date:20150812

You don't have to be a developer to contribute files - you just have to be 
willing to spend some time, potentially help out with a bit of research, and 
send in whatever installers you've got that we don't. Even if you don't have 
any installers, another person whose willing to help out would be great - 
more hands makes work go faster, and more opinions makes everything more 
fun.

--
From: Paul Lemm paul.lem...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 18:20
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

Hi John,

Unfortuently  i'm not a developer  so wouldn't be able to help build the
archive  , but think its an amazing idea and would really benefit the
community


Paul
-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
Sent: 10 August 2015 21:59
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project?

Hi list,

Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where
somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is
gone, does anybody have a copy.

As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game
archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large
collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then
send out installers on request.

My current vision for this project is something like the following:

*The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as
well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in
gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept,
3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different
gameplay and different sounds).

*Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but
not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a
blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined).

*Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either
using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is
mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for
each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge
amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its
really not that comprehensive).

I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this.

Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot
of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do
enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted,
which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain.

Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where
we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of
games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore.

How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you
especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing
to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive?
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Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

If you can contact me off-list, I'll send along some info on our current 
status, including where you can get an up-to-date list of the archive 
contents and recent changes, as well as what currently needs updated info.
Note: the above also goes for any list member whose interested in lending a 
hand to the project - the more the merrier.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 18:40
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

Hi,

Yep, more than happy to help in any way I can, as like I said think it would
be a great resource. I don't have many games to contribute , but will look
through my 2 PC's and see what I've got and happily send it over. But
anything else you want help with such as research  or tracking down games
I'll be happy to help where I can

Paul

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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
Sent: 12 August 2015 23:24
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

You don't have to be a developer to contribute files - you just have to be
willing to spend some time, potentially help out with a bit of research, and
send in whatever installers you've got that we don't. Even if you don't have
any installers, another person whose willing to help out would be great -
more hands makes work go faster, and more opinions makes everything more
fun.

--
From: Paul Lemm paul.lem...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 18:20
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

Hi John,

Unfortuently  i'm not a developer  so wouldn't be able to help build the
archive  , but think its an amazing idea and would really benefit the
community

Paul
-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
Sent: 10 August 2015 21:59
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project?

Hi list,

Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where
somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is
gone, does anybody have a copy.

As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game
archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large
collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then
send out installers on request.

My current vision for this project is something like the following:

*The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as
well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in
gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept,
3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different
gameplay and different sounds).

*Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but
not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a
blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined).

*Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either
using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is
mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for
each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge
amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its
really not that comprehensive).

I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this.

Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot
of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do
enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted,
which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain.

Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where
we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of
games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore.

How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you
especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing
to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive?
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Re: [Audyssey] All of Jim's games in 1 neat installer.

2015-08-12 Thread Paul Lemm

Thanks for the link


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Sent: 12 August 2015 20:44
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] All of Jim's games in 1 neat installer.

Hi guys.  Here's a link to the web page where you can download all of Jim
Kitchen's games in 1 installer.
http://blog.bryansmart.com/2015/08/12/kitchens-sink-1-0/

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Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

2015-08-12 Thread Paul Lemm

Hi,

Yep, more than happy to help in any way I can, as like I said think it would
be a great resource. I don't have many games to contribute , but will look
through my 2 PC's and see what I've got and happily send it over. But
anything else you want help with such as research  or tracking down games
I'll be happy to help where I can

Paul 

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
Sent: 12 August 2015 23:24
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

You don't have to be a developer to contribute files - you just have to be
willing to spend some time, potentially help out with a bit of research, and
send in whatever installers you've got that we don't. Even if you don't have
any installers, another person whose willing to help out would be great -
more hands makes work go faster, and more opinions makes everything more
fun.

--
From: Paul Lemm paul.lem...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 18:20
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

Hi John,

Unfortuently  i'm not a developer  so wouldn't be able to help build the
archive  , but think its an amazing idea and would really benefit the
community


Paul
-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
Sent: 10 August 2015 21:59
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project?

Hi list,

Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where
somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is
gone, does anybody have a copy.

As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game
archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large
collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then
send out installers on request.

My current vision for this project is something like the following:

*The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as
well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in
gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept,
3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different
gameplay and different sounds).

*Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but
not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a
blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined).

*Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either
using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is
mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for
each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge
amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its
really not that comprehensive).

I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this.

Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot
of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do
enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted,
which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain.

Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where
we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of
games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore.

How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you
especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing
to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive?
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Re: [Audyssey] support status of some games

Awesome, thanks for the updates. I'll note that blastbay, Draconis and Final 
Conflict are supported for the archive.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 17:45
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] support status of some games

Hello John,

Yes, I am actively supporting Final Conflict. There is even a new
version in development although like all the USA Games titles
development has been slowed due to events going on in my personal
life.

I'll also add I am pretty sure Draconis Entertainment is still
supporting their older games such as Alien Outback, Pinball Classic,
Dynaman, etc. I'm not sure to what level of support they have for
those games, but I don't think they are abandoned by any stretch of
the imagination.

Cheers!

On 8/12/15, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anybody know if the following games are being supported anymore
 (supported means I can contact the developer about the game and get a 
 likely
 and at least somewhat helpful response):
 *blastbay titles
 *old bpc titles (treasure hunt 3, tournament)
 *Older draconis titles (alien outback, pinball, etc)
 *entombed
 *all titles from lighttech interactive
 *titles from l works (I know Liam's been almost unreachable)
 *final conflict
 *rail racer

 If the devs of any of these games see this message, I'd really appreciate 
 it
 if you could get in touch with me, especially if you fall somewhere in the
 middle between yes and no for support. Please note that if your games
 show up on this list its not me trying to be offensive - its because I'm
 uncertain of your status and would like to clarify if you're still 
 actively
 developing, on the sidelines or completely uninvolved with the community.
 Also, support does not mean you're updating your games or that you're even
 planning to - but it does mean you'd tell somebody something like you're
 running a 64-bit os, you're out of luck if they contacted you about it.

