Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-09-11 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
the reason why. al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick Hi Darren, Well, there are a few good

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Al, No it doesn't cost money to use Google Groups or Yahoo Groups but there were a number of reasons why we decided to purchase our domain, pay for a mail server, and manually run the list ourselves. For one thing when we made the switch Yahoo was beginning to introduce ccapchas that were not

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Al, Ah, no that wouldn't be possible. Outlook, Thunderbird, Udora, etc use message rules to sort incoming messages by subject, e-mail address, etc according to the criteria yougive it in the message rules. For example, all our messages have the [Audyssey] tag line in the subject so you could

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Damien, While that wasn't the specific reason why Raul and I left Yahoo Groups that is a pretty common problem with free listservices. Places like Free Lists, Google Groups, and so on are not able to handle a membership of 300 or more members. When traffic is high messages get delayed when

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-19 Thread shaun everiss
Tom what is the point of audyssey.org as a site when audiogames.net has been serving the community for most of the indi companies, hacker groups comercial and free devs and so on out there. Not to mention the database, student developers, etc. Unless it all went there is now no need for the

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-19 Thread Liam Erven
Because there's nothing wrong with multiple sites doing the same thing? -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:42 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-19 Thread Bryan Peterson
You'd have to delete the previous message content, at least the ones before the message you're replying to. But thou must! -Original Message- From: Lori Duncan Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 1:36 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick Hi, sorry

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Perhaps, but by that same logic there would be no need for this list since there is arguably the Audiogames.net forum that can handle game discussions just as well as this list. At any rate the Audyssey website would be another resource people could use to find back issues of the

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Thompson
Discussion list Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 3:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick Hi Al, Ah, no that wouldn't be possible. Outlook, Thunderbird, Udora, etc use message rules to sort incoming messages by subject, e-mail address, etc according to the criteria yougive

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-19 Thread shaun everiss
Yeah you have your point. And if the audiogames database ever went down. Would be good if if not the forums at least the database could be mirrored, actualy doesn't sound that stupid really. At 11:23 a.m. 19/08/2012 -0400, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Perhaps, but by that same logic there would be no

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-18 Thread Jeremy Kaldobsky
...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Saturday, August 18, 2012, 1:17 AM Hi Jeremey, That maybe so, but I don't see a solution to this problem. What's your suggestion to resolve this problem? Itseems to me anything we might

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jeremy, I See. Well, unfortunately as far as I can tell there is no option to just return the message to the sender. It deletes it and sends them a rejection message instead. I think this is because the author's of the Mailman software assume if a moderator chooses to reject it there would be

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-18 Thread Darren Harris
: [Audyssey] a bone to pick Hi Jeremy, I See. Well, unfortunately as far as I can tell there is no option to just return the message to the sender. It deletes it and sends them a rejection message instead. I think this is because the author's of the Mailman software assume if a moderator chooses to reject

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Darren, Well, there are a few good reasons for not increasing the message size to 20 KB. First, is financial. Whoever maintains the Audyssey domain, server, and list will have to pay for extra bandwidth being used by the list. The larger the messages the more bandwidth it will take for

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-18 Thread Yohandy
...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick Hi Al and all, I'm Sorry, but that really isn't possible with Mailman. Once a message is rejected, disguarded, etc the message itself is deleted by Mailman

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-18 Thread Jeremy Kaldobsky
of messages I reply to! Hurray! --- On Sat, 8/18/12, Damien C. Pendleton dam...@dcpendleton.co.uk wrote: From: Damien C. Pendleton dam...@dcpendleton.co.uk Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Saturday, August 18, 2012, 10:10 AM Hi

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-18 Thread Allan Thompson
: Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:32 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick Hi Darren, Well, there are a few good reasons for not increasing the message size to 20 KB. First, is financial. Whoever maintains the Audyssey domain, server, and list will have to pay for extra bandwidth

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-18 Thread Damien C. Pendleton
, Damien. -Original Message- From: Allan Thompson Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:47 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick Hi, Does it cost to use yahoo or google groups? I seem to recall the list got changed from one of these but I don't recall the reason

