Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please.
I must say I do want to see what things were like before. Its why I go for old soundcard soundfonts crappy that they may be for general use. I mean gameboy soundfont, crap for almost everything else but what if I want to play a old game soundtrack and remember it. Or if I get something what about getting something like a snes or nes font or old synth not suited for music and play it for something not supposed to do that. hvsc does c64 and thats one synth I enjoy playing, the older stuff some of it is so good it stays. Game wise well who knows. Last night I watched an old video of a mainframe starting up, computers starting are nothing to what it was back then and I liked the nostelga. On 22/10/2015 11:29 p.m., john wrote: I suspect for the same reason folks ask for a lot of old games - they just want to see what it was like. Either that, or they once played the game, no longer have it and want to play it again. -- From: "dark" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:57 To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. I think that was in 2012 or so, but as I said they were long sinse dead before that, indeed to be honest I always wonder why there's so much discussion of bavisoft. The games are available for whoever wants to play them, and as I said they're probably worth at least one run for amusement value, however once you've played them there's not a lot else to say. Even as far as the audio adventures genre goes much bigger and better things have been done sinse and will likely continue to be done in the future. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please.
When the audiogames archive is finished, we will host the demo versions of bsc's titles. Also - before anybody comments on the legality yes, we can do that (barring communication with an update), as per the license agreement when you install the games. -- From: "Ron hopkins" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 18:15 To: Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. Where can you get the windows version of graile to the thief? Also does bscgames have there games arcived so you can get them? thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please.
Where can you get the windows version of graile to the thief? Also does bscgames have there games arcived so you can get them? thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please.
would you happen to know if that is still available anywhere please? Simon - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. It's really random, especially when games like shard workshop's zero site, which to me was an exceptional flight simulation game with a lot of replay value seem to have been largely forgotten by the community. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "john" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. >I suspect there may also be a bit of psychology at work regarding their >titles; meaning that Bavisoft has gotten a lot of attention. Not positive >attention for sure, but attention nonetheless. Therefore, some folks will >naturally want to see the subject of that attention. > > - Original Message - > From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Date sent: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 13:53:49 +0100 > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. > > I would agree John on that generally, however I seem to have seen more > discussions of bavisoft's games than those from any other defunked > developer > for some reason, even Bsc hasn't generated this much sporadic interest, > nor > code factory despite their games being in the same genre as bavisoft's. > > For some very odd reason, Bavisoft just keeps coming back in people's > minds, and I'm really not sure why, sinse the games, while as I said worth > a > playespecially what I'd call landmark titles, not compared to > something > like superliam or troopanum. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. > - Original Message - > From: "john" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:29 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. > > > I suspect for the same reason folks ask for a lot of old games - they just > want to see what it was like. > Either that, or they once played the game, no longer have it and want to > play it again. > > -- > From: "dark" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:57 > To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. > > I think that was in 2012 or so, but as I said they were long sinse dead > before that, indeed to be honest I always wonder why there's so much > discussion of bavisoft. The games are available for whoever wants to play > them, and as I said they're probably worth at least one run for amusement > value, however once you've played them there's not a lot else to say. > > Even as far as the audio adventures genre goes much bigger and better > things > have been done sinse and will likely continue to be done in the future. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription
Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please.
It's really random, especially when games like shard workshop's zero site, which to me was an exceptional flight simulation game with a lot of replay value seem to have been largely forgotten by the community. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "john" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. I suspect there may also be a bit of psychology at work regarding their titles; meaning that Bavisoft has gotten a lot of attention. Not positive attention for sure, but attention nonetheless. Therefore, some folks will naturally want to see the subject of that attention. - Original Message - From: "dark" discussions of bavisoft's games than those from any other defunked developer for some reason, even Bsc hasn't generated this much sporadic interest, nor code factory despite their games being in the same genre as bavisoft's. For some very odd reason, Bavisoft just keeps coming back in people's minds, and I'm really not sure why, sinse the games, while as I said worth a playespecially what I'd call landmark titles, not compared to something like superliam or troopanum. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "john" http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please.
I suspect there may also be a bit of psychology at work regarding their titles; meaning that Bavisoft has gotten a lot of attention. Not positive attention for sure, but attention nonetheless. Therefore, some folks will naturally want to see the subject of that attention. - Original Message - From: "dark" http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please.
