Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-11 Thread BRYAN PETERSON
Heck. I'll often get out one of my childhood favorites like E.T. or
The Goonies just for nostalgia. So I can definitely see were you're
coming from.

On 2/11/12, Thomas Ward  wrote:
> HI Dark,
>
> Yeah. I've had to discover that truth myself. It took becoming a
> father to teach me that lesson.
>
> For example, I grew up in the 70's and 80's and played with action
> figures such as Star Wars, He Man, G.I. Joe, etc. Although, I still
> collected some action figures like Star Trek and Star wars into
> adulthood after I was around 12 or 13 years old I would have said
> playing with toys is childish and adults don't do that sort of thing.
> So I gave up some of my care free innocents.
>
> Well, years later I had a son, and like me he likes playing G.I. Joe,
> Batman, and other action figures. Since there aren't a lot of kids
> around here his own age I often get down on the floor and play action
> figures with him for a little while. I have discovered it is still
> fun, entertaining, and it doesn't seem as childish as I once thought.
>
> Same goes for cartoons. They now have new Transformer cartoons, new
> Thunder Cat cartoons, etc and I still enjoy listening to them. In
> fact, sometimes I'd rather watch cartoons than some of the other stuff
> on TV for adults. So some times it is fun going back and regaining
> some of my lost childhood and care free innocents.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
>
> On 2/9/12, dark  wrote:
>> Hi tom.
>>
>> I'd actually go further,  not with the puff eating jack plot, but with
>> the innocence thing.
>>
>> you talked about as an adult "learning that life is not so carefree as you
>> think when your a child",  well I would say one of the hardest, but
>> most
>> valuable lessons to learn is that actually it is!
>>
>> It requires a much more impennitrable atitude to various troubles, the
>> ability to be highly relaxed within the moment and not care about a lot of
>> various concerns such as what others think of you, but actually it is!
>> just
>> as possible.
>>
>> This isn't to say you should go back to the actually far nastier ways of
>> childhood that you might have unlearned, sinse childhood also can involve
>> a
>> huge amount of cruelty and selfishness as well, in fact in one sense Puff
>> the magic dragon, peter pan and similar ideas have a very ideal and one
>> sided view of childhood that is far from true, sinse some children, 
>> indeed some aspects of even the most decent children can be utter
>> bastards!
>>
>> There were things I did to other people as a child that I am certainly not
>> proud of and wouldn't do now.
>>
>> So to finish this off, innocence I've begun to realize is a state
>> independent of age. Perhaps some children have it in some degree, perhaps
>> not, but it's  a state that can only really be understood with life
>> experience.
>>
>> I know that my view currently is very much based on the fact that my past
>> few years have been extremely difficult ones for various deeply personal
>> reasons which I absolutely will not discuss. While I'd not wish anyone to
>> go
>> through that, i do hope I've learnt something.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Dark.
>>
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-11 Thread Thomas Ward
HI Dark,

Yeah. I've had to discover that truth myself. It took becoming a
father to teach me that lesson.

For example, I grew up in the 70's and 80's and played with action
figures such as Star Wars, He Man, G.I. Joe, etc. Although, I still
collected some action figures like Star Trek and Star wars into
adulthood after I was around 12 or 13 years old I would have said
playing with toys is childish and adults don't do that sort of thing.
So I gave up some of my care free innocents.

Well, years later I had a son, and like me he likes playing G.I. Joe,
Batman, and other action figures. Since there aren't a lot of kids
around here his own age I often get down on the floor and play action
figures with him for a little while. I have discovered it is still
fun, entertaining, and it doesn't seem as childish as I once thought.

Same goes for cartoons. They now have new Transformer cartoons, new
Thunder Cat cartoons, etc and I still enjoy listening to them. In
fact, sometimes I'd rather watch cartoons than some of the other stuff
on TV for adults. So some times it is fun going back and regaining
some of my lost childhood and care free innocents.

Cheers!