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-18 Thread Allan Thompson
clueless about whatever that is. al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: Damien C. Pendleton To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick Hi Allan, As far as I

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-18 Thread Damien C. Pendleton
: Allan Thompson Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 8:20 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick Hi, Thank you for answering that. I guess the sent folder copies is the way to go. I know someone mentioned making rules for your email program. Is it possible to make a rule

[Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-17 Thread Allan Thompson
I would just like to ask the moderators, or whoever is in charge of such things, that if my email is rejected due to size (I make mistakes, I'm human after all) that at least give me the email content back. This particular time it was an email I must have written at least a week ago if not

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-17 Thread Jeremy Kaldobsky
and post it again. --- On Fri, 8/17/12, Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net wrote: From: Allan Thompson allan1.thomp...@cox.net Subject: [Audyssey] a bone to pick To: gamers discussion list Gamers@audyssey.org Date: Friday, August 17, 2012, 1:57 PM I would just like to ask the moderators

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-17 Thread Michael Taboada
Hi, Have you ever thought about the sent folder? :D Hth, -Michael. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Kaldobsky Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 12:59 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick I completely and totally agree. A few times I've forgotten to remove

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-17 Thread Jeremy Kaldobsky
My sent folder doesn't save copies of email replies, only emails I've started from scratch. --- On Fri, 8/17/12, Michael Taboada mich...@speedofsoundgaming.com wrote: From: Michael Taboada mich...@speedofsoundgaming.com Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick To: Gamers Discussion list gamers

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-17 Thread Lori Duncan
PM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick I completely and totally agree. A few times I've forgotten to remove the excess past posts material and my message was rejected. The worst part about the situation is that they were almost always very long

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-17 Thread Jeremy Kaldobsky
Duncan lori_dunca...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Friday, August 17, 2012, 3:36 PM Hi, sorry, but could someone explain that one for me?  I don't understand what corrections you'd have to make to a message which is too

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-17 Thread Michael Taboada
Hi, Ah. Fare enough. -Michael. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Kaldobsky Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 2:25 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick My sent folder doesn't save copies of email replies, only emails I've started from scratch. --- On Fri

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-17 Thread Lori Duncan
Ah, thanks, I understand now, I've never looked at it before that way. From Lori. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-17 Thread Allan Thompson
going thru all that again, due to a simple,. stupid mistake. al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: Jeremy Kaldobsky To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-17 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Jeremy, Why don't you set your email options to save all sent messages? That is what I have my program do. Or you could have it warn you if a message is too large. Or you could trim it to just the last message your are replying to which is what I do. To be on topic you could write a game that

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-17 Thread Jeremy Kaldobsky
wrote: From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Date: Friday, August 17, 2012, 5:51 PM Hi Jeremy, Why don't you set your email options to save all sent messages? That is what I have my program do. Or you could

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Al and all, I'm Sorry, but that really isn't possible with Mailman. Once a message is rejected, disguarded, etc the message itself is deleted by Mailman and is removed from the message queue. There is no automatic way to have Mailman send the message back to the original sender via Mailman

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Al and all, Most e-mail clients these days will allow you to backup a copy of every single message you send. Therefore if a message gets rejected you feel shouldn't have the easiest way to edit and resend that post is by checking your sent items folder in Outlook Express, Outlook, Thunderbird,

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jeremy, That's strange. What e-mail client are you using? I pretty much assumed that all e-mail clients make backup copies of every message regardless if it is written from scratch or if it is a responce to someone. That's been my experience at any rate. :D On 8/17/12, Jeremy Kaldobsky

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-17 Thread Allan Thompson
Well, I guess that's that then. Thanks for responding with an answer. al The truth will set you free Jesus Christ of Nazareth 33A.D. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward To: Gamers Discussion list Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a bone

Re: [Audyssey] a bone to pick

2012-08-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jeremey, That maybe so, but I don't see a solution to this problem. What's your suggestion to resolve this problem? Itseems to me anything we might suggest wouldn'tsatisfy everyone. There would be just as many issues and hassles with the solution =as the current problem. A: We could remove