Re: [Audyssey] Good iPhone games for Voiceover user
I use Google drive all the time it works great for me Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Dakotah Rickard dakotah.rick...@gmail.com wrote: It may be that Google catches up with apple in terms of accessibility for their mainline apps, and I'm glad that you are having good luck with apps you've installed from the Goog Store, but the sad and simple fact is that there are lots of accessibility holes in the basic architecture of the Android framework that will need to be fixed before it is accessible in the same way that the IOS framework is accessible. Let me put it to you this way. There are a lot of apps, both on Android OS and IOS that are inaccessible, but there are more apps on IOS that are accessible just because the Apple framework is accessible. What I mean is that the app maker didn't have to sit there and try to make their product Voiceover compliant. That's why, if you go on AppleVis, you'll find a lot of apps that are labeled as workable if you can tolerate a bit of confusion or put in a bit of work. In the Android framework, as I understand it, accessible is something which must be created in the apps. The apps aren't, by nature, accessible until someone does something to make them less so. True, in both systems, a developer can very easily cut corners which make apps inaccessible, but the Apple framework tends toward making apps at least partially accessible, just because of its nature and setup. I want to put this forward as a thought about Google. The Apple maps app is more than accessible, even if it's a bit confusing from time to time, but it works. I can read maps on my phone, which, let me tell you, is a huge deal for me. The google maps app, basically it isn't worth putting on, because it sucks in terms of accessibility. The Dropbox app is accessible. Google drive isn't. Safari is accessible, and though I haven't tried Google Chrome because I'm more than pleased with Safari, I've heard that it doesn't do as good a job in terms of accessibility. The GMail app is reasonable, but it's a bit confusing from time to time, whereas the built-in mail app does the same job and is much more manageable. Basically, if Google doesn't take the time and put in the effort to make apps accessible on devices which actively promote good accessibility, I don't have a great deal of faith that they're going to clean up the mess they've made of the accessibility in their own devices. Google just doesn't place accessibility at as high of a priority as does Apple, so even if the phone is eventually accessible, even if the Nexus does gain accessibility features after a couple of years, by that point, you're probably already going to at least be considering whether or not you want a new phone, while those who bought an IOS device are seeing new and improved accessibility features with each major update. Frankly, I make myself wonder from time to time. I used to highly dislike Apple, and there are still plenty of things about their strategies that I am less fond of. I think that their marketing plan is based on hyping little details and concealing larger ones to wow the launch crowd, which I dislike. I think that they charge too much for device repairs and warranties. I think that they might, eventually, get snowed under by the simply massive amount of Android devices. But I love, and I'll say it again, love the fact that having an iPhone has given me independence. I can buy a GPS app that does me a little better in terms of accessibility and features that are specific to the needs of a visually impaired person, but frankly I don't see much of a need, because what's already there is pretty darn good. Android is a risk that might pay off really nicely, but IOS is an investment in a steady product that is going to appreciate over time with that self same steadiness. I know this message has been long, and I also know that I'm nothing in terms of knowledge on physical Android products, but I hope that it is helpful and concise. Good luck, and good hunting. Signed: Dakotah Rickard On 1/7/13, Valiant8086 valiant8...@lavabit.com wrote: Hi. I'd go with Android, but my reasons don't line up with everyone Else's. 1. So you can write games for me to play on mine. 2. I got mine because I can change the speech. I can't understand any of the voices available on iOS. I have much better luck with ESpeak with my hearing problem. 3. I also got mine because of a physical keyboard, but that won't apply to the Nexus 4. 4. Not sure where folks are coming from that say you'd only be able to use Android as a basic phone. I have many apps on mine, from Zello to Voxer to HayTell and Skype and Dropbox and mos of them work flawlessly in terms of accessibility even on Android 4.0.4, which is what I use. 5. I don't think most of the other commenters have tried 4.2 yet. I haven't either myself, but it appears to work pretty
Re: [Audyssey] ChangeReaction 2.1.0 is released with user requestedfeatures
What is this chain reaction to Game you talking about Sent from my iPhone On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Desiree Oudinot turtlepowe...@gmail.com wrote: Lol, I was thinking the same thing. I'm very much looking forward to the Windows version. On 1/8/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Request for a Windows version? (grin) --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Draconis Entertainment gene...@draconisentertainment.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 6:43 PM Subject: [Audyssey] ChangeReaction 2.1.0 is released with user requestedfeatures Thanks for your tremendous feedback! We've incorporated some of your feature requests into this update. • At the end of play, you are given the opportunity to hear your final score and ranking repeated. • If less than one second remains on the clock when the board is cleared, the time remaining announcement displays with milliseconds included. • The game instructions have been expanded with a reference section for the coin denominations used in ChangeReaction, which also includes fun facts about each coin. Bet you didn't know all of these! • The Escape key now interrupts text-to-speech announcements in most places. • If VoiceOver is active, the graphical logo contains a Accessibility Help Tag which describes it in some detail. • Various minor fixes. Version 2.1.0 is now in the Mac App Store, though it occasionally takes time for it to propagate to all corners of the globe. If you have other feature requests, feel free to let us know. We can't do it all, but if we get enough requests for a good feature idea, it will b considered, as these were. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Good iPhone games for Voiceover user
I got 2 games there last night Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2013, at 6:04 AM, Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net wrote: Hi Taylor, I have a page of blind friendly iPhone games at, http://www.pcsgames.net/iPhoneGames.htm Phil --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Good iPhone games for Voiceover user
I Couldn't get GMA games to work on my phone I had to create an account In the Site wouldn't let me are you sure they're not Computer games Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dark, Thanks for the correction. I knew Legend of Dragon Pass sounded wrong, but for the life of me couldn't think of the correct name off the top of my head. However, the game is something encouraging me to buy an iPhone as it sounds like something I'd truly enjoy. On 1/6/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Actually tom the game is king of dragon pass. it has a page on www.audiogames.net. i'd also recommend the lost cities card game and the gamebooks from choiceofgames, though I've not tried many more myself yet since I've only just got my Iphone and a still in process of trying different gmaes out myself. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Online uno game
Is there blind accessible uno online Or for my iPhone Sent from my iPhone --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Good iPhone games for Voiceover user
Does anybody know any good iPhone games for voiceover users I Arity have a couple that I Artie have installed I would like To have some suggestions Sent from my iPhone --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.