On 2/9/12, dark  wrote:
> Hi tom.
>
> I'd actually go further,  not with the puff eating jack plot, but with
> the innocence thing.
>
> you talked about as an adult "learning that life is not so carefree as you
> think when your a child",  well I would say one of the hardest, but most
> valuable lessons to learn is that actually it is!
>
> It requires a much more impennitrable atitude to various troubles, the
> ability to be highly relaxed within the moment and not care about a lot of
> various concerns such as what others think of you, but actually it is! just
> as possible.
>
> This isn't to say you should go back to the actually far nastier ways of
> childhood that you might have unlearned, sinse childhood also can involve a
> huge amount of cruelty and selfishness as well, in fact in one sense Puff
> the magic dragon, peter pan and similar ideas have a very ideal and one
> sided view of childhood that is far from true, sinse some children, 
> indeed some aspects of even the most decent children can be utter bastards!
>
> There were things I did to other people as a child that I am certainly not
> proud of and wouldn't do now.
>
> So to finish this off, innocence I've begun to realize is a state
> independent of age. Perhaps some children have it in some degree, perhaps
> not, but it's  a state that can only really be understood with life
> experience.
>
> I know that my view currently is very much based on the fact that my past
> few years have been extremely difficult ones for various deeply personal
> reasons which I absolutely will not discuss. While I'd not wish anyone to go
> through that, i do hope I've learnt something.
>
> All the best,
>
> Dark.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-11 Thread Ben
Lol


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I don't want to smoke anything either, you can keep those cigars  At
09:16 p.m. 8/02/2012 -0500, you wrote:
>I can't wait for the dragon to speak.
>as long as it's name is not Puff, the magic dragon who lived by the 
>sea, And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honah Lee.
>I don't want to play any game with frolicking.
>smiles,
>Phil
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Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-09 Thread dark

Hi tom.

I'd actually go further,  not with the puff eating jack plot, but with 
the innocence thing.


you talked about as an adult "learning that life is not so carefree as you 
think when your a child",  well I would say one of the hardest, but most 
valuable lessons to learn is that actually it is!


It requires a much more impennitrable atitude to various troubles, the 
ability to be highly relaxed within the moment and not care about a lot of 
various concerns such as what others think of you, but actually it is! just 
as possible.


This isn't to say you should go back to the actually far nastier ways of 
childhood that you might have unlearned, sinse childhood also can involve a 
huge amount of cruelty and selfishness as well, in fact in one sense Puff 
the magic dragon, peter pan and similar ideas have a very ideal and one 
sided view of childhood that is far from true, sinse some children,   
indeed some aspects of even the most decent children can be utter bastards!


There were things I did to other people as a child that I am certainly not 
proud of and wouldn't do now.


So to finish this off, innocence I've begun to realize is a state 
independent of age. Perhaps some children have it in some degree, perhaps 
not, but it's  a state that can only really be understood with life 
experience.


I know that my view currently is very much based on the fact that my past 
few years have been extremely difficult ones for various deeply personal 
reasons which I absolutely will not discuss. While I'd not wish anyone to go 
through that, i do hope I've learnt something.


All the best,

Dark. 



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Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,

Lol! Puff eating Jack. That would be an interesting if very classic
Greek ending to the story. :D

Seriously, though, I agree. that innocence doesn't have to completely
disappear when you grow up. Yes, when we grow up part of being an
adult is learning life isn't so care free, that things are not always
as they seem as a child, but we can regain some of that innocence if
we want it. We don't have to completely give it up because we are
older and wiser now than we were as children.Some times I think we put
too much of a divide between adulthood and childhood that we forget we
still need time to play, to see good in the world, and to let the
child inside out for a while.

Cheers!


On 2/9/12, dark  wrote:
> I agree Haiden.
>
> In fact I've always wanted to write a final verse of puff the magic dragon
> myself, to the effect that after Jacky paper grew up, he finally grew up
> some more and realized that actually he still! needed his friend puff from
> time to time.
>
> myself as someone who is 29 but still loves disney films, fantasy games and
> the like, I'm absolutely of the opinion that innocence isn't something you
> have as a child but then grow up and automatically lose, but something that
> if you are wise, you will hang onto, or can regain yourself if you should
> ever lose it, even if regaining this can be hard.
>
> in fact myself, I can't actually think of too many things I did as a child
> that I wouldn't! enjoy doing now, indeed in some ways now I am even better
> able to enjoy being a child because I'm old enough to appreciate it! :D.
>
> So, I've considdered writing a propper! ending for puff the magic dragon in
> which an older Jack turns up again needing his friend.
>
> Either that or puff gets quite justifyably irritated at his so called
> friend, and after deciding enough is enough, flies down to jack and says
>
> "I'll show you who's imaginary!"
>
> And then eats him! :D.
>
> Beware the Grue!
>
> dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-09 Thread dark

I agree Haiden.