I would agree John on that generally, however I seem to have seen more discussions of bavisoft's games than those from any other defunked developer for some reason, even Bsc hasn't generated this much sporadic interest, nor code factory despite their games being in the same genre as bavisoft's. For some very odd reason, Bavisoft just keeps coming back in people's minds, and I'm really not sure why, sinse the games, while as I said worth a playespecially what I'd call landmark titles, not compared to something like superliam or troopanum. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "john" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. I suspect for the same reason folks ask for a lot of old games - they just want to see what it was like. Either that, or they once played the game, no longer have it and want to play it again. -- From: "dark" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:57 To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. I think that was in 2012 or so, but as I said they were long sinse dead before that, indeed to be honest I always wonder why there's so much discussion of bavisoft. The games are available for whoever wants to play them, and as I said they're probably worth at least one run for amusement value, however once you've played them there's not a lot else to say. Even as far as the audio adventures genre goes much bigger and better things have been done sinse and will likely continue to be done in the future. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please.
Hi Dark, Actually, I believe the ICANN shut the Bavisoft site down last year not 2012. In any case it makes little difference because as you say they were long since not a going concern by then. They wouldn't answer their e-mails, couldn't be contacted by phone, and were notoriously bad about not shipping orders for their games. So regardless of when they were shutdown they were pretty much done anyway. Cheers! On 10/22/15, dark wrote: > I think that was in 2012 or so, but as I said they were long sinse dead > before that, indeed to be honest I always wonder why there's so much > discussion of bavisoft. The games are available for whoever wants to play > them, and as I said they're probably worth at least one run for amusement > value, however once you've played them there's not a lot else to say. > > Even as far as the audio adventures genre goes much bigger and better things > > have been done sinse and will likely continue to be done in the future. > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please.
I suspect for the same reason folks ask for a lot of old games - they just want to see what it was like. Either that, or they once played the game, no longer have it and want to play it again. -- From: "dark" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:57 To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. I think that was in 2012 or so, but as I said they were long sinse dead before that, indeed to be honest I always wonder why there's so much discussion of bavisoft. The games are available for whoever wants to play them, and as I said they're probably worth at least one run for amusement value, however once you've played them there's not a lot else to say. Even as far as the audio adventures genre goes much bigger and better things have been done sinse and will likely continue to be done in the future. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please.
I think that was in 2012 or so, but as I said they were long sinse dead before that, indeed to be honest I always wonder why there's so much discussion of bavisoft. The games are available for whoever wants to play them, and as I said they're probably worth at least one run for amusement value, however once you've played them there's not a lot else to say. Even as far as the audio adventures genre goes much bigger and better things have been done sinse and will likely continue to be done in the future. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "john" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. Oh sure they vanished long before - but I was talking about when folks started officially declaring them gone, which was when (forum user whose name I can't recall) got them kicked off the net. -- From: "dark" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:06 To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. Hi John. Bavisoft vanished off the map long before their site shut down, indeed the last I remember anyone hearing from them was in August of 2009, and that was only a "please don't copy our games", nothing about the game compatibility problems with newer windows, their future plans or most worrying of all their lost orders, or why the hell they were persisting in trying to sell games on cd that could be easily downloaded, indeed as far as I know nobody recieved a new cd of a Bavisoft title sinse after 2008, and even before then several orders went missing. To set the hole matter to rest I tried to even phone Bavisoft myself after I got hold of the founder's actual new york number through some creative use of Google, and got what I believe is the American out of order sygnal, which seems pretty conclusive proof. Bottom line, Bavisoft seem to have dropped off the map as far as I'm concerned, and they did so long before their website went bye bye. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please.
