tell people that?

I then send my other ship off to a combat mission to be told you need 5 
power For goodness sake, another waste of fuel and time.  Couldn't the game 
have said that before! I spent the dam fuel getting out there?

this is quite frustrating! especially sinse I so much looked forward to 
exploring the galaxy.

I would ask on the Astro galaxy forum, but annoyingly   it isn't possible to 
register without going through the stupid capture.

Anyone got any suggestions of what I'm doing wrong here or what I missed?
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Re: [Audyssey] problem with astrogalaxy

2014-11-15 Thread dark
Those links are the inaccessible image ones, you need to look for the text 
hotspots, they're on the right of the system page, there is a list of all 
the planets and objects, eg, earth, moon, mars, asteroid belt etc, with the 
distance away they are under each. For example you should see Earth and 
under that 0 Au sinse that is where you are now.


I'm afraid if your not getting those then you probably do need a better 
browser that will give you access to all the information on the game's 
pages. Indeed, given that the hotspots are just a pretty standard textual 
list I'm rather worried by the fact that they're not displaying at all on 
the braillenote, I wonder how much else you've missed on the internet if 
that is the case.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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From: David Bartling dbartling...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with astrogalaxy



Ok, well, I did notice there were clickable links that would take me
to other places. The began with index?actiod=
Then it gave like an ID. Basically, it was the end of the url after
the com/ but in visible form. I couldn't find the moon one but I found
like nepn8ne and a bunch of uranus stuff.

On 11/14/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
The moon is on the system map on the right, it's not a link it's a 
clickable


hotspot on the page in that textual list of system objects. If the
braillenote can emulate mouse clicks, do a double click on the text that
says the moon

If you can't emulate mouse clicks streight off and the braillenote is 
tied
just to standard sorts of web controls like links there might be a 
problem
here. Unfortunately those sorts of hotspots are fairly common in web 
games,


I can think of several in core exiles, and puppet nightmares is full of
them.

Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad!
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From: David Bartling dbartling...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with astrogalaxy



Its the one where you convert the hydrogen to fuel (done) then try to
go to the moon. If I click system (with javascript enabled on the
braillenote), it says the information but doesn't have links that I
can click and tell it where to go. I'm suposed to go the moon. I
realize the the bn is not the best browser, but so far, its worked.

On 11/14/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

Hi David.

I'm afraid I don't recall which step was step five, if you let me know
what

you need to do I can possibly help.

All the best,

Dark.
Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad!
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From: David Bartling dbartling...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with astrogalaxy



How do I do step 5 in the tutorial?

On 11/13/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

Hi David.

If you can't find the empty slot with the braillenote, then just 
going

to
modules from cargo bayCargo and hitting the install link above the
one

you

want should do it. I don't think it matters what slot on your ship 
you

install what into so long as it is there.

All the best,

Dark.
Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad!
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From: David Bartling dbartling...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] problem with astrogalaxy



uhi
I am not using nvda, I am using a braillenote.

On 11/12/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

Hi Chris.

You don't have to exactly! obey everything, for example you can
install
the modules so long as you have the right ones on your ship at each
step,
and the steps are in order, though this will take installing and
uninstalling and also seling stuff.

For example if one step is to deinstall one module and another is 
to

install

another, you can't install one without doing the check that you've
uninstalled the first one.

This does mean your pretty much swapping out modules and obeying 
the
tutorial rather than playing sensibly, but hay it's an educationn 
in

how!

to

play, not intended as a perfect start.

I just look forward to the navigation being fixed, so then we can
participate fully in the game, the idea of flying out to a 
literally

unknown

star is really nice.

Beware the grue!

Dark.