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[Audyssey] support status of some games

Does anybody know if the following games are being supported anymore (supported 
means I can contact the developer about the game and get a likely and at least 
somewhat helpful response):
*blastbay titles
*old bpc titles (treasure hunt 3, tournament)
*Older draconis titles (alien outback, pinball, etc)
*entombed
*all titles from lighttech interactive
*titles from l works (I know Liam's been almost unreachable)
*final conflict
*rail racer

If the devs of any of these games see this message, I'd really appreciate it if 
you could get in touch with me, especially if you fall somewhere in the middle 
between yes and no for support. Please note that if your games show up on 
this list its not me trying to be offensive - its because I'm uncertain of your 
status and would like to clarify if you're still actively developing, on the 
sidelines or completely uninvolved with the community.
Also, support does not mean you're updating your games or that you're even 
planning to - but it does mean you'd tell somebody something like you're 
running a 64-bit os, you're out of luck if they contacted you about it.

Thanks,
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Re: [Audyssey] Quick question regarding KitchenSinc games on Windows10.

…
Hi Gary,

The error message you are getting has nothing to do with Windows 10.
You most likely are getting that error because the games can't find
the main menu program that comes with Winkit.

Cheers!


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 Evening everyone!

 I'm now on Windows10. I love it! Upgraded from 8.1
 Just a quick question regarding Jim Kitchen's games.

 I can get them to run fine, but when I exit them I'm getting a strange
 error message.
 Error 53: File not found. OK button.

 Please if anyone else is on Windows10 and can duplicate this, can you
 let me know? Thanks!
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Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

Hi John,

That's a good idea, and I agree. The key generator is out there on the
web if someone Googles for it. That said, there is no need to put
yourself at risk by offering it yourself.

Cheers!


On 8/12/15, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote:
 I figure its probably a good idea to say this flat out:
 I've no intent of offering the bsc code generator via the games archive, or

 any other keygens with an uncertain legal background.
 I'm absolutely certain that anybody who felt like dedicating half an hour of

 their time could find a copy of it, if not multiple.
 Therefore, while I  will offer the demo installers of the games through the

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[Audyssey] Quick question regarding KitchenSinc games on Windows10.

2015-08-12 Thread Gary Price(Gmail)


Evening everyone!

I'm now on Windows10. I love it! Upgraded from 8.1
Just a quick question regarding Jim Kitchen's games.

I can get them to run fine, but when I exit them I'm getting a strange 
error message.

Error 53: File not found. OK button.

Please if anyone else is on Windows10 and can duplicate this, can you 
let me know? Thanks!

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Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

I figure its probably a good idea to say this flat out:
I've no intent of offering the bsc code generator via the games archive, or 
any other keygens with an uncertain legal background.
I'm absolutely certain that anybody who felt like dedicating half an hour of 
their time could find a copy of it, if not multiple.
Therefore, while I  will offer the demo installers of the games through the 
archive, I will not be a source for the keygen.


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Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 19:12
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

Hi Damien,

I see where you are going with this, but unfortunately the terms of
the license agreement really prohibits free redistribution of the key
generator for the BSC titles. While I'd like to agree with you on a
personal level as a gamer, but as a list administrator I can't legally
allow people to redistribute that key generator given its legal
status. So My suggestion is to simply ignore all of the paid BSC
titles given their legally in limbo.

There are however some BSC titles I think can be freely redistributed
like the original Deekout and Bobby's Revenge since they were free to
begin with.

Cheers!



On 8/10/15, Damien Sykes-Pendleton dam...@dcpendleton.plus.com wrote:
 Hi John,
 I would certainly like to see something like that, and I would certainly 
 be

 willing to contribute what I have.
 One thing I would say though, is that since the BSC software is abandoned,
 and the key generator was once sold, couldn't we get access to that
 alongside the other stuff? I say we either give full availability to the
 product where such availability has been granted, or don't host any kind 
 of

 paid material at all if it can no longer be purchased. I say this because 
 I

 know how I would feel, both emotionally as a potential customer and
 conscientiously as a developer, having a game which I know has more
 functionality than the demo allows and not being able to play it. I can
 understand it from both points of view.
 Cheers.
 Damien.

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Re: [Audyssey] support status of some games

2015-08-12 Thread Philip Bennefall

Hi John,

For my part, I'm around in the sense that I read the list from time to
time but I am not actively developing games. I will certainly do the
occasional sideline project, but that's about it given my current workload.

Kind regards,

Philip Bennefall

On 8/12/2015 10:57 PM, john wrote:

Does anybody know if the following games are being supported anymore (supported
means I can contact the developer about the game and get a likely and at least
somewhat helpful response):
*blastbay titles
*old bpc titles (treasure hunt 3, tournament)
*Older draconis titles (alien outback, pinball, etc)
*entombed
*all titles from lighttech interactive
*titles from l works (I know Liam's been almost unreachable)
*final conflict
*rail racer

If the devs of any of these games see this message, I'd really appreciate it if you could get in
touch with me, especially if you fall somewhere in the middle between yes and
no for support. Please note that if your games show up on this list its not me trying
to be offensive - its because I'm uncertain of your status and would like to clarify if you're
still actively developing, on the sidelines or completely uninvolved with the community.
Also, support does not mean you're updating your games or that you're even planning to -
but it does mean you'd tell somebody something like you're running a 64-bit os,
you're out of luck if they contacted you about it.

Thanks,
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Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

2015-08-12 Thread Paul Lemm

Hi John,

Unfortuently  i'm not a developer  so wouldn't be able to help build the
archive  , but think its an amazing idea and would really benefit the
community 


Paul 
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From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of john
Sent: 10 August 2015 21:59
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project?

Hi list,

Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where
somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is
gone, does anybody have a copy.

As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game
archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large
collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then
send out installers on request.

My current vision for this project is something like the following:

*The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as
well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in
gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept,
3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different
gameplay and different sounds).

*Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but
not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a
blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined).

*Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either
using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is
mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for
each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge
amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its
really not that comprehensive).

I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this.

Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot
of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do
enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted,
which makes finding games (like rail racer) a pain.

Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where
we can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of
games that aren't on the dev's web site anymore.

How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you
especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing
to dedicate some time to help me put together the archive?
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Re: [Audyssey] All of Jim's games in 1 neat installer.

2015-08-12 Thread Darren Duff


You got it!