In fact I've always wanted to write a final verse of puff the magic dragon 
myself, to the effect that after Jacky paper grew up, he finally grew up 
some more and realized that actually he still! needed his friend puff from 
time to time.


myself as someone who is 29 but still loves disney films, fantasy games and 
the like, I'm absolutely of the opinion that innocence isn't something you 
have as a child but then grow up and automatically lose, but something that 
if you are wise, you will hang onto, or can regain yourself if you should 
ever lose it, even if regaining this can be hard.


in fact myself, I can't actually think of too many things I did as a child 
that I wouldn't! enjoy doing now, indeed in some ways now I am even better 
able to enjoy being a child because I'm old enough to appreciate it! :D.


So, I've considdered writing a propper! ending for puff the magic dragon in 
which an older Jack turns up again needing his friend.


Either that or puff gets quite justifyably irritated at his so called 
friend, and after deciding enough is enough, flies down to jack and says


"I'll show you who's imaginary!"

And then eats him! :D.

Beware the Grue!

dark.
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Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-09 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
I'd rather take this kind of discussion off list, but it is a farely common
miscomception that Puff the Magic Dragon was about drugs: the actual theme
was the loss of innocence and childhood.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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I don't want to smoke anything either, you can keep those cigars

At 09:16 p.m. 8/02/2012 -0500, you wrote:
>I can't wait for the dragon to speak.
>as long as it's name is not Puff, the magic dragon who lived by the 
>sea, And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honah Lee.
>I don't want to play any game with frolicking.
>smiles,
>Phil
>
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Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-09 Thread shaun everiss

I don't want to smoke anything either, you can keep those cigars

At 09:16 p.m. 8/02/2012 -0500, you wrote:

I can't wait for the dragon to speak.
as long as it's name is not Puff, the magic dragon who lived by the 
sea, And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honah Lee.

I don't want to play any game with frolicking.
smiles,
Phil


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Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-09 Thread shaun everiss

ok, now I am in suspence.
At 07:11 p.m. 8/02/2012 -0500, you wrote:

#2

08/February/2012

The dragon listens. The dragon hears. It is not yet time for the 
dragon to speak, but that time will come. It draws ever closer.


Something never seen shall soon be hatched,
But first rebirth of that which matched…
Something old, something new,
'tis not spam, it's a clue…
No more are ancient relics patched.

Driven hard to make the haul,
A famous country canon ball…
The dragon will again be seen,
Before four and five tenth's nineteen,
The biggest things must start out small…


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Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-08 Thread Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews

True. April sounds right.
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My guess is April since it said four. March would be three.

On 2/8/12, Charles Rivard  wrote:

In such a game, you might have to rob Peter to pay Paul.  And, of course,
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I can't wait for the dragon to speak.
as long as it's name is not Puff, the magic dragon who lived by the sea,
And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honah Lee.
I don't want to play any game with frolicking.
smiles,
Phil


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Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-08 Thread BRYAN PETERSON
My guess is April since it said four. March would be three.

On 2/8/12, Charles Rivard  wrote:
> In such a game, you might have to rob Peter to pay Paul.  And, of course,
> your character is Mary.
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>> as long as it's name is not Puff, the magic dragon who lived by the sea,
>> And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honah Lee.
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>> smiles,
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Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-08 Thread Charles Rivard
In such a game, you might have to rob Peter to pay Paul.  And, of course, 
your character is Mary.


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I can't wait for the dragon to speak.
as long as it's name is not Puff, the magic dragon who lived by the sea, 
And frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honah Lee.

I don't want to play any game with frolicking.
smiles,
Phil


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Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-08 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
Too bad that. Maybe you could give Jackie Paper and Puff a happy ending. Lol

Best Regards,
Hayden


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I can't wait for the dragon to speak.
as long as it's name is not Puff, the magic dragon who lived by the sea, And

frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honah Lee.
I don't want to play any game with frolicking.
smiles,
Phil


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Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-08 Thread Phil Vlasak

I can't wait for the dragon to speak.
as long as it's name is not Puff, the magic dragon who lived by the sea, And 
frolicked in the autumn mist in a land called Honah Lee.