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[Audyssey] clearing the air: re: my saying

2014-11-15 Thread Nicol
HI dark and all
I am sorry if I stepped on people's toes.
I did not mean to say that apple devices is the only ones that will keep
people entertained.
I just wanted to make a new saying from the well-known saying about apples.
I just thought it would be cool if I revamp the saying.
I hope the air is clear.\
Bfn
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Re: [Audyssey] clearing the air: re: my saying

2014-11-15 Thread Jacob Kruger
Nicol, from my side, I by no means took any offense relating to the mention 
of apple devices, but, the saying itself just brought up memories of 
versions of it, etc...smile


Didn't mean to make it sound in any way like I have a problem with 
iThings/iUnits either - just not my current cup of tea as such.


Stay well

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Skype: BlindZA
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To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 6:27 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] clearing the air: re: my saying



HI dark and all
I am sorry if I stepped on people's toes.
I did not mean to say that apple devices is the only ones that will keep
people entertained.
I just wanted to make a new saying from the well-known saying about 
apples.

I just thought it would be cool if I revamp the saying.
I hope the air is clear.\
Bfn
Nicol


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Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me

2014-11-15 Thread Jacob Kruger
From my side, one of the best things about modern technology is information 
sharing - wikipedia and google/search engines etc. - but, pretty much 
standard behaviour for humans is to take something, and misuse/abuse 
it...smile


In terms of forms of game-playing, etc., one thing know sighted golfers can 
use this side is a sort of golf course specific, miniature form of GPS 
system - not even sure if it actually uses GPS receivers, or just uses 
directional masts on the golf courses themselves, but, they can carry around 
a small device that informs them that from their current position, taking 
current weather conditions into account, they should probably use a certain 
club, and hit the ball in a specific direction, etc. etc. - while I suppose 
'true' golfers might not like/appreciate something like that, think the 
theory is that it can be used by people still developing golf skills to in 
fact develop them - technology impregnating yet another type of activity 
that some people would have thought it would be sort of the opposite 
of...smile


Stay well

Jacob Kruger
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From: dark d...@xgam.org

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me



Hi Jacob.

I do like Cyberkynetic :D.

I suppose for me growing up in the 80's technology is sort of a natural 
extention of what was being done, after all I was playing games on the 
Atari 2600 when I was three or four, and I've always done my reading by 
audio if I could.


Actually, I recently found out that the first compact disk became 
available to the public in Germany on quite literally the day I was born, 
august 17th 1982, which, given how much of a part listening to music and 
radio plays, audio books and computer games have made in my life is quite 
a coincidence.


What I am concerned about at the moment isn't so much the technology in 
and of itself, but the technology as a form of purely social control by 
larger and larger coorporations, and the world of exchanging information 
and socialization online actually becoming both depersonalized and less 
free, especially compared to the trends in the 90's. Indeed, while 
technology plays a part in social change and in the world we live in I am 
coming to the conclusion that it is as much how that technology is 
introduced to society, what levels of control it involves and how people 
react to that technology that is more of a factor.


For example, we have the technology right now in the world to setup a self 
sufficient luna or martian colony. hydroponics, rocketry, communications, 
power generation through self renewing means, it's all there, however that 
doesn't mean it's going to happen, sinse economically and cooperatively 
it's just not workable at the moment, (it doesn't make enough prophet for 
the fat cats).


to bring this back to gaming, I actually also wonder if we'll see computer 
games and technological gaming devices on a smaller scale once we've 
removed the idea of games as purely comperized actions. We've already got 
tablets with gyros etc, but wouldn't it be cool to have a talking football 
that could tell you the direction and distance of the goal, and measure 
how much force you needed to kick it? Or how about a gun com controller 
for an fps game with real recoil? and remember the chat we had about voice 
control?


Or how about a talking monopoly board, where the peaces track where you 
can move them and will speak their space, including a computer opponent 
who's peaces you could move physically but who's moves were tracked by the 
board's internal engine.


I actually hope in a way the emphasis on social media, tablets and other 
devices falls off sinse technologically with the speed of information 
processing and the ability to monitor human action there are lots of 
interesting devices that could make rrecreational activities quite a lot 
of fun.


Beware the grue!

DArk.