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On 8/12/2015 6:22 PM, Paul Lemm wrote:

Thanks for the link


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Sent: 12 August 2015 20:44
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: [Audyssey] All of Jim's games in 1 neat installer.

Hi guys.  Here's a link to the web page where you can download all of Jim
Kitchen's games in 1 installer.
http://blog.bryansmart.com/2015/08/12/kitchens-sink-1-0/




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Re: [Audyssey] support status of some games

Hello John,

Yes, I am actively supporting Final Conflict. There is even a new
version in development although like all the USA Games titles
development has been slowed due to events going on in my personal
life.

I'll also add I am pretty sure Draconis Entertainment is still
supporting their older games such as Alien Outback, Pinball Classic,
Dynaman, etc. I'm not sure to what level of support they have for
those games, but I don't think they are abandoned by any stretch of
the imagination.

Cheers!


On 8/12/15, john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anybody know if the following games are being supported anymore
 (supported means I can contact the developer about the game and get a likely
 and at least somewhat helpful response):
 *blastbay titles
 *old bpc titles (treasure hunt 3, tournament)
 *Older draconis titles (alien outback, pinball, etc)
 *entombed
 *all titles from lighttech interactive
 *titles from l works (I know Liam's been almost unreachable)
 *final conflict
 *rail racer

 If the devs of any of these games see this message, I'd really appreciate it
 if you could get in touch with me, especially if you fall somewhere in the
 middle between yes and no for support. Please note that if your games
 show up on this list its not me trying to be offensive - its because I'm
 uncertain of your status and would like to clarify if you're still actively
 developing, on the sidelines or completely uninvolved with the community.
 Also, support does not mean you're updating your games or that you're even
 planning to - but it does mean you'd tell somebody something like you're
 running a 64-bit os, you're out of luck if they contacted you about it.

 Thanks,
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Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

Hi Damien,

I see where you are going with this, but unfortunately the terms of
the license agreement really prohibits free redistribution of the key
generator for the BSC titles. While I'd like to agree with you on a
personal level as a gamer, but as a list administrator I can't legally
allow people to redistribute that key generator given its legal
status. So My suggestion is to simply ignore all of the paid BSC
titles given their legally in limbo.

There are however some BSC titles I think can be freely redistributed
like the original Deekout and Bobby's Revenge since they were free to
begin with.

Cheers!



On 8/10/15, Damien Sykes-Pendleton dam...@dcpendleton.plus.com wrote:
 Hi John,
 I would certainly like to see something like that, and I would certainly be

 willing to contribute what I have.
 One thing I would say though, is that since the BSC software is abandoned,
 and the key generator was once sold, couldn't we get access to that
 alongside the other stuff? I say we either give full availability to the
 product where such availability has been granted, or don't host any kind of

 paid material at all if it can no longer be purchased. I say this because I

 know how I would feel, both emotionally as a potential customer and
 conscientiously as a developer, having a game which I know has more
 functionality than the demo allows and not being able to play it. I can
 understand it from both points of view.
 Cheers.
 Damien.

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Re: [Audyssey] All of Jim's games in 1 neat installer.

2015-08-12 Thread Darren Duff


Glad to help.

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On 8/12/2015 3:49 PM, john wrote:

Thanks for this.

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To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] All of Jim's games in 1 neat installer.

Hi guys.  Here's a link to the web page where you can download all of
Jim Kitchen's games in 1 installer.
http://blog.bryansmart.com/2015/08/12/kitchens-sink-1-0/




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Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: Jim Kitchens games

hmmm probably it would be good to get the complete installer to 
modernise the windows games especially since they will be static from 
now on.
we don't need the xp speech api files or the fix sapi file, they could 
actually mangle things if anyone tried to load those now.




On 11/08/2015 10:11 a.m., Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Dark,

I would suppose submissions could be sent to the webmaster, Joshua
Griffith, and he could add them to the Kitchensinc.net site.



On 8/10/15, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:

That is extremely good to know and I'm very glad of that fact.
As I said on audiogames.net, With the amount of people grabbing up jim's
games ad wanting to host them, it is more likely they will be seen
everywhere! than not available anywhere, however I do like the thought of
people not just being able to play jim's games but reading the descriptions

of them that he wrote before they download them.

Just one question. It is possible that people will create more golf courses,

trivia question files or monopoly board configurations in the future, (off
and on I've been working on a Doctor Who trivia set). It'd be nice if these

could also be added to Jim's site, though if not they could of course be
hosted elsewhere.

Beware the grue!

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?

2015-08-12 Thread Joshua Tubbs

How complex is Draiker actually? I signed up, started the tutorial, and it just 
seems like your average player versus player game.
Features says it has a storyline, but I do not know where that is. On a side 
note, you can find most new games and possibly also better walkthroughs for old 
games at http://ifdb.tads.org


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 On Aug 12, 2015, at 7:38 AM, Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello John,
 OK, This worked. But, what are games, exactly? Like, where do I go after the 
 home page?
 
 - Original Message -
 From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Date: Wednesday, 12 August 2015 1:54 am
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text 
 games?
 
 
 
 It would appear I gave you a bad link - use:
 www.ffproject.com
 instead.
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:41
 To: gamers@audyssey.org
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text 
 games?
 
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 Anonymous
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 Anonymous
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 sure ¬ MIME type is acceptable.   Links and More Information  This 
 error occurs when the client requests a file with a certain file extension 
 and then specifies the Accept header with a MIME type that is different from 
 the configuration of this file extension on the server. An example is 
 requesting a file with the .doc extension and specifying an Accept header 
 with text/xml instead of application/msword. Usually the client specifies 
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 From: dark d...@xgam.org
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Date: Tuesday, 11 August 2015 4:30 pm
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text 
 games?
 
 
 
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Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: MediaReq How Jim Kitchen died


yeah I agree stomach ulsas suck major


On 11/08/2015 8:20 a.m., Shane Davidson wrote:

This just rolled across my desk.
Shane

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I know many were asking how Jim Kitchen died.  His sister Sendy wrote me
and told me the following.
Jim had a bleeding ulcer, and he started bleeding internally and lost
too much blood. They could not revive him when his heart stopped.
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Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: Jim Kitchens games


well thats good to know.
its good we have mirrors of this stuff but we may not need the dropbox 
archives of them It would be good if some innosetup installer would 
install and register the vb6 latest service pack libraries, and then 
install the games or just install the libs and we can run the games as 
portable



On 11/08/2015 8:55 a.m., Thomas Ward wrote:

Hello all,

Here is a message from Joshua Griffith regarding Jim's site and games.
I thought any interested parties should read this.


