Re: [Audyssey] Question to Cara quin about audio quake
I tried to install AQ a while back, but failed somewhere along the line. Can anyone provide me with either guidance or a link where I can find advice on this, Very many thanks, David. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: 25 July 2014 21:08 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Question to Cara quin about audio quake Hi Dark! Sorry for the delay. It's been a busy week. :) Thomas has pretty much covered everything. Thank you Thomas! I'll just add that Sebby, one of the original devs of Audio Quake who is also a part of the AGRIP project is here on this list so perhaps he will chime in. Matthew, Sebby and others (myself included) are currently working on Audio quake for multiple platforms (Mac included) in a number of ways so this project is still in active development. As for Jedi Quake, though I've personally not been developing it for a while now, I believe someone else has done at least a little bit more with it since I last worked with it. I unfortunately have no actual info on that though. So at this point it's basically rumor. :) Thomas has shared the link to the latest original version created by me. So there you go. :) There will definitely be more info on AQ and JQ when more info is available. So please stay tuned! Thanks so much for your interest in keeping the word on Audio Quake and Jedi Quake out there so people still know they exist! It means a lot! :) Have a great weekend!!! Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jul 23, 2014, at 6:31 PM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi. I apologize for sending this via the list but I unfortunately don't have Cara's E-mail address to ask her privately. I am updating the audiogames.net db and I came to the entries for both audioquake and agrip (both of which were written a long time ago before I took over maintaining the db). My first question is, is Agrip totally invalidated by Audio quake? the audio quake entry said as much. If Agrip is now contained within audio quake I will remove it's entry from the db, sinse while (as I said to Ishen), I don't want to remove past entries there is no point keeping entries for past versions of the same game, which is why I deleted the Gma solitare entry and replaced it with one for Gma cards. The second question is what are the homepage and download links for audio quake, and indeed for your Jediquake mod if that is still available. I am well aware these are probably not being maintained anymore and won't work on versions of windows past xp, (I can put as much in the platform information), but if the game is still available obviously it's better people know even if they need to run with a virtual machine or whatever. If the game is now completely removed from the net I will simply list both pages license types as unknown as I have for things like the Bsc titles, but obviously that would be a less good option. Hope this makes sense. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman
The way to do it is to set up a configuration for the game, and then go into miscellaneous settings in settings, and enable sleep mode. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: 25 July 2014 22:28 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman No, that just shuts off speech. It has nothing to do with the keyboard hook. Oh freddled gruntbuggly, thy micturations are to me as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee. GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes, And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles, or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't! -Original Message- From: Nicol Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 2:54 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman Hi tom Well, in jaws15 you press alt plus windows key plus s to mute the speech but I don't know if that will remove the keyboard hook while playing games. I know for sure it mutes speech until you switch focus to another application. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: 25 July 2014 12:36 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Screen Readers and Games was the Blind Swordsman Hi Dark, That's a good question, and I'm not sure I'm the right person to ask. I rarely use Jaws any more myself. That said, I do know in the versions of Jaws I've used I can't just flick speech on and off the way I can with NVDA or the way you can with Supernova. At least, that has been my experience. there may be a way to do what you want to do, but I'm just not familiar with any current Jaws releases to give you an answer without downloading the Jaws demo, installing it, and playing around with it to find out if what you are asking is possible or not. In NVDA one can press insert+s until it disables speech or enables speech which is quick and easy. Cheers! --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] a new game audio speed.
Hi D, The reports on the audiogames forum aren't very positive at the moment, i.e. it doesn't appear to have had much beta testing. This would be fine if it were free, but it costs about 26 USD! -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 22 July 2014 09:04 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a new game audio speed. It certainly will get an entry, although it's a little hard for me to say anything informative about the game I've not played and there are still several important things that still need adding to the db since it's been uneditable recently and I've been out of circulation myself. Audiospeed will get an entry I just don't know when at this point. All the best, dark. - Original Message - From: ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 3:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a new game audio speed. I have a request MR Dark please put this game in your audio games data base. Ishan On 7/22/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: As far as I know Audio speed works on all versions of windows from xp to 8 so you shouldn't have any problems there. It's a new release after all. As to the game itself I'm not sure sinse I've not got it yet. Beware the grue! DArk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Where is the database (was a new game audio speed.)