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Re: [Audyssey] clearing the air: re: my saying

2014-11-15 Thread dark

Mmm, nicol, who is offended?

I just questioned your use of the saying in this context, that is not being 
offended, that is expressing a thought with a view to starting a discussion, 
this is a discussion list after all.


If I was! offended, well I'd definitely let you know :D.

All the best,

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Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me

2014-11-15 Thread dark

Hi Jacob.

Access to information is a good point, though one interesting thing I've 
noticed is that, perhaps partly because of those abuses of power you 
mention, people do not believe technological information sharing is 
legitimate.


For example,my mum was recently complaining over the fact that instead of 
primary school children being given physical story books, they were directed 
to the books online to read with their computers, tablets etc. We're not 
talking about blind or vi children here, just sighted children in normal 
schools of about 5 or 6.


My mum believed that this was bad, that the kids were missing out and that 
it would discourage say a parent reading the story book together with their 
child. I however disagreed, (indeed a friend of mine already reads to his 
daughter off his kindle). Sinse just because you change the mode of 
outputting the information, electronically as apposed to a book that doesn't 
change a person's relationship to that information. yes, bad parents will 
probably say go to your room and read your school books on your computer 
and don't bother me but how is this different to bad parents saying the 
same of a physical book?


I also agree Wikipedia is great, particularly if you just want some random 
information, although I do one legitimate concern is that when information 
is so readily available, will people's skills at assimilating, remembering 
and drawing conclusions from that informationn, though interestingly enough 
this is an area where computer games, especially the complex ones like King 
of Dragon pass can help as effectively a mental workout for the information 
processing and memorization centers of the brain, provided of course the 
games are designed so as to be challenging rather than just repetition.


I do remember hearing something about the Golf thing you mention, though one 
quite interesting possible use would be blind accessible golf, sinse if you 
couldget not only course information but positional information about the 
ball and your stick, a blind person could play golf quite efficiently with 
the same informational advantages of someone with working eyeballs.


Indeed, I wonder if in the future we'll see similar access to a number of 
sports, although having the word access in front will mean such things 
don't get developed that soon.


I also wonder if eventually we'll start to see the development of new 
sports, especially with the analogue control methods. I already know there 
are world championships of dance dance revolution, though.


Beware the Grue!

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Re: [Audyssey] Audio Defence

2014-11-15 Thread Teresa Cochran
Yes, it does not disappoint. I knew they would come through and fix it for us 
iPod users, etc. :)

Teresa 

Winging its way from my iPod

 On Nov 14, 2014, at 11:21 PM, Appleman appleman310...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
  A short while ago, I played the updated version of “Audio Defence, Zombie 
 Arena” and I am suitably impressed. I have now completed all the challenges 
 and achieved a high score in endless mode. There are 3 game centre 
 leaderboards now, which is cool. I hope those of you who were experiencing 
 difficulty with this game on iPods are now able to enjoy this game as much as 
 I do.
 
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[Audyssey] How Do You Move To the Next Level? Was Re: Audio Defence

2014-11-15 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, guys,

I think I'm missing something here. To move to the next level of a challenge, I 
do this: double-tap the back button, double-tap the play button, double-tap the 
challenge button, double-tap the chapter button, double-tap the level button, 
double-tap the play button. I very much hope I'm missing something obvious. :) 
Anyone have ideas?

Thanks,
Teresa
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Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me

2014-11-15 Thread Jacob Kruger
With regards to people primarily using electronic information/reading 
sources, while I especially appreciate it nowadays, in the old days - a long 
time ago, one of my favourite activities was to go to an old, large library, 
and browse around the shelves - maybe it was something to do with the 
atmosphere of a library, literally browsing shelves of books, and coming 
across something where the title would catch your eye, and you'd read the 
blurb, and end up discovering a new author, all by yourself, or something, 
but, suppose book discussion clubs are somewhat similar, even if reading 
books in electronic formats nowadays, but, the one other thing have noticed 
with regards to some sighted children nowadays is they'd rather listen to 
the audio version of a book than try actually reading the story themselves - 
and that, I don't necessarily think is a good thing in the long run - I was 
one of those guys who before getting involved in most new activities, would 
pop round library, and do my own forms of research, and, much as I find it 
extremely useful/helpful, etc., maybe making it too easy to do quick bits of 
research isn't the best thing overall since it means people get too used to 
just accepting the first form of an answer they come across...smile