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From: Joshua Griffith webmas...@jgriffith.com
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 06:21:26 -0500
Subject: Jim Kitchens games
To: gamers-ow...@audyssey.org

Just wanted to drop you a note regarding Kitchensinc.net.



I've noticed a spike in the download usage on the Kitchensinc.net website,
so just to clarify this for those downloading his games with the expectation
that they will no longer be available to download.



I will not be removing Jims site from my hosting package. His site will
remain intact and his games will remain available, and free to download for
many years to come.



Sincerely,



Joshua Griffith.

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Re: [Audyssey] rail racer


well rr 1 has a mangled reg system so it may not run.
it also runs an extremely old version of dotnet and so it again may not run.
Railracer v2 is supposed to be out but not many seem to like it or at 
least the reviews I got from it were not good.




On 11/08/2015 3:21 p.m., john wrote:

Somebody had asked about where to find rail racer.
A bit of digging turned up the following (confirmed valid) link:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/62157990/Games/RailRacerDemo10Setup.exe
I'll also be adding this to the games archive, so it'll be available through 
that avenue as well, once its off the ground.
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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away:

which is why I extracted them but I actually never learned how to do 
inosetup fully.
it would be good if all games, and libraries would be loaded into a 
single installer.




On 11/08/2015 11:01 a.m., Charles Rivard wrote:

The reason that a newer installer is wanted is that the old files do not
rock.  Look at your lack of punctuation and how it changes what I think
you meant.  The old files do not rock.

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- Original Message - From: Shaun Everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com
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Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2015 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen passes away:



well that will rock if they are.
if we can abandon the indevidual installers but still have something
that will install all the libraries and stuff without relying on old
files that will rock.



On 9/08/2015 10:37 p.m., Darren Duff wrote:

Someone is making a mega installer for all of his games. It should be
out tomorrow. will keep the list updated.

Darren Duff.
amateur radio station KK4AHX.

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On 8/9/2015 12:46 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Aprone,

The way I see it the more people who can share the files the better.
While I also intend to mirror his site and games I would like to
perhaps repackage them and give them better Windows installers. While
the method he uses is functional it doesn't really cut it for today's
computing environment now that 64 bit Windows uses the Program Files
(x86) folder rather than the older Program Files folder and that just
confuses people to no end. So a new installer that would pick the
correct one would be an improvement, and I would like to repackage the
games to have a more updated installer. So perhaps we can work on
something like that besides just mirroring them as is.

Also I heard you live three hours away from Chardon, and if you can it
would be nice to have another VB 6 dev take control of his source.
While I could probably do it I am pretty busy and have a lot on my
plate and wouldn't be up to taking on that many games any time soon.
Plus while I know VB 6 it has never been my forte anyway.

Cheers!


On 8/8/15, Jeremy Kaldobsky jer...@kaldobsky.com wrote:

I've grabbed a copy of his website and all of the downloads, and I
plan to
host them on my site.  I didn't realize anyone else had volunteered
to do
so, so hopefully I'm not pushing anyone over by doing this.  I
suppose it
can only be a good thing to have Jim's audiogames legacy hosted in
a few
places, just in case.I noticed that all but 1 of his GMHA board
meeting
recordings is missing.
His Yahtzee game, winyaht2.exe keeps getting flagged by my Avast
antivirus.
Can anyone confirm this, or is it just a false positive?  I want to
be 100%
sure it is safe before I go hosting it on my own site.  I'd feel
bad if
anyone was harmed by something they downloaded from me, even if I
wasn't the
original author of the file.
- Aprone

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Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

Hi Josh,

You are comparing apples to oranges here. The Vocalizer Add-on and
Leasey are completely two different types of programs, are supported
differently by NVDA, thus is a poor comparison. Let me explain.

With Leasey it is written to be a screen reader add-on. It directly
interfaces with the screen reader, and is written in the screen
reader's own scripting language. Thus it is subject to the same type
of license of the screen reader it is written for. In the case of NVDA
that would be the GPL which means it couldn't be closed source.

The Vocalizer voices are not a part of NVDA. They are a completely
separate entity legally and technically so of course can be closed
source. The only connection they have to NVDA is the Vocalizer
drivers, which by the way are open source, and are in keeping with the
NVDA license agreement.

So you see if the add-on is a module for NVDA it has to be open
source. If it is a separate program that works independent of NVDA it
can be closed source.

HTH


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 that can't be because we have vocalizer addon for NVDA and vocalizer is
 not open source.

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Re: [Audyssey] support status of some games

I wasn't thinking anything nearly that complex - more along the lines of 
somebody dedicating some time to keeping an up to date list of games 
themselves and handing them out on request.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] support status of some games

Entombed yes. There is an email list.
thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs http://www.brandonkeithbiggs.com/
On 8/12/2015 10:57 PM, john wrote:
 Does anybody know if the following games are being supported anymore 
 (supported means I can contact the developer about the game and get a 
 likely and at least somewhat helpful response):
 *blastbay titles
 *old bpc titles (treasure hunt 3, tournament)
 *Older draconis titles (alien outback, pinball, etc)
 *entombed
 *all titles from lighttech interactive
 *titles from l works (I know Liam's been almost unreachable)
 *final conflict
 *rail racer

 If the devs of any of these games see this message, I'd really appreciate 
 it if you could get in touch with me, especially if you fall somewhere in 
 the middle between yes and no for support. Please note that if your 
 games show up on this list its not me trying to be offensive - its because 
 I'm uncertain of your status and would like to clarify if you're still 
 actively developing, on the sidelines or completely uninvolved with the 
 community.
 Also, support does not mean you're updating your games or that you're even 
 planning to - but it does mean you'd tell somebody something like you're 
 running a 64-bit os, you're out of luck if they contacted you about it.

 Thanks,
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Re: [Audyssey] jim's nfl football - Josh K


hmmm thats still a lot to read.
If you have a solid state drive and 8gb ram maybe but if you had a 
dulecore or even slower unit I could see you having issues loading it.