D, I'm pretty new to this list. Where is the database? Thanks, David. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 22 July 2014 12:21 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a new game audio speed. Hi david. I know reports haven't been good thus far, though I've not tried the game myself so I can't confirm or deny. However whether games get entries on the db isn't dictated by how good they are or whether people like them. The db is supposed to be a general overview and ideally shoulod have everything in it (though with the amount of games that are constantly being brought out this is unlikely ever to be finished). As long as the game is accessible via audio ie, playable by a blind person with as much or as little effort as a sighted person, and as long as the game is a full version and not a practice game, it will eventually get a page, though when this is might be another matter. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: David Reynolds dkreyno...@ntlworld.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a new game audio speed. Hi D, The reports on the audiogames forum aren't very positive at the moment, i.e. it doesn't appear to have had much beta testing. This would be fine if it were free, but it costs about 26 USD! -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 22 July 2014 09:04 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a new game audio speed. It certainly will get an entry, although it's a little hard for me to say anything informative about the game I've not played and there are still several important things that still need adding to the db since it's been uneditable recently and I've been out of circulation myself. Audiospeed will get an entry I just don't know when at this point. All the best, dark. - Original Message - From: ishan dhami ishan1dha...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 3:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a new game audio speed. I have a request MR Dark please put this game in your audio games data base. Ishan On 7/22/14, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: As far as I know Audio speed works on all versions of windows from xp to 8 so you shouldn't have any problems there. It's a new release after all. As to the game itself I'm not sure sinse I've not got it yet. Beware the grue! DArk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail
Re: [Audyssey] The blind swordsman, an audiogame with interesting mechanics
Select story mode, and then select level 1. You're good to go, -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Christina Sent: 12 July 2014 21:01 To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] The blind swordsman, an audiogame with interesting mechanics Um, kind of a dumb question. I don't see a Start option on the main menu. I hit everything AI can think of and the game won't begin. How do I start? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 12:40 PM To: Gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] The blind swordsman, an audiogame with interesting mechanics Hi. This is to anyone who hasn't seen this one over at audiogames.net It's an action game where you play a warrior who has become blind and is seaking a warlock to help him get his site back. You have a sword and shield, but the game is very much anime enspired with armies of attacking warriors, dagger wielding psychotic women, and archers who's arrows you can cut out of the air (yes it's that awsome). The music, sounds and story are great, however what really impresses me about this one is the gameplay. it is extremely simple, move left and right, up arrow to attack, down arrow to parry, and should by rights be just another sterrio target boppit affair. I am however extremely impressed by the way the game works mechanically. You can't just automaticaly block every attack and then respond with a hit, there are opponents you need to attack first, some others you need to attack slightly before they do etc. Actually the mechanics are far closer o those of a beatemup in terms of timing and response even though the enemies only have one attack each and you have only one block and one attack to play with. I'd definitely advise developers interested in creating more subtle audiogames to have a look at this one, sinse it takes that very simple idea we've all seen time after time, but manages to make it mechanically much more interesting and adds just those elements of judgement which I've been wittering on about, indeed I am quite surprised it was possible in such a basically simple game. The story and sounds are also great too (the enemies are just so evil). Either way I'll stop wittering and say where to get it. The game was originally designed to run on a game play website in flash, but getting that one to work was a bit of a pest so the author has provided a direct download: http://www.evildogserver.com/theblindswordsman/theblindswordsmanPC.zip I'll be adding this one to the database when the developer sends me more information. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] mainstream pack man question
Dark, Terrific explanation! David. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 08 July 2014 15:15 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] mainstream pack man question Hi Nicol. Well I still occasionally play packman with my limited vision, although it's not the easiest game to play with low visual field. the first answer is yes, Phil included the ghosts in packman talks precisely because they're in mainstream packman. The second answer is a little harder because packman being a very old game never had particularly specific ghraphics that give a clear sense of things, so the ghosts in mainstream packman were just sort of undistinguished shapes in redd, green or blue with eyes and a mouth, just the same way packman himself is basically just like a circle with a bit cutout (imagine a pizza with a slice missing). This lack of detail in older graphics is a little hard to explain if you've not had sight, and even to me, who has limited vision and needs to pretty much guess at what things are it is a somewhat difficult concept but I will try to explain. In Sansens carnival of the animals he makes the sound of a lion raw by playing a long chromatic run up and down several octives of the piano. Well, that as compared to the real sound of a lion raw is rather like the old atari style graphics compared to real objects. It's a sort of vague outline. if you weren't told that the ghosts were ghosts you probably wouldn't know what they were. Hope that sort of makes sense. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] BSC games with new computer
Hello, I apologize if this is not strictly within the remit of the list, as it may be regarded as hacking, but I don't think so. I can no longer run my BSC games, and the unlock code utility is no longer available. I'd be grateful if anyone can tell me a way around this. I'm sure that this has come up before. Many thanks for any help, David. Very best, David Reynolds. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Accessible Cribbage: Board Game and iOS
I don't know of any accessible versions of this game, but the peg board and cards are accessible out of the box. Normal playing cards are used, David. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: 05 July 2014 07:44 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Accessible Cribbage: Board Game and iOS Hi, all I have a friend who likes cribbage and would like to introduce me to it. I also was reminded that my sister played it when she was younger and is re-learning. Anyhow, I'm interested in finding accessible iOS versions and/or board games. Anyone have ideas? By the way, I am totally blind and use Braille, though I don't know if that's a factor. Are the cards standard playing cards? I can Braille those. Is the peg board accessible as is? Thanks, Teresa We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] BSC games with new computer
This type of situation should never have arisen in the first place. If the company was closing down, all those who'd previously purchased games should have been sent patches to enable them to run on all computers. Pretty shabby really, David. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: 06 July 2014 17:39 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BSC games with new computer True. Oh freddled gruntbuggly, thy micturations are to me as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee. GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes, And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles, or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't! -Original Message- From: Thomas Ward Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 9:18 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BSC games with new computer Hi, Actually, it wouldn't take building an accessible console. We just need to find an economical way to make selling game's on disc profitable for commercial game developers. The main reason companies such as Draconis no longer ship their game's on CD is because it costs a lot of money to do, and there is not enough interest in buying game's on CD or DVD to make it economical for VI game developers to do it instead of downloads. The main reason ESP, Adora, now Draconis could do that say 10 to 15 years ago is that most people were on dial-up internet and it was worth the customers time to just order a copy on disc since a large game or several games took too much time to download. Now with the rise of high-speed internet via cable and dish there is less desire or a need to wait days for a copy of said game to come in the mail when they can download it, order it, and have their key in a matter of a few minutes. Thus selling games on physical media such as ours is commercial suicide because there is not enough interest or desire to pay more for games on CD when they want it via a quick and easy download. Cheers! On 7/6/14, Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net wrote: If only the audio gaming market had the money to market its own console. Then maybe we wouldn't have to do that anymore. Oh freddled gruntbuggly, thy micturations are to me as plurdled gabbleblotchits on a lurgid bee. GroupI implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes, And hooptiously drangle me with crinkly bindlewurdles, or I will rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon, see if I don't! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
