Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding

2008-08-09 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi,
Well in order for the client to read the incoming text, you need an
NVDA API. Then it would be as simple as reading a string. The program
will use the API can manually give it text to read (what VIP MUD
does). I will look into the NVDA API for RMud. All clients basically
are are text boxes that are updated every time new data comes in, and
it updates the text box. You mentioned MonkeyTerm, but never said if
NVDA reads it, does it?
Thanks.
-Ryan

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Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding

2008-08-09 Thread Orin
It doesn't.
On Aug 9, 2008, at 2:14 PM, Ryan Smith wrote:

 Hi,
 Well in order for the client to read the incoming text, you need an
 NVDA API. Then it would be as simple as reading a string. The program
 will use the API can manually give it text to read (what VIP MUD
 does). I will look into the NVDA API for RMud. All clients basically
 are are text boxes that are updated every time new data comes in, and
 it updates the text box. You mentioned MonkeyTerm, but never said if
 NVDA reads it, does it?
 Thanks.
 -Ryan

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Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding

2008-08-09 Thread Valiant8086
Hi.
NVDA doesn't yet have an API. You may wish to subscribe to the nvda-dev 
mailing list and ask them about it though. Multiple people have asked about 
it in the past including myself and if one more person does it they may 
realize it's enough priority and look into it more interestedly.
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Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding


 Hi,
 Well in order for the client to read the incoming text, you need an
 NVDA API. Then it would be as simple as reading a string. The program
 will use the API can manually give it text to read (what VIP MUD
 does). I will look into the NVDA API for RMud. All clients basically
 are are text boxes that are updated every time new data comes in, and
 it updates the text box. You mentioned MonkeyTerm, but never said if
 NVDA reads it, does it?
 Thanks.
 -Ryan

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Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding

2008-08-09 Thread Valiant8086
It doesn't. It also is unable to read the funkey monkey tree.
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Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding


 Hi,
 Well in order for the client to read the incoming text, you need an
 NVDA API. Then it would be as simple as reading a string. The program
 will use the API can manually give it text to read (what VIP MUD
 does). I will look into the NVDA API for RMud. All clients basically
 are are text boxes that are updated every time new data comes in, and
 it updates the text box. You mentioned MonkeyTerm, but never said if
 NVDA reads it, does it?
 Thanks.
 -Ryan

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Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding

2008-08-09 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi,
When I do come out with RMUD, I do hope  What you can do in RMUD is
disable the incoming text box, and use a message box instead. Then you
press space for okay, send your data, and so on. NVDA will read the
message box. I know this can be a bit of a nuisance, however RMUD will
also have complete SAPI support. When and If NVDA comes out with an
API, I will surely add it. Whether I will open it up to all moo's is
questionable, it is custom developed for this specific MOO..few
feature's wouldn't work without this moo.

Thanks.
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Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding

2008-08-09 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ryan,
At this point NVDA doesn't have good support for any mud clients out of 
the box, but the more advanced users of NVDA could write scripts for 
said clients if they have some idea of Python scripting.
If I wasn't so blasted busy all the time i could probably write some 
Python scripts for some of the more popular mud clients, but 
unfortunately I do not have the time. I think instead of everyone trying 
to directly interface with the screen reader you should make the design 
of the client, program, etc as accessible as possible so that any screen 
reader can use it. After all, Jaws is not the only option out there. 
neither is Window Eyes, and many developers of access technology are 
blissfully ignoring that fact.

Ryan Smith wrote:
 Hi,
 Well in order for the client to read the incoming text, you need an
 NVDA API. Then it would be as simple as reading a string. The program
 will use the API can manually give it text to read (what VIP MUD
 does). I will look into the NVDA API for RMud. All clients basically
 are are text boxes that are updated every time new data comes in, and
 it updates the text box. You mentioned MonkeyTerm, but never said if
 NVDA reads it, does it?
 Thanks.
 -Ryan

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Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding

2008-08-09 Thread Valiant8086
Hi.
I'd really love it if you did make it work with other muds. It sounds like 
it'd be a way to get an accessible client without having to go find the 
client, then the scripts and things you generally need in order to make the 
client accessible. VipMud is brilliant but other options is always good.
- Original Message - 
From: Ryan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding


 Hi,
 When I do come out with RMUD, I do hope  What you can do in RMUD is
 disable the incoming text box, and use a message box instead. Then you
 press space for okay, send your data, and so on. NVDA will read the
 message box. I know this can be a bit of a nuisance, however RMUD will
 also have complete SAPI support. When and If NVDA comes out with an
 API, I will surely add it. Whether I will open it up to all moo's is
 questionable, it is custom developed for this specific MOO..few
 feature's wouldn't work without this moo.

 Thanks.
 -Ryan

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Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding

2008-08-09 Thread Valiant8086
Ryan, if you can do it so that here's an option so that NVDA would be 
able to recognise your text display as a dos shell window you've got it 
solved I do believe
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Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding


 Hi Ryan,
 At this point NVDA doesn't have good support for any mud clients out of
 the box, but the more advanced users of NVDA could write scripts for
 said clients if they have some idea of Python scripting.
 If I wasn't so blasted busy all the time i could probably write some
 Python scripts for some of the more popular mud clients, but
 unfortunately I do not have the time. I think instead of everyone trying
 to directly interface with the screen reader you should make the design
 of the client, program, etc as accessible as possible so that any screen
 reader can use it. After all, Jaws is not the only option out there.
 neither is Window Eyes, and many developers of access technology are
 blissfully ignoring that fact.

 Ryan Smith wrote:
 Hi,
 Well in order for the client to read the incoming text, you need an
 NVDA API. Then it would be as simple as reading a string. The program
 will use the API can manually give it text to read (what VIP MUD
 does). I will look into the NVDA API for RMud. All clients basically
 are are text boxes that are updated every time new data comes in, and
 it updates the text box. You mentioned MonkeyTerm, but never said if
 NVDA reads it, does it?
 Thanks.
 -Ryan

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Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding

2008-08-09 Thread constantine (on laptop)
No, NVDA doesn't read monkey term, sadly.


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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding


 Hi,
 Well in order for the client to read the incoming text, you need an
 NVDA API. Then it would be as simple as reading a string. The program
 will use the API can manually give it text to read (what VIP MUD
 does). I will look into the NVDA API for RMud. All clients basically
 are are text boxes that are updated every time new data comes in, and
 it updates the text box. You mentioned MonkeyTerm, but never said if
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[Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding

2008-08-08 Thread kelby carlson
Dear List,

Does anyone know of any MUD clients (a la Monkey Term) that work 
with the free screen reader NVDA?

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

It is quite easy for me to think of a God of love mainly because 
I grew up in a family where love was central and where lovely 
relationships were ever present.  It is quite easy for me to 
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uplifting hereditary and environmental circumstances.  It is 
quite easy for me to lean more toward optimism than pessimism 
about human nature mainly because of my childhood experiences.  
It is impossible to get at the roots of one's religious attitudes 
without taking in account the psychological and historical 
factors that play upon the individual.
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Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding

2008-08-08 Thread Missy Hoppe
Hi! I would be very interested in this information as well. I don't use 
nvda, but  I have a friend that might benefit from it. Does nvda work with 
Gmud at all?
Thanks!
Missy
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From: kelby carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:30 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding


Dear List,

Does anyone know of any MUD clients (a la Monkey Term) that work
with the free screen reader NVDA?

Kelby

Doomed Dragon

It is quite easy for me to think of a God of love mainly because
I grew up in a family where love was central and where lovely
relationships were ever present.  It is quite easy for me to
think of the universe as basically friendly mainly because of my
uplifting hereditary and environmental circumstances.  It is
quite easy for me to lean more toward optimism than pessimism
about human nature mainly because of my childhood experiences.
It is impossible to get at the roots of one's religious attitudes
without taking in account the psychological and historical
factors that play upon the individual.
  --Martin Luther King, Jr.
  If the people who started wars didn't make them sacred, who
would be foolish enough to fight?

--Rhett Butler

  True or false, that which is said of men often occupies as
important a place in their lives, and above all in their
destinies, as that which they do.

