Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-16 Thread Tom Randall
king for a serious alternative to Windows. Best regards, Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 4:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-04 Thread aiden gardiner
cussion list" Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista > Hi Louis, > Darragh has some very good audio podcasts on installing Linux, > configuring orca, and an an introduction to the Gnome graphical desktop. > His Ubuntu 8.04 step by

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-04 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Louis, Darragh has some very good audio podcasts on installing Linux, configuring orca, and an an introduction to the Gnome graphical desktop. His Ubuntu 8.04 step by step installation podcast is the best I have heard yet. To get his audio tutorials go to http://www.digitaldarragh.com/linuxat

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread shaun everiss
most stuff is writen for microsoft, and everything business has traditionally been ms. these things are hard to break. In india they are linux based. And well. At 05:19 a.m. 4/08/2008, you wrote: >Hi Trouble, >Well, what I meant to say is that I am confused as to wwhy people >continue to buy Micr

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread aiden gardiner
hi Louis, Go to http://www.digitaldarragh.com/linuxat.asp Hope this helps, Aiden - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 2:41 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista > Hi. Any guides ou

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread louis
t;Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista > Hi Trouble, > Well, what I meant to say is that I am confused as to wwhy people > continue to buy Microsoft products. Yeah, I know full well in the mid > 90's up u

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Trouble, Not true. Many Linux distributions such as Ubuntu are just as graphical as Windows. Both the KDE and Gnome desktops resembles MS Windows in a lot of ways.it is safe to say anyone who can use MS Windows can easily use a Linux distribution such as Ubuntu without too much of a learning

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Trouble
No, its the fact that at least 60% of the computer users are mousers, and don't know how to type. they were taught how just did think they would use or need it down the road. And the fact that linix is command line mostly and that kills if for those that don't like typing or don't spell. They g

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Nicol, Windows 3.1 was released around 1993. As for screen readers for 3.1 there was Jaws for Windows 1.x, Jaws 2.0, and Slimware Window Bridge. I believe the first versions of Window Eyes came out around that time as well. As for the question, "is anyone still running it," I certainly hope no

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread nicol
; Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista Hi Charles, It would be nice if Microsoft waited until their Windows releases were relatively stable before release, but their history has proven they always do otherwise. In 1995 Microsoft launched Windows 95 which was extremely

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Trouble, Well, what I meant to say is that I am confused as to wwhy people continue to buy Microsoft products. Yeah, I know full well in the mid 90's up until the last few years there wasn't much of a choice. However, that has changed now, but most people are not willing to switch even thoug

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan, It sure did. I was attending Wright State University for my Computer Science degree att the time, and I can remember someone recorded it for computer and telecommunication services as a demo for next years network upgrades. Needless to say none of the CATS techs were to happy about th

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Trouble
For a while the people had no choice in Microsoft products at least in ops, because they had contracts with all major manufacturers to be the op of PC's sold in stores and by dealers. Now we do have some what of a choice. At 08:47 AM 8/3/2008, you wrote: >Hi Charles, >It would be nice if Microso

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Bryan Peterson
Oh yeah. I think I remember now. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: "Trouble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista > That was

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Trouble
y dad about it. It actually made me laugh. >Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. >- Original Message - >From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gamers Discussion list" > >Sent: Sunda

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Bryan Peterson
From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Charles Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista > Hi Charles, > It would be nice if Microsoft waited until t

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jason, Quote If you're planning to program for multiple platforms, you're better off with another language however. Don't be fooled, the cross platform support early on in .NET is just smoke and mirrors. End quote What do you mean it is just smoke and mirrors? I'm using Mono 2 for Ubuntu Linu

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, It would be nice if Microsoft waited until their Windows releases were relatively stable before release, but their history has proven they always do otherwise. In 1995 Microsoft launched Windows 95 which was extremely unstable, was well known for major system crashes, and still used

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Claudio, I don't know. There are a lot of development similarities between games for the XBox 360 and Windows Vista/Windows 7. They both use XNA, they both use the .NET Framework, and the both are a type of Winhdows platform. One major diference is that the XBox games are designed with XInput