On 11/08/2015 8:21 a.m., Thomas Ward wrote:

Hi Shaun,

I suspect the statement the e-mail was 400 MB of text was exaggerated.
Try about 4 MB from what I saw.

Cheers!


On 8/10/15, Shaun Everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote:

well I found the mail in gmail and deleted it before it downloaded, it,
yeah 400mb of text would take ages to open.





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Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

well I have legal access to the generator justin d sort of abandoned the 
community anyway and while I won't send his generator round much as I 
would like to I really have no issue if someone requests a key to give it.
Sadly the same goes with q9 I only have 1 key sadly, however the same 
applies.
There will have to be some rules in the archive, no comercial games that 
are under development or still copywrited or sold!.
Ofcause if they are not sold anymore or will not be sold anymore then 
thats up for descussion.
I do think to be honest that for something like this we should make it 
that if the developer can be contacted and is relyable to a point or is 
active or is not dead etc that that licence still applies.
Ofcause if someone challenges us on something thats fine but I don't see 
it fair if I  lets say am a dev that decides to close up shop or I don't 
respond to mail or I simply am not active at all and or die or something 
but my games are copywrited to me or a non me and then someone can't use em.
If I ever make something I think my licences and all registrations will 
work till I die, after that I can't really complain if someone cracks it 
so whats the point.




On 11/08/2015 11:05 a.m., john wrote:

My concern with providing official access to the keygen is that I don't know
who has legal access to it.
I suppose from a technical standpoint its only piracy if you actually use
the generator - but I'm not sure that's a line I particularly want to walk,
especially if I'm trying to make this archive something the whole community
knows about. It'd be different if I was considering offering it to a single
person, but if I'm going to say email me and I'll send you whatever you
want then I want to be a lot more careful.
I want the archive to be a place people can go to get games - but I also
don't want to get sued.
My stance on this is a bit more paranoid than some - I've seen a number of
different links for bsc floating around - but especially if I'm acting in an
official capacity as archive manager as opposed to myself I'd rather be
caucious.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

Hi John,
I would certainly like to see something like that, and I would certainly be
willing to contribute what I have.
One thing I would say though, is that since the BSC software is abandoned,
and the key generator was once sold, couldn't we get access to that
alongside the other stuff? I say we either give full availability to the
product where such availability has been granted, or don't host any kind of
paid material at all if it can no longer be purchased. I say this because I
know how I would feel, both emotionally as a potential customer and
conscientiously as a developer, having a game which I know has more
functionality than the demo allows and not being able to play it. I can
understand it from both points of view.
Cheers.
Damien.

-Original Message-
From: john
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:59 PM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project?

Hi list,

Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where
somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, or game y is
gone, does anybody have a copy.

As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game
archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large
collections of games would work to create a central repository, and then
send out installers on request.

My current vision for this project is something like the following:

*The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as
well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in
gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept,
3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different
gameplay and different sounds).

*Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but
not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a
blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined).

*Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either
using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is
mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a page for
each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge
amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its
really not that comprehensive).

I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this.

Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot
of people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do
enough digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted,
which makes finding games (like rail

Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

also while there were archives a lot of older games will not work with
windows current or later versions so may not work anyway.

On 11/08/2015 8:59 a.m., john wrote:

Hi list,

Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a
question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a
copy.

As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a game archive
project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have large collections of games
would work to create a central repository, and then send out installers on request.

My current vision for this project is something like the following:

*The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be found, as well
as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference in gameplay,
sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would be kept, 3.5 would
not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player mission different gameplay and
different sounds).

*Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc games, but
not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could result in a
blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined).

*Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering either using
dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for this is mostly
related to web site management - I could probably build a page for each author,
but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd require huge amounts of
storage space (my personal archive of installers is 8gb, and its really not
that comprehensive).

I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this.

Firstly, is the fact that there's no real central location for games. A lot of
people have installers, and pretty much any game can be found if you do enough
digging on audiogames.net, but not all of them are still hosted, which makes
finding games (like rail racer) a pain.

Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we
can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games
that aren't on the dev's web site anymore.

How do you all feel about this (developers, I'd love to hear from you
especially), and if I were to try to make this a reality, who'd be willing to
dedicate some time to help me put together the archive?
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Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?

sometimes I do though when I do I play mostly the newer glulx games and 
I havn't found any really good ones that have tickled my fancy since 
hadyan lands which I am still not done with.




On 11/08/2015 7:06 a.m., Rajmund wrote:

Hi all,

Well, the subject pretty much says it. Anyone still plays the old games, that 
have extentions like z5? Or am I looking at the wrong place? I'm stuck in a few 
games, and wonder whether anyone plays/played them and could help?
Also, anyone into online text based role playing online games?


Many thanks!!

PS. I only have note takers to play, that's why I only play text based games.
Rajmund

Sent from a Braille Sense

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Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

wow ambcious.
Ok, what exactly do you want, I have a lot of games, some of them are
full versions like grail to the thief so obviously I can't archive those.

I have a lot of old dos games, therre is jims games which are mirrored now.
There are others, sadly I think us guys at realitysoftware have
abandoned a lot of our old code but I may have some of it, well sadly
not the really old stuff.
I have quite a few old z codes, and a lot of agt and tads games and
their compilers, if you are on the dosbox list you probably saw me
upload that entire archive and its been up here a few times.
How would the request system work, I can't store every game, so we would
need some sort of server or servers.

who would fund the prroject or would people contribute to it.
I could probably give about 2-10 bucks every so often but with sertain
family funding going away later this year I can't just chuck cash at the
project.
I have seen other projects on bt syncs, dropboxes, and ftp sites
publicly accessable get full of viruses, worms and trogens to deleted
files and the like to people hacking computers with stuff inside files
though.
I guess I'd be happy to submit to it but I don't have much of a net
connection data wize the 30gb cap is often overloaded with online
streams and I don't want to overload it myself with extranious data.

On 11/08/2015 8:59 a.m., john wrote:

Hi list,

Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a
question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a
copy.

My current vision for this project is something like the following:

I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this.

Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we
can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games
that aren't on the dev's web site anymore.

Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home

2015-08-12 Thread Josh K

that can't be because we have vocalizer addon for NVDA and vocalizer is 
not open source.


follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

On 8/10/2015 11:49 AM, Gmail wrote:

 From what I heard, the developers of Leaseyo did actually approach the 
developers of NVDA about supporting it; things fell through, though, because 
NVDA requires that all their code be open source, which makes sense, and it 
seemed like the developers of Leasey either weren't willing or weren't able to 
do that.


Thanks,
Ari


On Jul 27, 2015, at 5:03 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Ian,

Yep, I'd seen the first link, but Bryan's response was new to me so
thanks for that. I figured it was worth asking here because the outcry
wasn't overwhelming yet, but having just read that no further comments
will be forthcoming I guess I won't be getting a response direct from
the horses mouth. NO matter really, it's clear at this point that
however politely written they might be (and to be fair, most of them
weren't), individual protestations aren't going to change anything.

For what it's worth, I already own Q9. Have done since release day or
pretty close to it. I've got massive respect for Philip's development
chops and his taste in SFX. It's a big shame that the community wasn't
large enough to provide enough of an income to make it worth him
retaining the rights to his creation. I've had to pass along rights to
music I've sweated over before to make ends meet, and can sympathise
that it's not always an easy decision. However, my disappointment
stems from the business model of where the rights now reside. Philip
would've been aware of said model, and from a couple of brief
conversations over the years I had him pegged up as a pretty forward
thinking chap, hence his decision of who to sell to surprised me.
That's why I attempted to open a dialogue somewhere a little less
fraught.

In my mind, for a community as small as this one, games being tied to
specific screen readers is a terrible idea, which makes games being
tied to a paid product which is in turn tied to a paid screen reader a
*truly* terrible idea! Tbh, I'd question who Leasy's users even are,
given that funding for JAWS licenses isn't dished out willy-nilly
anymore. I mean, do you know many people with enough spare change to
invest in a JAWS license which costs more than an entry level
computer, then splash a bit more cash to change the user interface of
that expensive product they've just bought? I don't! Perhaps Bryan is
shooting for exclusive content such as Q9 making his platform more
appealing, but I would've thought it would've been clear from a bit of
research that a large - if not majority - portion of the younger
generation in this community (his potential long-term customers) are
going to turn their nose up at anyone who's willingly hopped into bed
with Freedom Scientific.

Of course, this is all just one chap's opinion. The decision was
Philip's to make, and he made it. I guess at this point I'm mostly
sounding off because if Leasy have any sort of buying power, this
might not be the only game to be acquired rather than developed
specifically for a platform which frankly, I would hope is short
lived. That's a strong statement, but it carries no animosity on a
personal level to anyone involved. I'm saying that it's the business
model that sucks for end users, not necessarily the people behind it.

Lastly, for anyone who made it this far and has me pegged as another
holier than thou armchair critic, I should probably point out that
I've been instrumental in finding funding for a couple of
accessibility products, so I feel pretty confident in stating that
Leasy's model isn't the only way. Funding is still out there for good
ideas. That funding can greatly reduce the cost for end users, and if
Leasy were screen reader agnostic, it could've been a product that
attracted more young, hungry gamers. But nope.

Anyway, just a splurge of my initial thoughts on the subject. Maybe
they'll reach a future developer who gets approached and give him or
her something to chew on...

Scott


On 7/27/15, Ian Reed supp...@blindaudiogames.com wrote:
Hi Scott,

In post 48 Philip said:
The transfer of rights is already concluded, so at this point anyone who
wants to obtain Q9 will have to contact the folks behind Leasey.
*snip*

To me this says that Philip can not continue to sell the game through
Blast Bay.

Someone also posted a link to Bryan Hartgen's response regarding Q9:
http://www.hartgen.org/q9

In which he says:
Just to summarise, if anyone purchased a license for the game in the
past, of course that is still going to function. However, no further
standalone licenses will be issued.
*snip*

While I do understand people being frustrated that Q9 now requires Jaws
and Leasy to play, the people who already purchased the standalone
version can continue to play it as they have in the past.
The game was available for 6 years, to me this says that anyone who was
serious about

Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

If you can give me a snippet of what you're thinking for an organizational 
system that'd be awesome, maybe 10-20 games in a zip file or something. My 
concern is that if I'm going to do interactive fiction,  step one is going 
to be going into ftp.ifarchive.org and copying everything down for sorting, 
which is an absolutely tremendously huge project.

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From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 19:05
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

Hello,
Most (not all) games have proper titles. Although, I can see where you're 
coming from.

PS. As for my message, I'll start fresh, and I'll let you know how I do.

- Original Message -
From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 11:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

 The problem with organizing games based on the file name is that said name
 is almost always cryptic. If I'm going to try to organize the games in a 
 way
 that makes sense, I'm going to have to rename pretty much every single one
 of them.
 Honestly, making a proper archive of IF titles is probably going to be
 incredibly difficult, and the more I think about it the more I start to
 wonder if its beyond the scope of what I'm trying to do.

 --
 From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 18:01
 To: gamers@audyssey.org
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

 Hello,
 Just put them in categories, and after that, name from a to z. That should
 work.

 - Original Message -
 From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:44 pm
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

  I honestly have no clue how I'd organize IF titles - I suspect that'd be 
  a
  work in progress for quite a while.

  --
  From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com
  Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:41
  To: gamers@audyssey.org
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

  Hello,
  Yes, different categories sound good. Well, young know where to find me,
  if
  I'm needed.

  - Original Message -
  From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com
  To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
  Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 10:20 pm
  Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

   If the project ets off the ground I'll certainly take you up on that.
   I'd
   probably sort IF games a bit differently than audiogames (because
   there's
   so
   many), but I do want to have them represented.

   --
   From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com
   Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 17:16
   To: gamers@audyssey.org
   Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

   Hello John,
   If anyone wants, I could contribute about 100 mb worth of zcode games.
   :)
   I
   mean it, though. I got about 700/800 of them. I can't help 
   programming,
   though.

   - Original Message -
   From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com
   To: gamers@audyssey.org
   Date: Monday, 10 August 2015 9:59 pm
   Subject: [Audyssey] game archive project?

Hi list,

Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've 
seen
where somebody's asking a question like where can I find game x, 
or
game y is gone, does anybody have a copy.