I also, still, sort of refuse to use a word, in any context, spoken or not, 
that I can't spell, and that don't at least have a basic concept of it's 
meaning, in the relevant context, but anyway...whereas nowadays, lots of 
people are unable to, off-hand, spell the longer words they use on a regular 
basis when speaking, and if you ask them if they know the origin, or 
original meaning of a term that might nowadays get used often enough in 
media, or as a form of slang term, etc., in a way that sort of ignores it's 
origin/concept/meaning, they get confused that you're even asking them about 
that, but anyway - almost my own little form of a illiteracy rant, but 
anyway...LOL!


And, again, in terms of gaming, etc., yes, there are quite a few forms of 
smartphone games that use acceleration sensors in phones to offer physical 
interaction, etc., like blind ping pong for the android platform etc. as 
well, as well as another form of experimental version of blind marco polo 
using android phones where the idea was to let multiple players play the 
same game, against each other, using their android phones, in an environment 
of something like a football field, etc. - also similar to sort of global 
treasure cacheing that some guys take part in where they'll stash their own 
little packages in odd places, and try sharing clues, or something like GPS 
coordinates on bulletin boards, and think the sort of rule is that if you 
find/encounter something like that, you have to leave your own package 
before taking the other one, or something, but anyway.


I know some blindie golfers who just keep the right caddie with them, but, 
something like this might let them play more independently - or fall in more 
water features...smile


And, I've already used smartphone GPS to navigate parts of outdoor 
environments, like campsites - was still trying to persuade some local guys 
to set up a form of outdoors, blindie, obstacle course using something like 
this at one stage.


And, also know of a person who used something similar to hike most of the 
appalachian trail on his own.


Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
...Roger Wilco wants to welcome you, to the space janitor's closet...

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Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me



Hi Jacob.

Access to information is a good point, though one interesting thing I've 
noticed is that, perhaps partly because of those abuses of power you 
mention, people do not believe technological information sharing is 
legitimate.


For example,my mum was recently complaining over the fact that instead of 
primary school children being given physical story books, they were 
directed to the books online to read with their computers, tablets etc. 
We're not talking about blind or vi children here, just sighted children 
in normal schools of about 5 or 6.


My mum believed that this was bad, that the kids were missing out and that 
it would discourage say a parent reading the story book together with 
their child. I however disagreed, (indeed a friend of mine already reads 
to his daughter off his kindle). Sinse just because you change the mode of 
outputting the information, electronically as apposed to a book that 
doesn't change a person's relationship to that information. yes, bad 
parents will probably say go to your room and read your school books on 
your computer and don't bother me but how is this different to bad 
parents saying the same of a physical book?


I also agree Wikipedia is great, particularly if you just want some random 
information, 

Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me

2014-11-15 Thread Jacob Kruger
Oh yes, and other issue with playing golf all by ourselves would be finding 
the ball again - if you hadn't managed a hole in one...smile


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Re: [Audyssey] How Do You Move To the Next Level? Was Re: Audio Defence

2014-11-15 Thread Paul Lemm
Hi Teresa,

I'm playing it on an iPhone so not sure if its quite the same, but once
you've finished a challenge near the bottom of the screen you have your
statistics  kills accuracy  time, then just  below that there is a button
that  takes you to the challenge selection , but if you flick right it
should take you  to a button labelled next challenge and clicking this
should take you straight into the next challenge.  