I don't want to play any game with frolicking.
smiles,
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Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-08 Thread dark
cool! I can't wait, especially sinse this sounds like a redesign of an old 
title completely anew.


I was also very amused at the comment about this not being spam, the Dragon 
obviously does! listen :D.


Beware the grue!

Dark.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 12:11 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens


#2

08/February/2012

The dragon listens. The dragon hears. It is not yet time for the dragon to 
speak, but that time will come. It draws ever closer.


Something never seen shall soon be hatched,
But first rebirth of that which matched…
Something old, something new,
'tis not spam, it's a clue…
No more are ancient relics patched.

Driven hard to make the haul,
A famous country canon ball…
The dragon will again be seen,
Before four and five tenth's nineteen,
The biggest things must start out small…


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Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-08 Thread Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews

That's what it sounds like.
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Hmm. Just a hunch, but that message implies that the announcement is coming 
in March. Before four and five tenths nineteen. Guess that may mean before 
March 10 or 19. Not exactly sure though.


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On Feb 8, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Draconis Entertainment wrote:


#2

08/February/2012

The dragon listens. The dragon hears. It is not yet time for the dragon to 
speak, but that time will come. It draws ever closer.


Something never seen shall soon be hatched,
But first rebirth of that which matched…
Something old, something new,
'tis not spam, it's a clue…
No more are ancient relics patched.

Driven hard to make the haul,
A famous country canon ball…
The dragon will again be seen,
Before four and five tenth's nineteen,
The biggest things must start out small…


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Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-08 Thread Orin
Hmm. Just a hunch, but that message implies that the announcement is coming in 
March. Before four and five tenths nineteen. Guess that may mean before March 
10 or 19. Not exactly sure though.

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On Feb 8, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Draconis Entertainment wrote:

> #2
> 
> 08/February/2012
> 
> The dragon listens. The dragon hears. It is not yet time for the dragon to 
> speak, but that time will come. It draws ever closer.
> 
> Something never seen shall soon be hatched,
> But first rebirth of that which matched…
> Something old, something new,
> 'tis not spam, it's a clue…
> No more are ancient relics patched.
> 
> Driven hard to make the haul,
> A famous country canon ball…
> The dragon will again be seen,
> Before four and five tenth's nineteen,
> The biggest things must start out small…
> 
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Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-08 Thread Charles Rivard

I'm anxious to hear the dragon's roar once again!

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Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 6:11 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens


#2

08/February/2012

The dragon listens. The dragon hears. It is not yet time for the dragon to 
speak, but that time will come. It draws ever closer.


Something never seen shall soon be hatched,
But first rebirth of that which matched…
Something old, something new,
'tis not spam, it's a clue…
No more are ancient relics patched.

Driven hard to make the haul,
A famous country canon ball…
The dragon will again be seen,
Before four and five tenth's nineteen,
The biggest things must start out small…


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Re: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-08 Thread Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews

Cool and poetic.
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- Original Message - 
From: "Draconis Entertainment" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 7:11 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] The Dragon Listens


#2

08/February/2012

The dragon listens. The dragon hears. It is not yet time for the dragon to 
speak, but that time will come. It draws ever closer.


Something never seen shall soon be hatched,
But first rebirth of that which matched…
Something old, something new,
'tis not spam, it's a clue…
No more are ancient relics patched.

Driven hard to make the haul,
A famous country canon ball…
The dragon will again be seen,
Before four and five tenth's nineteen,
The biggest things must start out small…


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[Audyssey] The Dragon Listens

2012-02-08 Thread Draconis Entertainment
#2

08/February/2012

The dragon listens. The dragon hears. It is not yet time for the dragon to 
speak, but that time will come. It draws ever closer.

Something never seen shall soon be hatched,
But first rebirth of that which matched…
Something old, something new,
'tis not spam, it's a clue…
No more are ancient relics patched.

Driven hard to make the haul,
A famous country canon ball…
The dragon will again be seen,
Before four and five tenth's nineteen,
The biggest things must start out small…


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