As a result, I'm wondering how the community would feel about a 
game
archive project. Basically, my idea is that those of us who have
large
collections of games would work to create a central repository, and
then
send out installers on request.

My current vision for this project is something like the following:

*The archive will keep a copy of any and all games that can be 
found,
as
well as versions of the same game that offer a noticeable difference
in
gameplay, sounds, storyline, etc. Example: swamp version 3.6 would 
be
kept, 3.5 would not, 1.1 would (because it has a single player 
mission
different gameplay and different sounds).

*Only legal games will be distributed. Example: the setup for bsc
games,
but not the key generator. Requesting an illegal product could 
result
in
a
blacklist of the person (or email if name cannot be determined).

*Requests will be handled on a case-by-case basis; I'm considering
either
using dropbox file requests or just plane old email. The reason for
this
is mostly related to web site management - I could probably build a
page
for each author, but keeping it updated would be a pain, and it'd
require
huge amounts of storage space (my personal archive of installers is
8gb,
and its really not that comprehensive).

I've got a few

Re: [Audyssey] game archive project?

2015-08-12 Thread Brandon Keith Biggs

Hello,
I think this would be a great idea!
Has anyone checked out
https://archive.org/
to see if they could help?

Otherwise we could ask Aprone if he would be willing to host them, we
could setup an amazon s3 bucket that is $1 a month every 100 gig, or we
could see if we can use github and have a branch for each game and have
a release on each branch.
It is also possible to use amazon s3 as a git repository, so we could
create a way for people to submit a game and an html page with each game.
But I think this is a problem for current developers. I think it may be
worth creating a little repository for current developers to host their
games as well as hosting games from older developers who aren't hosting
anymore.

I think I would be interested in setting something like this up.
thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs http://www.brandonkeithbiggs.com/
On 8/10/2015 10:59 PM, john wrote:

Hi list,

Recently I've been thinking about all the messages and posts I've seen where somebody's asking a
question like where can I find game x, or game y is gone, does anybody have a
copy.

My current vision for this project is something like the following:

I've got a few reasons for wanting to work on this.

Secondly, is that I'd personally love to see a really solid location where we
can browse and access old abandonware titles or just older versions of games
that aren't on the dev's web site anymore.

Re: [Audyssey] support status of some games

2015-08-12 Thread Brandon Keith Biggs

Entombed yes. There is an email list.
thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs http://www.brandonkeithbiggs.com/
On 8/12/2015 10:57 PM, john wrote:

Re: [Audyssey] support status of some games

well I know arion who is the light tech guy is still on the audiogames
forum.
entombed still exist, bpc, and draconis I assume, railracer is with a
new version I am not sure if they exist but they probably do.

The blast bay stuff, well phill does exist and is on the forums.

On 13/08/2015 8:57 a.m., john wrote:

Re: [Audyssey] All of Jim's games in 1 neat installer.


someone should post this on the forum.
Jim would be  happy he has now a sink.



On 13/08/2015 7:43 a.m., Darren Duff wrote:

Hi guys.  Here's a link to the web page where you can download all of
Jim Kitchen's games in 1 installer.
http://blog.bryansmart.com/2015/08/12/kitchens-sink-1-0/



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Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?

2015-08-12 Thread Rajmund

Hello John,
OK, This worked. But, what are games, exactly? Like, where do I go after the 
home page?

- Original Message -
From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date: Wednesday, 12 August 2015 1:54 am
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text 
games?

 It would appear I gave you a bad link - use:
 www.ffproject.com
 instead.

 --
 From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:41
 To: gamers@audyssey.org
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text 
 games?

 Hello,
 Here's what 1 browser sees: IIS 7.5 Detailed Error - 406.0 - Not Acceptable
 Server Error in Application FFPROJECT.ORG
 Internet Information Services 7.5
 Error Summary
 HTTP Error 406.0 - Not Acceptable
 The resource cannot be displayed because the file extension is not being 
 accepted by your browser.
 Detailed Error Information
 Module
 StaticFileModule
 Notification
 ExecuteRequestHandler
 Handler
 StaticFile
 Error Code
 0x
 Requested URL
 http://www.ffproject.org:80/index.html
 Physical Path
 D:\Inetpub\webs\ffprojectorg\index.html
 Logon Method
 Anonymous
 Logon User
 Anonymous
 Most likely causes:
 The request was rejected because it contained an Accept header for a MIME 
 type that is not supported for the requested file extension. Things 
 you can try:
 Verify the MIME settings for the file extension that was requested to make 
 sure ¬ MIME type is acceptable.   Links and More Information  This 
 error occurs when the client requests a file with a certain file extension 
 and then specifies the Accept header with a MIME type that is different from 
 the configuration of this file extension on the server. An example is 
 requesting a file with the .doc extension and specifying an Accept header 
 with text/xml instead of application/msword. Usually the client specifies 
 */* for the Accept header, which allows the request to serve any MIME type.
 View more information this

 And the other sees: The free cloud storage
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 research papers, or anything else, losing it is simply not an option. 
 Unfortunately, computers fail, and often. Having a backup plan set before 
 anything goes wrong is one of the most important tasks you will undertake as 
 a responsible computer user.
 We offer you unlimited space with automatic encryption, a user-friendly tool 
 to back up and restore files from everywhere, the possibility to share what 
 you want, and all for free.
 Next
 FFproj
 FFp and UFFp integrated in a unique solution with a graphic interface
 Drag'n'drop your files/directories and the ffp algorithm will produce a .F20 
 file of only 20 bytes (the key). Just needed to click on .F20 file or insert 
 the key to rebuild the original data. The easiest way to back up, save space 
 or sharing.
 Download
 Next
 Terms and conditions of use
 The software in this site is distribuited in the hope that it will be 
 useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; use at YOUR OWN RISK. By using ffproject 
 software, you signify your agreement to these Terms and Conditions.
 Limitation of Liability
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 Any ideas what I should click with this browser?

 - Original Message -
 From: dark d...@xgam.org
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Date: Tuesday, 11 August 2015 4:30 pm
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text 
 games?

  Hmmm,Ffproject shouldn't have given errors but as I said I have no idea 
  how
  this braillenote thing works.
  Age of fable is very simple there is a button called begin pregenerated
  character at this point just choose what sort of characters you want to
  play, read their stats and hit the links.
  on chronicles of arborell there is a click here for access section which
  tells you about the gamebooks and the world, start with windhammer.