ICANN, the internet corporation for assigned names and numbers, is basically the organization that manages domain (website) names, and keeps track of who has what website. They also require a certain degree of accountability from anybody who has a website - requiring a valid address, phone and email before you can set up a website - and its the term "valid" that got Bavisoft shut down. -- From: "goshawk on horseback" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:08 To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. I hope this doesn't sound like too much of a silly question, but who/what is icann? Simon - Original Message - From: "john" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. Bavisoft didn't "close". They were "closed" (as in their site was shut down by ICANN). -- From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 20:42 To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. Hi Jody, Unfortunately, that is true. There is a lot of things the developer of Bavisoft could have and probably should have done, but he strikes me as not really giving a care. He wrote Chillingham and Grizzly Gulch and after that pretty much let things go without too much in the way of technical support, follow ups, and insuring people can legally obtain his products once Bavisoft closed its doors for good. Its sad, but in my opinion the games weren't that good to begin with so aren't that much of a loss to the community in my opinion. Cheers! On 10/21/15, Jody McKinniss wrote: > What displeases me is that the developer didn't make arrangements for > his games to be found after development ended. At least BSC games > could be found even when development had ended. > > On 10/21/15, Thomas Ward wrote: >> Hi Simon, >> >> I understand your position and why you disagree. However, as the >> legality of sharing the Bavisoft games are in doubt we still consider >> sharing them on list piracy. At least officially. What you and others >> do off list is none of our concern and why I mentioned if anyone >> wishes to share to please do so off list. Understand for legal reasons >> we can not in good conscience allow the sharing of games in which the >> developer/author has not expressly given us permission to share them. >> >> >> Cheers! >> >> >> >> On 10/21/15, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >>> not meaning to sound like I am trying to start any trouble, but baring >>> in >>> mind that the developer seems to have vanished with out a trace, I have >>> to >>> say, that I would beg to disagree. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Thomas Ward" >>> To: "goshawk on horseback" ; >>> "Gamers >>> Discussion list" >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 12:16 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Just a note to the list. As Grizzly Gulch is still technically a >>> commercial game and was never officially abandoned by the developer if >>> you so wish to share the game with Simon please do so off list. >>> >>> Thanks. >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the li
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Oh sure they vanished long before - but I was talking about when folks started officially declaring them gone, which was when (forum user whose name I can't recall) got them kicked off the net. -- From: "dark" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:06 To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. Hi John. Bavisoft vanished off the map long before their site shut down, indeed the last I remember anyone hearing from them was in August of 2009, and that was only a "please don't copy our games", nothing about the game compatibility problems with newer windows, their future plans or most worrying of all their lost orders, or why the hell they were persisting in trying to sell games on cd that could be easily downloaded, indeed as far as I know nobody recieved a new cd of a Bavisoft title sinse after 2008, and even before then several orders went missing. To set the hole matter to rest I tried to even phone Bavisoft myself after I got hold of the founder's actual new york number through some creative use of Google, and got what I believe is the American out of order sygnal, which seems pretty conclusive proof. Bottom line, Bavisoft seem to have dropped off the map as far as I'm concerned, and they did so long before their website went bye bye. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I hope this doesn't sound like too much of a silly question, but who/what is icann? Simon - Original Message - From: "john" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. Bavisoft didn't "close". They were "closed" (as in their site was shut down by ICANN). -- From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 20:42 To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. Hi Jody, Unfortunately, that is true. There is a lot of things the developer of Bavisoft could have and probably should have done, but he strikes me as not really giving a care. He wrote Chillingham and Grizzly Gulch and after that pretty much let things go without too much in the way of technical support, follow ups, and insuring people can legally obtain his products once Bavisoft closed its doors for good. Its sad, but in my opinion the games weren't that good to begin with so aren't that much of a loss to the community in my opinion. Cheers! On 10/21/15, Jody McKinniss wrote: > What displeases me is that the developer didn't make arrangements for > his games to be found after development ended. At least BSC games > could be found even when development had ended. > > On 10/21/15, Thomas Ward wrote: >> Hi Simon, >> >> I understand your position and why you disagree. However, as the >> legality of sharing the Bavisoft games are in doubt we still consider >> sharing them on list piracy. At least officially. What you and others >> do off list is none of our concern and why I mentioned if anyone >> wishes to share to please do so off list. Understand for legal reasons >> we can not in good conscience allow the sharing of games in which the >> developer/author has not expressly given us permission to share them. >> >> >> Cheers! >> >> >> >> On 10/21/15, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >>> not meaning to sound like I am trying to start any trouble, but baring >>> in >>> mind that the developer seems to have vanished with out a trace, I have >>> to >>> say, that I would beg to disagree. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Thomas Ward" >>> To: "goshawk on horseback" ; >>> "Gamers >>> Discussion list" >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 12:16 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Just a note to the list. As Grizzly Gulch is still technically a >>> commercial game and was never officially abandoned by the developer if >>> you so wish to share the game with Simon please do so off list. >>> >>> Thanks. >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/game