Hope this helps
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Cochran
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 7:58 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] How Do You Move To the Next Level? Was Re: Audio Defence

Hi, guys,

I think I'm missing something here. To move to the next level of a
challenge, I do this: double-tap the back button, double-tap the play
button, double-tap the challenge button, double-tap the chapter button,
double-tap the level button, double-tap the play button. I very much hope
I'm missing something obvious. :) Anyone have ideas?

Thanks,
Teresa
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Re: [Audyssey] clearing the air: re: my saying

2014-11-15 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Nicol,

In my opinion no apologies are necessary. I certainly wasn't offended
by your use of the saying, and nor did I take it to mean that Apple
devices were the only ones to keep someone entertained. In short,
someone is making a big deal out of nothing. So no need to clear the
air, but if it makes you feel better I consider the air cleared.

Cheers!


On 11/15/14, Nicol nicoljaco...@telkomsa.net wrote:
 HI dark and all
 I am sorry if I stepped on people's toes.
 I did not mean to say that apple devices is the only ones that will keep
 people entertained.
 I just wanted to make a new saying from the well-known saying about apples.
 I just thought it would be cool if I revamp the saying.
 I hope the air is clear.\
 Bfn
 Nicol


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Re: [Audyssey] How Do You Move To the Next Level? Was Re: Audio Defence

2014-11-15 Thread dark

Hi Teresa.

The way challenges work, is they're devided into arenas. For example the 
first arena is the training arena and it has 5 challenges, so to get to the 
challenges you need to tap the challenge button (not the endless button or 
the challenge info button), flick to the arena you want and tap it, then 
flick through the challenges within that arena.


Also if you have hints turned on you'll be told how many stars you've earned 
in each challenge.


When you finish a challenge, there are buttons at the bottom of the screen 
after the information on how well you've done to retry or play the next.


Hth.

All the best,

Dark.
Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad!
- Original Message - 
From: Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com

To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 7:58 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] How Do You Move To the Next Level? Was Re: Audio Defence



Hi, guys,

I think I'm missing something here. To move to the next level of a 
challenge, I do this: double-tap the back button, double-tap the play 
button, double-tap the challenge button, double-tap the chapter button, 
double-tap the level button, double-tap the play button. I very much hope 
I'm missing something obvious. :) Anyone have ideas?


Thanks,
Teresa
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Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me

2014-11-15 Thread dark

Hi jacob.

Lets not get back into the spelling discussion otherwise we'll have certain 
list members riding their high horses.


Regarding libraries and atmosphere,  I do take the point on browsing and on 
the environment though this is probably one area where we'll see a fall back 
in net use, or perhaps see libraries which remain electronic but still exist 
for the reading promotion or community aspects in the future, indeed a 
friend of mine who works as a librarian at the moment says a large part of 
her job is social, which likely will remain even if the sources for 
information are electronic. this is one area where  think obsessions with 
everything online might fall off in the next while as people realize the 
need for the space even if the information differs.


Regarding the meaning and derivation of words at least, I see text speak as 
far more problematic in this area more than simply having the information, 
which is one reason i prefer e-mail to text myself. My concern actually with 
a lot of text speak isn't so much whether people use words without thinking 
of them as whether people know as many words to use if all conversations are 
of the level ur mi bff coswe duz gud stuff


Regarding satnavs and electronic sports, satnavs are a major improvement in 
access technology generally and I can well imagine people hiking with them. 
What I am wondering in game terms though is if electronic devices will make 
their way into more games than currently exist, particularly ones requiring 
exercise and as you said, analogue movement.


Btw, what is marco polo? that's one term I don't know, it always is a bit 
confusing why people splashing in pools or whatever on the Simpsons and 
other american programs start shouting Marco Polo. (I know your not American 
but obviously you know the term in this case). To me Marco Polo was an 
explorer who traveled across China (possibly accompanied by Doctor who):D.