  On project.aon, just go to the link that says
  On project.aon, click where it says view and download the books and you
  will get the full series of lone wolf books, start with the first flight
  from the dark and when your asked to choose a format try the simplified
  html.

  hth.

  Dark.

 Sent from a Braille Sense

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Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text games?

If you click on any of the gamebook names (I think they currently start with 
shrine of the salamander) you'll go to that gamebook.

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From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 7:38
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text 
games?

Hello John,
OK, This worked. But, what are games, exactly? Like, where do I go after the 
home page?

- Original Message -
From: john jpcarnemo...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Date: Wednesday, 12 August 2015 1:54 am
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text 
games?

 It would appear I gave you a bad link - use:
 www.ffproject.com
 instead.

 --
 From: Rajmund brajmund2...@gmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 11:41
 To: gamers@audyssey.org
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure,or online text
 games?

 Hello,
 Here's what 1 browser sees: IIS 7.5 Detailed Error - 406.0 - Not 
 Acceptable
 Server Error in Application FFPROJECT.ORG
 Internet Information Services 7.5
 Error Summary
 HTTP Error 406.0 - Not Acceptable
 The resource cannot be displayed because the file extension is not being
 accepted by your browser.
 Detailed Error Information
 Module
 StaticFileModule
 Notification
 ExecuteRequestHandler
 Handler
 StaticFile
 Error Code
 0x
 Requested URL
 http://www.ffproject.org:80/index.html
 Physical Path
 D:\Inetpub\webs\ffprojectorg\index.html
 Logon Method
 Anonymous
 Logon User
 Anonymous
 Most likely causes:
 The request was rejected because it contained an Accept header for a MIME
 type that is not supported for the requested file extension. 
 Things
 you can try:
 Verify the MIME settings for the file extension that was requested to make
 sure ¬ MIME type is acceptable.   Links and More Information  This
 error occurs when the client requests a file with a certain file extension
 and then specifies the Accept header with a MIME type that is different 
 from
 the configuration of this file extension on the server. An example is
 requesting a file with the .doc extension and specifying an Accept header
 with text/xml instead of application/msword. Usually the client specifies
 */* for the Accept header, which allows the request to serve any MIME 
 type.
 View more information this

 And the other sees: The free cloud storage
 Back up your data has never been easier.
 Protect or share your file without any cost.
 Next
 Unlimited space, no account required
 No popup, banners or video ads
 Your data is the most important thing on your computer. Be it family 
 photos,
 important tax documents, pieces of art, your band's music, sensitive
 research papers, or anything else, losing it is simply not an option.
 Unfortunately, computers fail, and often. Having a backup plan set before
 anything goes wrong is one of the most important tasks you will undertake 
 as
 a responsible computer user.
 We offer you unlimited space with automatic encryption, a user-friendly 
 tool
 to back up and restore files from everywhere, the possibility to share 
 what
 you want, and all for free.
 Next
 FFproj
 FFp and UFFp integrated in a unique solution with a graphic interface
 Drag'n'drop your files/directories and the ffp algorithm will produce a 
 .F20
 file of only 20 bytes (the key). Just needed to click on .F20 file or 
 insert
 the key to rebuild the original data. The easiest way to back up, save 
 space
 or sharing.
 Download
 Next
 Terms and conditions of use
 The software in this site is distribuited in the hope that it will be
 useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; use at YOUR OWN RISK. By using ffproject
 software, you signify your agreement to these Terms and Conditions.
 Limitation of Liability
 You agree not to hold the author liable for any damages or losses related 
 to
 the use of this software.
 Twitter
 Facebook
 LinkedIn
 Instagram
 GitHub
 Email
 © Frontera. All rights reserved.
 Design by Pixelarity

 Any ideas what I should click with this browser?

 - Original Message -
 From: dark d...@xgam.org
 To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
 Date: Tuesday, 11 August 2015 4:30 pm
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] anyone plays either text adventure, or online text
 games?

  Hmmm,Ffproject shouldn't have given errors but as I said I have no idea
  how
  this braillenote thing works.
  Age of fable is very simple there is a button called begin pregenerated
  character at this point just choose what sort of characters you want to
  play, read their stats and hit the links.
  on chronicles of arborell there is a click here for access section 
  which
  tells you about the gamebooks and the world, start with windhammer.

  On project.aon, just go to the link that says
  On project.aon, click where it says view and download the books and 
  you
  will get the full series of lone wolf

[Audyssey] Fwd: Virtual BNS emulator: eSpeak and Accessible_output2

2015-08-12 Thread Josh K

follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982

 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Virtual BNS emulator: eSpeak and Accessible_output2
Date:   Wed, 12 Aug 2015 11:10:44 +0200
From: 	'Sukil Etxenike' via Talking DOSbox 
talking-dos...@googlegroups.com

Reply-To:   Sukil Etxenike sukile...@yahoo.es
To: talking-dos...@googlegroups.com

Hello,
Those who read the group often will know that I uploaded a new version
of the Virtual BNS emulator, which uses a library taht can communicate
with screen readers and SAPI. Well, now this version, and the eSpeak
one, are released on github. I'll keep these there, and maybe I'll
upload them to the ftp. By the way, is the ftp still maintained?
Okay, so here you've got the links.
eSpeak version: https://github.com/sukiletxe/vbns-espeak/releases
Accessible_output2 version (compatible with JAWS, NVDA, Window Eyes,
Supernova...): https://github.com/sukiletxe/vbns-ao2/releases

If you want to contribute to these, feel free to open pull requests.
Suggestions are also welcome.
Regards,
Sukil

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Re: [Audyssey] jim kitchen obituary

2015-08-12 Thread Ron hopkins

I'm very sorry to hear abourt his passing.  He was a big part of this 
community and will be sorely missed.  R.I.P. jim.


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[Audyssey] All of Jim's games in 1 neat installer.

2015-08-12 Thread Darren Duff

Hi guys.  Here's a link to the web page where you can download all of 
Jim Kitchen's games in 1 installer.

http://blog.bryansmart.com/2015/08/12/kitchens-sink-1-0/

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Re: [Audyssey] All of Jim's games in 1 neat installer.