Re: [Audyssey] My Decision Regarding Voice Output
That's what I figured. No problemo. --- "Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord." - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] My Decision Regarding Voice Output Hi Charles, The zip file containing the files for Scansoft Tom will simply update and replace the existing speech files in the speech directory. As you might understand making the game so you could switch between voices would require a massive amount of work having it figure out what voice is being used and then loading the proper file from the specific voice directory etc. If I were going to do something like that I'd be better off ripping out the existing speech code and replace it with Sapi which I've already decided not to do. This way is just as effective and easier to do from a developmental standpoint. Smile. On 7/4/11, Charles Rivard wrote: Good idea. I'll be grabbing it. A thought: Will the contents of this .zip file replace? or will they become a second voice to use. Having a selection would be a cool option. This is merely an idea. If it isn't implemented, that's OK, too. In either case, I'll be using the .zip file, and appreciate it's availability. It shows that you're interested in customer satisfaction, which you have always done. Thanks. --- "Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] My Decision Regarding Voice Output
Hi Charles, The zip file containing the files for Scansoft Tom will simply update and replace the existing speech files in the speech directory. As you might understand making the game so you could switch between voices would require a massive amount of work having it figure out what voice is being used and then loading the proper file from the specific voice directory etc. If I were going to do something like that I'd be better off ripping out the existing speech code and replace it with Sapi which I've already decided not to do. This way is just as effective and easier to do from a developmental standpoint. Smile. On 7/4/11, Charles Rivard wrote: > Good idea. I'll be grabbing it. A thought: Will the contents of this .zip > file replace? or will they become a second voice to use. Having a selection > would be a cool option. This is merely an idea. If it isn't implemented, > that's OK, too. In either case, I'll be using the .zip file, and appreciate > it's availability. It shows that you're interested in customer > satisfaction, which you have always done. Thanks. > > --- > "Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] My Decision Regarding Voice Output
Good idea. I'll be grabbing it. A thought: Will the contents of this .zip file replace? or will they become a second voice to use. Having a selection would be a cool option. This is merely an idea. If it isn't implemented, that's OK, too. In either case, I'll be using the .zip file, and appreciate it's availability. It shows that you're interested in customer satisfaction, which you have always done. Thanks. --- "Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord." - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] My Decision Regarding Voice Output Hi Charles, Smile. I like Scansoft Tom better myself. For that reason I'm thinking of zipping up the Tom speech directory and posting it with beta 21 for anyone who would prefer him instead of Heather. It seems to me to be the easiest solution for the issue. Cheers! On 6/28/11, Charles Rivard wrote: Shoot. Ah, well, it's your creation. I like Tom better, but he's a personal choice. Didn't the name Tom sway you into a prejudicial decision on which voice to use? I was hoping it would. (grin) --- "Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] My Decision Regarding Voice Output
Hi Charles, Smile. I like Scansoft Tom better myself. For that reason I'm thinking of zipping up the Tom speech directory and posting it with beta 21 for anyone who would prefer him instead of Heather. It seems to me to be the easiest solution for the issue. Cheers! On 6/28/11, Charles Rivard wrote: > Shoot. Ah, well, it's your creation. I like Tom better, but he's a > personal choice. Didn't the name Tom sway you into a prejudicial decision > on which voice to use? I was hoping it would. (grin) > > --- > "Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord." --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] My Decision Regarding Voice Output
Shoot. Ah, well, it's your creation. I like Tom better, but he's a personal choice. Didn't the name Tom sway you into a prejudicial decision on which voice to use? I was hoping it would. (grin) --- "Security is not the absence of danger. It is the presence of the Lord." - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 10:06 AM Subject: [Audyssey] My Decision Regarding Voice Output Hi all, I thank everyone who responded to my voice output query. Given all the comments, suggestions, and feedback I think the best thing to do for Mysteries of the Ancients 1.0 is to go back to Acapela Heather. For one thing nobody had any complaints with that voice, everyone seems agreed they like that voice best, and Heather seems to insert natural pauses between words which makes her quite understandable and clear. Plus since we have a female lead character in this game it makes sense to have female speech output as well. So I hope this suits everyone, and I'll release an updated beta 20 in a couple of days once I update the Heather speech files, finish editing them, and drop them in the speech directory. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] My Decision Regarding Voice Output
