Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, I guess you said it yourself. You are a purest and are taking the term wrestling too literally here. You are trying to compare pro wrestling to another sport like football, basketball, bowling, etc when that really is comparing two totally different things and trying to say they

Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-20 Thread Teresa Cochran
I periodically watch pro wrestling cards with friends of mine who are fans and have written pro wrestling columns. We talk a lot more about the stories than we do about the wrestling moves. We all like tNA best these days, because its storylines seem more creative. Teresa, whose favorite is

Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-20 Thread dark
Interestingly enough, from friends of mine who do the more harsh and serious sorts of mixed martial arts, (I have one friend who even das krav maga, and yes, she is down right Scary!), since in those situations you are dealing with people who are capable of doing real and serious damage

Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-20 Thread Jacob Kruger
Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters Hi Charles, I guess you said it yourself. You are a purest and are taking the term wrestling too literally here. You are trying

Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-20 Thread Charles Rivard
, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First

Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-20 Thread Charles Rivard
, 2013 2:12 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters Hi Charles, I guess you said it yourself. You are a purest and are taking the term wrestling too literally here. You are trying to compare pro wrestling to another sport like football

Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, Fair enough. You are right that the classification is wrong because while pro wrestling is treated as a professional sporting event the way the events are staged it is often anything but professional in the way the performers behave or conduct themselves. In this case the term

Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-20 Thread Charles Rivard
@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters Hi Charles, Fair enough. You are right that the classification is wrong because while pro wrestling is treated as a professional sporting event the way

Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-19 Thread Kenny
] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:38 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters Hi Charles, Yes, I do see your point, but as I pointed out in professional wrestling there is both wrestling

Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, I think show wrestling is an accurate description. Obviously,, there is a lot of wrestling involved such as various grapples, submission holds, and technical throws, but unlike in Olympic wrestling the WWE, TNA, etc employ a lot of theatrical stunts such as attacking people with chairs,

Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-19 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Teresa, Exactly. The big companies like the WWE don't even pretend to treat wrestling as an actual sport or claim that the competitions are real. They call pro wrestling sports entertainment which basically emphasizes the fact it is entertainment like a sport but is not really a sport the way

Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, To be honest this sounds like another one of your categorical statements without evidence or reasons to back it up. Why exactly do you think professional wrestling is not wrestling? The reason I take issue with your opinion is this. I have been watching or listening to professional

Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-18 Thread Charles Rivard
! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters Hi Charles, To be honest

Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-18 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, Yes, I do see your point, but as I pointed out in professional wrestling there is both wrestling and a lot of the extra stuff you mentioned. The WWE is definitely one for having a lot of artistic stunt work such as throwing people through tables, people getting thrown from ladders,

Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-18 Thread Charles Rivard
: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters Hi Charles, Yes, I do see your point, but as I pointed out in professional wrestling there is both wrestling and a lot of the extra stuff you mentioned. The WWE is definitely one for having a lot of artistic stunt work

Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-18 Thread Teresa Cochran
- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters Hi Charles, Yes, I do see your point, but as I pointed out

Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-18 Thread Teresa Cochran
list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 8:27 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters Hi Charles, To be honest this sounds like another one of your categorical statements without evidence or reasons to back it up. Why

Re: [Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-18 Thread dark
I do sort of see charlse point here, that pro wrestling with the staged matches, supposed foul moves etc isn't exactly the same as another professional sport, even another combat sport like boxing or olypic wrestling or competitive martial arts. I wouldn't say it's not wrestling though

[Audyssey] professional wrestling - Re: The Psychology of First Person Shooters

2013-12-17 Thread Charles Rivard
What they do is artistic stunt work, I think. Although it is an art form, and some wrestling moves and holds are used, it is not wrestling. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Teresa