Re: [Audyssey] To Dark regarding godville
Google are really getting worse. I have trouble with their captures and they've changed how to manage Google groups as well. It's enfuriating. Amanda -- From: dark d...@xgam.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:57 PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] To Dark regarding godville Hi Al. i've had a word with the developers. The bad news is they can't change the capture, sinse it's a standard google one and it's google who've changed their system. I've attempted to contact google about this, sinse while I found their old captures doable with decent headphones, their new ones aren't, and an accessibility option that is utterly unusuable is no good at all. it was a pain in the kneck to track down google's contact address though, and their phone number wasn't working at all so i don't hold out great hopes there, quite ironic as I rememb er at one time E-mailing google support was incredibly easy. As to Godville though, the developers are willing to invite people to create accounts, which avoids the capture, so that's a good way around. As to the game, i think I see the problem, sinse rather than using standard controls on the pages they've simply got text that can be clicked on, so for instance to encourage you literally need to just mouse click on the word encourage it's not a button or a link or anything. With Hal this is doable, but I can see why it would be a problem with other programs. i suggest you just tell them in as honest a way as possible what is not working, and suggest a fix, particularly if you've seen a similar sight that does the same thing and so can give a reference. In general the game sort of reminds me of progress quest, but a more serious version. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net To: gamers discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:26 PM Subject: [Audyssey] To Dark regarding godville Hey Dark, I got trimmed (I am so ashamed) so I just wanted to say that I agree with you completely on that score. I am also thinking about contacting the game developers about certain things on the web browser side of the game about some of the controls, although I have no idea how to tell them the proper way to fix it to make it more accessible. Any hints on that? al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] To Dark regarding godville
What about having the text as buttons? I haven't played the game but my thinking here is that if it's just clickable text which jaws/wineyes doesn't always handle well, what about having the text there still but as a button? At least then the screen reader will be able to access it. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 24 July 2012 16:57 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] To Dark regarding godville Hi Al. i've had a word with the developers. The bad news is they can't change the capture, sinse it's a standard google one and it's google who've changed their system. I've attempted to contact google about this, sinse while I found their old captures doable with decent headphones, their new ones aren't, and an accessibility option that is utterly unusuable is no good at all. it was a pain in the kneck to track down google's contact address though, and their phone number wasn't working at all so i don't hold out great hopes there, quite ironic as I rememb er at one time E-mailing google support was incredibly easy. As to Godville though, the developers are willing to invite people to create accounts, which avoids the capture, so that's a good way around. As to the game, i think I see the problem, sinse rather than using standard controls on the pages they've simply got text that can be clicked on, so for instance to encourage you literally need to just mouse click on the word encourage it's not a button or a link or anything. With Hal this is doable, but I can see why it would be a problem with other programs. i suggest you just tell them in as honest a way as possible what is not working, and suggest a fix, particularly if you've seen a similar sight that does the same thing and so can give a reference. In general the game sort of reminds me of progress quest, but a more serious version. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net To: gamers discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:26 PM Subject: [Audyssey] To Dark regarding godville Hey Dark, I got trimmed (I am so ashamed) so I just wanted to say that I agree with you completely on that score. I am also thinking about contacting the game developers about certain things on the web browser side of the game about some of the controls, although I have no idea how to tell them the proper way to fix it to make it more accessible. Any hints on that? al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] To Dark regarding godville
Yep, that would work, and also be quicker with Hal sinse I'd not need to find the text directly and click on it but could use tab or b to go to next button, but again you'd have to ask the developers of the game. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] To Dark regarding godville What about having the text as buttons? I haven't played the game but my thinking here is that if it's just clickable text which jaws/wineyes doesn't always handle well, what about having the text there still but as a button? At least then the screen reader will be able to access it. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of dark Sent: 24 July 2012 16:57 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] To Dark regarding godville Hi Al. i've had a word with the developers. The bad news is they can't change the capture, sinse it's a standard google one and it's google who've changed their system. I've attempted to contact google about this, sinse while I found their old captures doable with decent headphones, their new ones aren't, and an accessibility option that is utterly unusuable is no good at all. it was a pain in the kneck to track down google's contact address though, and their phone number wasn't working at all so i don't hold out great hopes there, quite ironic as I rememb er at one time E-mailing google support was incredibly easy. As to Godville though, the developers are willing to invite people to create accounts, which avoids the capture, so that's a good way around. As to the game, i think I see the problem, sinse rather than using standard controls on the pages they've simply got text that can be clicked on, so for instance to encourage you literally need to just mouse click on the word encourage it's not a button or a link or anything. With Hal this is doable, but I can see why it would be a problem with other programs. i suggest you just tell them in as honest a way as possible what is not working, and suggest a fix, particularly if you've seen a similar sight that does the same thing and so can give a reference. In general the game sort of reminds me of progress quest, but a more serious version. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net To: gamers discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:26 PM Subject: [Audyssey] To Dark regarding godville Hey Dark, I got trimmed (I am so ashamed) so I just wanted to say that I agree with you completely on that score. I am also thinking about contacting the game developers about certain things on the web browser side of the game about some of the controls, although I have no idea how to tell them the proper way to fix it to make it more accessible. Any hints on that? al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management
[Audyssey] To Dark regarding godville
Hey Dark, I got trimmed (I am so ashamed) so I just wanted to say that I agree with you completely on that score. I am also thinking about contacting the game developers about certain things on the web browser side of the game about some of the controls, although I have no idea how to tell them the proper way to fix it to make it more accessible. Any hints on that? al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] To Dark regarding godville
Hi Al. i've had a word with the developers. The bad news is they can't change the capture, sinse it's a standard google one and it's google who've changed their system. I've attempted to contact google about this, sinse while I found their old captures doable with decent headphones, their new ones aren't, and an accessibility option that is utterly unusuable is no good at all. it was a pain in the kneck to track down google's contact address though, and their phone number wasn't working at all so i don't hold out great hopes there, quite ironic as I rememb er at one time E-mailing google support was incredibly easy. As to Godville though, the developers are willing to invite people to create accounts, which avoids the capture, so that's a good way around. As to the game, i think I see the problem, sinse rather than using standard controls on the pages they've simply got text that can be clicked on, so for instance to encourage you literally need to just mouse click on the word encourage it's not a button or a link or anything. With Hal this is doable, but I can see why it would be a problem with other programs. i suggest you just tell them in as honest a way as possible what is not working, and suggest a fix, particularly if you've seen a similar sight that does the same thing and so can give a reference. In general the game sort of reminds me of progress quest, but a more serious version. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net To: gamers discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:26 PM Subject: [Audyssey] To Dark regarding godville Hey Dark, I got trimmed (I am so ashamed) so I just wanted to say that I agree with you completely on that score. I am also thinking about contacting the game developers about certain things on the web browser side of the game about some of the controls, although I have no idea how to tell them the proper way to fix it to make it more accessible. Any hints on that? al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://mail.audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