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Hi John. Bavisoft vanished off the map long before their site shut down, indeed the last I remember anyone hearing from them was in August of 2009, and that was only a "please don't copy our games", nothing about the game compatibility problems with newer windows, their future plans or most worrying of all their lost orders, or why the hell they were persisting in trying to sell games on cd that could be easily downloaded, indeed as far as I know nobody recieved a new cd of a Bavisoft title sinse after 2008, and even before then several orders went missing. To set the hole matter to rest I tried to even phone Bavisoft myself after I got hold of the founder's actual new york number through some creative use of Google, and got what I believe is the American out of order sygnal, which seems pretty conclusive proof. Bottom line, Bavisoft seem to have dropped off the map as far as I'm concerned, and they did so long before their website went bye bye. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Bavisoft didn't "close". They were "closed" (as in their site was shut down by ICANN). -- From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 20:42 To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. Hi Jody, Unfortunately, that is true. There is a lot of things the developer of Bavisoft could have and probably should have done, but he strikes me as not really giving a care. He wrote Chillingham and Grizzly Gulch and after that pretty much let things go without too much in the way of technical support, follow ups, and insuring people can legally obtain his products once Bavisoft closed its doors for good. Its sad, but in my opinion the games weren't that good to begin with so aren't that much of a loss to the community in my opinion. Cheers! On 10/21/15, Jody McKinniss wrote: > What displeases me is that the developer didn't make arrangements for > his games to be found after development ended. At least BSC games > could be found even when development had ended. > > On 10/21/15, Thomas Ward wrote: >> Hi Simon, >> >> I understand your position and why you disagree. However, as the >> legality of sharing the Bavisoft games are in doubt we still consider >> sharing them on list piracy. At least officially. What you and others >> do off list is none of our concern and why I mentioned if anyone >> wishes to share to please do so off list. Understand for legal reasons >> we can not in good conscience allow the sharing of games in which the >> developer/author has not expressly given us permission to share them. >> >> >> Cheers! >> >> >> >> On 10/21/15, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >>> not meaning to sound like I am trying to start any trouble, but baring >>> in >>> mind that the developer seems to have vanished with out a trace, I have >>> to >>> say, that I would beg to disagree. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Thomas Ward" >>> To: "goshawk on horseback" ; >>> "Gamers >>> Discussion list" >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 12:16 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Just a note to the list. As Grizzly Gulch is still technically a >>> commercial game and was never officially abandoned by the developer if >>> you so wish to share the game with Simon please do so off list. >>> >>> Thanks. >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I'd be very glad to give more information about Graille to the thief: http://www.audiogames.net/db.php?id=Grail+to+the+thief&submit=submit Done! Btw, it's for the purposes of finding out information that I wrote the audiogames.net database entries in the first place. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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please could you give a bit more info on the graille to the thief game? thanks. Simon - Original Message - From: "dark" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 5:33 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. It's interesting that audio adventures (as I've called the genre on audiogames.net), are now becoming far more common and we have some rather better examples like the inquisitor games and codename signus, not to mention graille to the thief which is about the same difficulty as the bavisoft games, but just costs 5 usd, and is hopefully just an intro for similar games later on. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Tom. While I agree, to an extent that is true of any adventure game unfortunately, it certainly is true of Graille to the thief which is a much more recent release. There are of course some games like INquisitor that have extra little side turning or things to discover on a second run, plus are much longer, but in general this is a limitation of the adventure puzzle style games as a genre, very different from say action games or tactical or exploration based games. In a game like Graille to the thief, which is just five usd worth of random fun, it's not so bad, however saying what was originally charged for the bavisoft games it's not a good state of affairs. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "goshawk on horseback" ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. Hi Simon, I take it by your comments that you have never played any of the Bavisoft games completely through. It is for that reason I think your opinion might be a bit premature. Weather the games are good or bad or not is of course highly subjective, but the thing that really turned me off those games is once you solve all the puzzles there is no longer any replay value in the games. The second time you play the game will be nearly the same as the first time you play the game. Thus I found them boring and uninteresting the second time through since there isn't a lot of change from game to game. Cheers! On 10/21/15, goshawk on horseback wrote: I haven't really gone in to them properly yet, but from what I have heard, when I ran them briefly to make sure that they ran on my win7 64bit machine, they seem rather good. Simon --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi. I'd say the bavisoft games are worth a play certainly, my problem is that I finished both on the day I got them. Grizly gulch has a llittle replay value if you put the speed up sinse then you've got essentially a bunch of casino games and an arcade shooter, but the same is sadly not true of chillingham, indeed to say Chillingham was supposed to be a more serious, more plot driven game I was quite disappointed by the fact that the plot actually goes no where and you learn nothing in the end. Certainly worth a play as I said, but don't hold out too much hopes on thirty hours of gameplay or endless replay value. All the best, Dark. - Original Message - From: "goshawk on horseback" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:07 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. I haven't really gone in to them properly yet, but from what I have heard, when I ran them briefly to make sure that they ran on my win7 64bit machine, they seem rather good. Simon - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 1:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. Hi Jody, Unfortunately, that is true. There is a lot of things the developer of Bavisoft could have and probably should have done, but he strikes me as not really giving a care. He wrote Chillingham and Grizzly Gulch and after that pretty much let things go without too much in the way of technical support, follow ups, and insuring people can legally obtain his products once Bavisoft closed its doors for good. Its sad, but in my opinion the games weren't that good to begin with so aren't that much of a loss to the community in my opinion. Cheers! On 10/21/15, Jody McKinniss wrote: What displeases me is that the developer didn't make arrangements for his games to be found after development ended. At least BSC games could be found even when development had ended. On 10/21/15, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Simon, I understand your position and why you disagree. However, as the legality of sharing the Bavisoft games are in doubt we still consider sharing them on list piracy. At least officially. What you and others do off list is none of our concern and why I mentioned if anyone wishes to share to please do so off list. Understand for legal reasons we can not in good conscience allow the sharing of games in which the developer/author has not expressly given us permission to share them. Cheers! On 10/21/15, goshawk on horseback wrote: not meaning to sound like I am trying to start any trouble, but baring in mind that the developer seems to have vanished with out a trace, I have to say, that I would beg to disagree. Simon - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "goshawk on horseback" ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. Hi all, Just a note to the list. As Grizzly Gulch is still technically a commercial game and was never officially abandoned by the developer if you so wish to share the game with Simon please do so off list. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_a
Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please.
It's interesting that audio adventures (as I've called the genre on audiogames.net), are now becoming far more common and we have some rather better examples like the inquisitor games and codename signus, not to mention graille to the thief which is about the same difficulty as the bavisoft games, but just costs 5 usd, and is hopefully just an intro for similar games later on. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Well for the public record I'd like the exec files for both of them if anybody has them and is willing to share. If the company was stil in business, I'd have not a problem paying. On 10/21/15, Shaun Everiss wrote: > To be honest I remember when this thing came about. > In the audiogames forum the games can be shared though to be honest > every effort was made to contact bavisoft on and off forum several times > its not like no one tried. > > > > On 22/10/2015 12:32 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote: >> Hi Simon, >> >> I understand your position and why you disagree. However, as the >> legality of sharing the Bavisoft games are in doubt we still consider >> sharing them on list piracy. At least officially. What you and others >> do off list is none of our concern and why I mentioned if anyone >> wishes to share to please do so off list. Understand for legal reasons >> we can not in good conscience allow the sharing of games in which the >> developer/author has not expressly given us permission to share them. >> >> >> Cheers! >> >> >> >> On 10/21/15, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >>> not meaning to sound like I am trying to start any trouble, but baring >>> in >>> mind that the developer seems to have vanished with out a trace, I have >>> to >>> say, that I would beg to disagree. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Thomas Ward" >>> To: "goshawk on horseback" ; >>> "Gamers >>> Discussion list" >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 12:16 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Just a note to the list. As Grizzly Gulch is still technically a >>> commercial game and was never officially abandoned by the developer if >>> you so wish to share the game with Simon please do so off list. >>> >>> Thanks. >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> . >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > -- Danielle Email: singingmywa...@gmail.