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Munawar, Well, from a programming standpoint DirectSound was replaced by XAudio2 in the March 2008 DirectX SDK, and DirectSound was placed in the deprecated list of development libraries for DirectX. What this means for developers like you and I DirectSound will likely be kept in the r

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-03 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Kevin, Thanks, I didn't think that there were games like Puppy1 or Homer on a Harley out there. Other than Monopoly version 8 Puppy1 and Homer on a Harley were my last two projects. So at least I am trying to give us new, exciting and different games to play. BFN - Original Message -

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-02 Thread will lomas
o get things right the first time, or at least > close. This > goes for any product. Customers will remember. > > --- > Pretty is as pretty does > - Original Message - > From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list"

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-02 Thread Jason Allen
Hi guys. I'm developing my RPG in XNA using .NET 3.5. As a developer, fighting change is pointless. You're better off embracing the new technology because it's only going to get progressively worse the longer you resist. DirectX has given way to XNA and XNA is a marvelous technology. If you're pla

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-02 Thread Charles Rivard
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista > Hi Kevin, > Well, Microsoft's best estimates say Windows 7 will be released in late > 2010. Although, if they encounter issues, bugs, whatever they may push > the release date back into 2011.

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-02 Thread Claudio
Hello Thomas! Is it also possible to play XBoxGames on windows 7? Regards, Claudio. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/g

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-02 Thread Munawar Bijani
cussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista The windows 7 will come out in 2010. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Kevin, Well, no one knows for sure what all is planned for Windows 7. Many of the people working on the Win 7 project are under signed non-disclosure agreements and are very hesitant to offer detailed information at this time. My own information is based on stuff I have picked up in reading

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Kevin, Well, Microsoft's best estimates say Windows 7 will be released in late 2010. Although, if they encounter issues, bugs, whatever they may push the release date back into 2011. Given ssuch a short development cycle between Vista and Windows 7 it sounds to me like Windows 7 is basically

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-02 Thread Kevin Weispfennig
Hi And what want to be the new features? Kevin -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.weisi4u.de Klango-Blog: http://kevinweisi.klango.net Klango-Username: kevinweisi Skype: Foerbye1996 Yahoo: kevinweisi MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 424-263-367 AIM: weispfennigkevin Handy: 0177 83 37 0

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-02 Thread Demetry
The windows 7 will come out in 2010. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived a

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-02 Thread Kevin Weispfennig
Hi, When cames the newst windows version out? Kevin -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.weisi4u.de Klango-Blog: http://kevinweisi.klango.net Klango-Username: kevinweisi Skype: Foerbye1996 Yahoo: kevinweisi MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 424-263-367 AIM: weispfennigkevin Handy: 0177 83

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-02 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Well, it is my experience most blind users will hang on to their XP and Vista machines for several years yet. Just because Windows 7 is bringing in a bunch of new changes it won't spell the end of blind audio gaming, because blind computer users have always been slow to change to the

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-02 Thread Kevin Weispfennig
Hi, I never heard from a game like homer on a harley like. And Puppy1? I really don't know. Kevin -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.weisi4u.de Klango-Blog: http://kevinweisi.klango.net Klango-Username: kevinweisi Skype: Foerbye1996 Yahoo: kevinweisi MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 4

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-02 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Shaun, I'm just curious, what games are Puppy1 like? and what games are Homer on a Harley like? Thanks - Original Message - you'd think so. Unfortunately most devs, excluding the new ones that have come in the last year or 2 and even then some of those including the old ones use old

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-01 Thread shaun everiss
you'd think so. Unfortunately most devs, excluding the new ones that have come in the last year or 2 and even then some of those including the old ones use old tech. Some are trying to upgrade others are not bothered to do that right now and others can't be bothered at all. Its the nature of the

Re: [Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-01 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, Like anything else it is a double edged sword. In terms of technology improvements XAudio2 has many advantages over DirectSound such as better 3d audio support, the ability to load and play wma files as well as wav files, etc. However, for the several games still using DirectSound 8

[Audyssey] Windows 7 versus Vista

2008-08-01 Thread Charles Rivard
Tom: You wrote: "Also for us programmers they are of course going to be removing many of the older libraries that have been around for ages, that are no longer needed, and are replacing them with the updated .NET Framework, XNA is going to basically replace DirectX as the core gaming API, and var