All the best,

Dark.
Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad!
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me


With regards to people primarily using electronic information/reading 
sources, while I especially appreciate it nowadays, in the old days - a 
long time ago, one of my favourite activities was to go to an old, large 
library, and browse around the shelves - maybe it was something to do with 
the atmosphere of a library, literally browsing shelves of books, and 
coming across something where the title would catch your eye, and you'd 
read the blurb, and end up discovering a new author, all by yourself, or 
something, but, suppose book discussion clubs are somewhat similar, even 
if reading books in electronic formats nowadays, but, the one other thing 
have noticed with regards to some sighted children nowadays is they'd 
rather listen to the audio version of a book than try actually reading the 
story themselves - and that, I don't necessarily think is a good thing in 
the long run - I was one of those guys who before getting involved in most 
new activities, would pop round library, and do my own forms of research, 
and, much as I find it extremely useful/helpful, etc., maybe making it too 
easy to do quick bits of research isn't the best thing overall since it 
means people get too used to just accepting the first form of an answer 
they come across...smile


I also, still, sort of refuse to use a word, in any context, spoken or 
not, that I can't spell, and that don't at least have a basic concept of 
it's meaning, in the relevant context, but anyway...whereas nowadays, lots 
of people are unable to, off-hand, spell the longer words they use on a 
regular basis when speaking, and if you ask them if they know the origin, 
or original meaning of a term that might nowadays get used often enough in 
media, or as a form of slang term, etc., in a way that sort of ignores 
it's origin/concept/meaning, they get confused that you're even asking 
them about that, but anyway - almost my own little form of a illiteracy 
rant, but anyway...LOL!


And, again, in terms of gaming, etc., yes, there are quite a few forms of 
smartphone games that use acceleration sensors in phones to offer physical 
interaction, etc., like blind ping pong for the android platform etc. as 
well, as well as another form of experimental version of blind marco polo 
using android phones where the idea was to let multiple players play the 
same game, against each other, using their android phones, in an 
environment of something like a football field, etc. - also similar to 
sort of global treasure cacheing that some guys take part in where they'll 
stash their own little packages in odd places, and try sharing clues, or 
something like GPS coordinates on bulletin boards, and think the sort of 
rule is that if you find/encounter something like 

Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me

2014-11-15 Thread dark

Hi jacob.

This is where electronics could help sinse if the ball had some sort of 
sensor the software in your electronic device could tell you where it was, 
as well as your own position relative to the hole.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad!
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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a well-known saying revamped by me


Oh yes, and other issue with playing golf all by ourselves would be 
finding the ball again - if you hadn't managed a hole in one...smile


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Re: [Audyssey] How Do You Move To the Next Level? Was Re: Audio Defence

2014-11-15 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks guys. I fear I may have run into another version of the same bug. The 
statistics and kills are at the extreme bottom of my screen, and if I do a 
three-finger-page-down, it just says rows 4 to 8 of 8 and goes no further. So 
I have to go to the next challenge the long way, which I described in my first 
message. Time to report this one, too.

Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod

 On Nov 15, 2014, at 11:11 PM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
 
 Hi Teresa.
 
 The way challenges work, is they're devided into arenas. For example the 
 first arena is the training arena and it has 5 challenges, so to get to the 
 challenges you need to tap the challenge button (not the endless button or 
 the challenge info button), flick to the arena you want and tap it, then 
 flick through the challenges within that arena.
 
 Also if you have hints turned on you'll be told how many stars you've earned 
 in each challenge.
 
 When you finish a challenge, there are buttons at the bottom of the screen 
 after the information on how well you've done to retry or play the next.
 
 Hth.
 
 All the best,
 
 Dark.
 Take them to the refirbished chamber that was once bad!
 - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran 
 vegaspipistre...@gmail.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 7:58 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] How Do You Move To the Next Level? Was Re: Audio Defence
 
 
 Hi, guys,
 
 I think I'm missing something here. To move to the next level of a 
 challenge, I do this: double-tap the back button, double-tap the play 
 button, double-tap the challenge button, double-tap the chapter button, 
 double-tap the level button, double-tap the play button. I very much hope 
 I'm missing something obvious. :) Anyone have ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
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