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Simon, I take it by your comments that you have never played any of the Bavisoft games completely through. It is for that reason I think your opinion might be a bit premature. Weather the games are good or bad or not is of course highly subjective, but the thing that really turned me off those games is once you solve all the puzzles there is no longer any replay value in the games. The second time you play the game will be nearly the same as the first time you play the game. Thus I found them boring and uninteresting the second time through since there isn't a lot of change from game to game. Cheers! On 10/21/15, goshawk on horseback wrote: > I haven't really gone in to them properly yet, but from what I have heard, > when I ran them briefly to make sure that they ran on my win7 64bit machine, > > they seem rather good. > > Simon > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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To be honest I remember when this thing came about. In the audiogames forum the games can be shared though to be honest every effort was made to contact bavisoft on and off forum several times its not like no one tried. On 22/10/2015 12:32 p.m., Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Simon, I understand your position and why you disagree. However, as the legality of sharing the Bavisoft games are in doubt we still consider sharing them on list piracy. At least officially. What you and others do off list is none of our concern and why I mentioned if anyone wishes to share to please do so off list. Understand for legal reasons we can not in good conscience allow the sharing of games in which the developer/author has not expressly given us permission to share them. Cheers! On 10/21/15, goshawk on horseback wrote: not meaning to sound like I am trying to start any trouble, but baring in mind that the developer seems to have vanished with out a trace, I have to say, that I would beg to disagree. Simon - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "goshawk on horseback" ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. Hi all, Just a note to the list. As Grizzly Gulch is still technically a commercial game and was never officially abandoned by the developer if you so wish to share the game with Simon please do so off list. Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. . --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I haven't really gone in to them properly yet, but from what I have heard, when I ran them briefly to make sure that they ran on my win7 64bit machine, they seem rather good. Simon - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 1:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. Hi Jody, Unfortunately, that is true. There is a lot of things the developer of Bavisoft could have and probably should have done, but he strikes me as not really giving a care. He wrote Chillingham and Grizzly Gulch and after that pretty much let things go without too much in the way of technical support, follow ups, and insuring people can legally obtain his products once Bavisoft closed its doors for good. Its sad, but in my opinion the games weren't that good to begin with so aren't that much of a loss to the community in my opinion. Cheers! On 10/21/15, Jody McKinniss wrote: > What displeases me is that the developer didn't make arrangements for > his games to be found after development ended. At least BSC games > could be found even when development had ended. > > On 10/21/15, Thomas Ward wrote: >> Hi Simon, >> >> I understand your position and why you disagree. However, as the >> legality of sharing the Bavisoft games are in doubt we still consider >> sharing them on list piracy. At least officially. What you and others >> do off list is none of our concern and why I mentioned if anyone >> wishes to share to please do so off list. Understand for legal reasons >> we can not in good conscience allow the sharing of games in which the >> developer/author has not expressly given us permission to share them. >> >> >> Cheers! >> >> >> >> On 10/21/15, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >>> not meaning to sound like I am trying to start any trouble, but baring >>> in >>> mind that the developer seems to have vanished with out a trace, I have >>> to >>> say, that I would beg to disagree. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Thomas Ward" >>> To: "goshawk on horseback" ; >>> "Gamers >>> Discussion list" >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 12:16 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Just a note to the list. As Grizzly Gulch is still technically a >>> commercial game and was never officially abandoned by the developer if >>> you so wish to share the game with Simon please do so off list. >>> >>> Thanks. >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please.
exactly! and because of that, I have had to ask around for this game, and on a couple of other lists, have been given a major! hard time over this copy right issue, a situation I wouldn't have been put in, if the developer had taken steps to make the games still available, rather than just disappearing completely. Simon - Original Message - From: "Jody McKinniss" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 1:29 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. What displeases me is that the developer didn't make arrangements for his games to be found after development ended. At least BSC games could be found even when development had ended. On 10/21/15, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Simon, > > I understand your position and why you disagree. However, as the > legality of sharing the Bavisoft games are in doubt we still consider > sharing them on list piracy. At least officially. What you and others > do off list is none of our concern and why I mentioned if anyone > wishes to share to please do so off list. Understand for legal reasons > we can not in good conscience allow the sharing of games in which the > developer/author has not expressly given us permission to share them. > > > Cheers! > > > > On 10/21/15, goshawk on horseback > wrote: >> not meaning to sound like I am trying to start any trouble, but baring in >> mind that the developer seems to have vanished with out a trace, I have >> to >> say, that I would beg to disagree. >> >> Simon >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Thomas Ward" >> To: "goshawk on horseback" ; "Gamers >> Discussion list" >> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 12:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> Just a note to the list. As Grizzly Gulch is still technically a >> commercial game and was never officially abandoned by the developer if >> you so wish to share the game with Simon please do so off list. >> >> Thanks. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please.