Hi Shaun, The voice isn't the only thing I will be changing in the next beta. I was planning on not releasing a beta 21, but given the number of bugs and issues that have cropped up over the last day or so I need to release a new beta with bug fixes etc. On 6/27/11, shaun everiss wrote: > tom if this is all you are updating why just not zip the folder, and > make a simple sfx patch rather than getting everyone to get the full > version again. > At 03:06 a.m. 28/06/2011, you wrote: >>Hi all, >> >>I thank everyone who responded to my voice output query. Given all the >>comments, suggestions, and feedback I think the best thing to do for >>Mysteries of the Ancients 1.0 is to go back to Acapela Heather. For >>one thing nobody had any complaints with that voice, everyone seems >>agreed they like that voice best, and Heather seems to insert natural >>pauses between words which makes her quite understandable and clear. >>Plus since we have a female lead character in this game it makes sense >>to have female speech output as well. So I hope this suits everyone, >>and I'll release an updated beta 20 in a couple of days once I update >>the Heather speech files, finish editing them, and drop them in the >>speech directory. >> >>Sincerely, >>Thomas Ward >>President of USA Games Interactive >> >>--- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >>please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] My Decision Regarding Voice Output
tom if this is all you are updating why just not zip the folder, and make a simple sfx patch rather than getting everyone to get the full version again. At 03:06 a.m. 28/06/2011, you wrote: Hi all, I thank everyone who responded to my voice output query. Given all the comments, suggestions, and feedback I think the best thing to do for Mysteries of the Ancients 1.0 is to go back to Acapela Heather. For one thing nobody had any complaints with that voice, everyone seems agreed they like that voice best, and Heather seems to insert natural pauses between words which makes her quite understandable and clear. Plus since we have a female lead character in this game it makes sense to have female speech output as well. So I hope this suits everyone, and I'll release an updated beta 20 in a couple of days once I update the Heather speech files, finish editing them, and drop them in the speech directory. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] My Decision Regarding Voice Output
Hi Mauricio, Thanks. Well, the way I see it Heather is the logical choice here. First, and fore most, nobody was complaining about Heather, and people only started making complaints when I switched to Scansoft Tom. They didn't like the voice, they thought it was too fast, etc. None of that was the case when using Heather so obviously it was well received by the public. The only person who had any complaints about Heather was me, and it was simply that I had to misspell words etc to get her to say them correctly which caused me more work, but is worth it since she is generally well liked. Second, prior to beta 18 most of the betas was using her voice. That means I don't necessarily have to start from scratch. I only have to update and revise the directory of *.wav files which can be done in a day or two rather than the time it would take to do everything from absolute scratch. Big plus since Dark and a few others were concerned about how much time settling the voice issue might take. Since I have the majority of the work done the time it will take to switch back to Heather is not a big deal or issue at all. Finally, I don't have to experiment with a different voice. Everytime I experiment with a different voice there will probably be groups who like and dislike whatever I choose. So if I picked Ivona Amy, for example, some UK speaking customers might love her, but some American speaking customers that aren't use to a UK accent might not like the voice. Why do that when I already know most people like Heather anyway? So all and all it was a no brainer. I simply thought about it a bit, and came to the conclusion I took a wrong turn by switching to Tom, that didn't work out, so it made sense to go back to what was working and get game production back on track so to speak. Cheers! On 6/26/11, Mauricio Almeida wrote: > Hi thomas, > > as a translator and player, and in the name of my country, I thank you > for your decision. > The brazilians were hoping you would use female voices in the production > (because if not we would have to translate with a male recorder, which > wouldn't fit their needs) and I was hoping you'd go back to heather for > the simple fact I can undrstand it about fifty times better than tom. > > cheers! > > mauricio > -Mensagem original- > De: Thomas Ward > Para: Gamers Discussion list > Data: Segunda, 27 de Junho de 2011 11:06 > Assunto: [Audyssey] My Decision Regarding Voice Output > > Hi all, > > I thank everyone who responded to my voice output query. Given all the > comments, suggestions, and feedback I think the best thing to do for > Mysteries of the Ancients 1.0 is to go back to Acapela Heather. For > one thing nobody had any complaints with that voice, everyone seems > agreed they like that voice best, and Heather seems to insert natural > pauses between words which makes her quite understandable and clear. > Plus since we have a female lead character in this game it makes sense > to have female speech output as well. So I hope this suits everyone, > and I'll release an updated beta 20 in a couple of days once I update > the Heather speech files, finish editing them, and drop them in the > speech directory. > > Sincerely, > Thomas Ward > President of USA Games Interactive > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] My Decision Regarding Voice Output
Hi all, I thank everyone who responded to my voice output query. Given all the comments, suggestions, and feedback I think the best thing to do for Mysteries of the Ancients 1.0 is to go back to Acapela Heather. For one thing nobody had any complaints with that voice, everyone seems agreed they like that voice best, and Heather seems to insert natural pauses between words which makes her quite understandable and clear. Plus since we have a female lead character in this game it makes sense to have female speech output as well. So I hope this suits everyone, and I'll release an updated beta 20 in a couple of days once I update the Heather speech files, finish editing them, and drop them in the speech directory. Sincerely, Thomas Ward President of USA Games Interactive --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