Hi Jody, Unfortunately, that is true. There is a lot of things the developer of Bavisoft could have and probably should have done, but he strikes me as not really giving a care. He wrote Chillingham and Grizzly Gulch and after that pretty much let things go without too much in the way of technical support, follow ups, and insuring people can legally obtain his products once Bavisoft closed its doors for good. Its sad, but in my opinion the games weren't that good to begin with so aren't that much of a loss to the community in my opinion. Cheers! On 10/21/15, Jody McKinniss wrote: > What displeases me is that the developer didn't make arrangements for > his games to be found after development ended. At least BSC games > could be found even when development had ended. > > On 10/21/15, Thomas Ward wrote: >> Hi Simon, >> >> I understand your position and why you disagree. However, as the >> legality of sharing the Bavisoft games are in doubt we still consider >> sharing them on list piracy. At least officially. What you and others >> do off list is none of our concern and why I mentioned if anyone >> wishes to share to please do so off list. Understand for legal reasons >> we can not in good conscience allow the sharing of games in which the >> developer/author has not expressly given us permission to share them. >> >> >> Cheers! >> >> >> >> On 10/21/15, goshawk on horseback >> wrote: >>> not meaning to sound like I am trying to start any trouble, but baring >>> in >>> mind that the developer seems to have vanished with out a trace, I have >>> to >>> say, that I would beg to disagree. >>> >>> Simon >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Thomas Ward" >>> To: "goshawk on horseback" ; >>> "Gamers >>> Discussion list" >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 12:16 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Just a note to the list. As Grizzly Gulch is still technically a >>> commercial game and was never officially abandoned by the developer if >>> you so wish to share the game with Simon please do so off list. >>> >>> Thanks. >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please.
What displeases me is that the developer didn't make arrangements for his games to be found after development ended. At least BSC games could be found even when development had ended. On 10/21/15, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi Simon, > > I understand your position and why you disagree. However, as the > legality of sharing the Bavisoft games are in doubt we still consider > sharing them on list piracy. At least officially. What you and others > do off list is none of our concern and why I mentioned if anyone > wishes to share to please do so off list. Understand for legal reasons > we can not in good conscience allow the sharing of games in which the > developer/author has not expressly given us permission to share them. > > > Cheers! > > > > On 10/21/15, goshawk on horseback > wrote: >> not meaning to sound like I am trying to start any trouble, but baring in >> mind that the developer seems to have vanished with out a trace, I have >> to >> say, that I would beg to disagree. >> >> Simon >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Thomas Ward" >> To: "goshawk on horseback" ; "Gamers >> Discussion list" >> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 12:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> Just a note to the list. As Grizzly Gulch is still technically a >> commercial game and was never officially abandoned by the developer if >> you so wish to share the game with Simon please do so off list. >> >> Thanks. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please.
Hi Simon, I understand your position and why you disagree. However, as the legality of sharing the Bavisoft games are in doubt we still consider sharing them on list piracy. At least officially. What you and others do off list is none of our concern and why I mentioned if anyone wishes to share to please do so off list. Understand for legal reasons we can not in good conscience allow the sharing of games in which the developer/author has not expressly given us permission to share them. Cheers! On 10/21/15, goshawk on horseback wrote: > not meaning to sound like I am trying to start any trouble, but baring in > mind that the developer seems to have vanished with out a trace, I have to > say, that I would beg to disagree. > > Simon > > > - Original Message - > From: "Thomas Ward" > To: "goshawk on horseback" ; "Gamers > Discussion list" > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 12:16 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please. > > > Hi all, > > Just a note to the list. As Grizzly Gulch is still technically a > commercial game and was never officially abandoned by the developer if > you so wish to share the game with Simon please do so off list. > > Thanks. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please.
I'd also like to find it if at all possible. On 10/21/15, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hi all, > > Just a note to the list. As Grizzly Gulch is still technically a > commercial game and was never officially abandoned by the developer if > you so wish to share the game with Simon please do so off list. > > Thanks. > > > On 10/20/15, goshawk on horseback > wrote: >> hello all, >> am also now trying to track down the game, Grizzly Gulch please. I thought >> I >> had it, but have just been checking my files, and it looks like I don't. >> >> thanks in advance for help received. >> >> Simon >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] looking for another game please.
Hi all, Just a note to the list. As Grizzly Gulch is still technically a commercial game and was never officially abandoned by the developer if you so wish to share the game with Simon please do so off list. Thanks. On 10/20/15, goshawk on horseback wrote: > hello all, > am also now trying to track down the game, Grizzly Gulch please. I thought I > had it, but have just been checking my files, and it looks like I don't. > > thanks in advance for help received. > > Simon > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] looking for another game please.
hello all, am also now trying to track down the game, Grizzly Gulch please. I thought I had it, but have just been checking my files, and it looks like I don't. thanks in advance for help received. Simon --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