--Victor Hugo

It is not true that the saints and the great contemplatives never
loved created things, and had no understanding or appreciation of
the world, with its sights and sounds and the people living in
it.  They loved everything and everyone.

--Thomas Merton



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Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding

2008-08-08 Thread Parham
As far as I know, neither GMud nore VIPMud nore JACL nore MushClient are 
supported. This information is old, so I stand to be corrected.
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From: Missy Hoppe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding


 Hi! I would be very interested in this information as well. I don't use
 nvda, but  I have a friend that might benefit from it. Does nvda work with
 Gmud at all?
 Thanks!
 Missy
 - Original Message - 
 From: kelby carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:30 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding


 Dear List,

 Does anyone know of any MUD clients (a la Monkey Term) that work
 with the free screen reader NVDA?

 Kelby

 Doomed Dragon

 It is quite easy for me to think of a God of love mainly because
 I grew up in a family where love was central and where lovely
 relationships were ever present.  It is quite easy for me to
 think of the universe as basically friendly mainly because of my
 uplifting hereditary and environmental circumstances.  It is
 quite easy for me to lean more toward optimism than pessimism
 about human nature mainly because of my childhood experiences.
 It is impossible to get at the roots of one's religious attitudes
 without taking in account the psychological and historical
 factors that play upon the individual.
  --Martin Luther King, Jr.
  If the people who started wars didn't make them sacred, who
 would be foolish enough to fight?

 --Rhett Butler

  True or false, that which is said of men often occupies as
 important a place in their lives, and above all in their
 destinies, as that which they do.

 --Victor Hugo

 It is not true that the saints and the great contemplatives never
 loved created things, and had no understanding or appreciation of
 the world, with its sights and sounds and the people living in
 it.  They loved everything and everyone.

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Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding

2008-08-08 Thread Orin
Shrug, I was a beta tester for VipMud. Should've suggested it to them.  
Oh well, can't do anything about it now.
On Aug 8, 2008, at 1:08 PM, Parham wrote:

 As far as I know, neither GMud nore VIPMud nore JACL nore MushClient  
 are
 supported. This information is old, so I stand to be corrected.
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 Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 6:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding


 Hi! I would be very interested in this information as well. I don't  
 use
 nvda, but  I have a friend that might benefit from it. Does nvda  
 work with
 Gmud at all?
 Thanks!
 Missy
 - Original Message -
 From: kelby carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:30 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding


 Dear List,

 Does anyone know of any MUD clients (a la Monkey Term) that work
 with the free screen reader NVDA?

 Kelby

 Doomed Dragon

 It is quite easy for me to think of a God of love mainly because
 I grew up in a family where love was central and where lovely
 relationships were ever present.  It is quite easy for me to
 think of the universe as basically friendly mainly because of my
 uplifting hereditary and environmental circumstances.  It is
 quite easy for me to lean more toward optimism than pessimism
 about human nature mainly because of my childhood experiences.
 It is impossible to get at the roots of one's religious attitudes
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Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding

2008-08-08 Thread Valiant8086
Hi.
You won't get NVDA to automatically read text unless you use a client that 
has a dos shell window and NVDA knows it.
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 Hi! I would be very interested in this information as well. I don't use
 nvda, but  I have a friend that might benefit from it. Does nvda work with
 Gmud at all?
 Thanks!
 Missy
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 Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:30 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding


 Dear List,

 Does anyone know of any MUD clients (a la Monkey Term) that work
 with the free screen reader NVDA?

 Kelby

 Doomed Dragon

 It is quite easy for me to think of a God of love mainly because
 I grew up in a family where love was central and where lovely
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 It is impossible to get at the roots of one's religious attitudes
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  --Martin Luther King, Jr.
  If the people who started wars didn't make them sacred, who
 would be foolish enough to fight?

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  True or false, that which is said of men often occupies as
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 destinies, as that which they do.

 --Victor Hugo

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Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding

2008-08-08 Thread constantine (on laptop)
Telnet is, however, supported, and since its on almost every system, and 
since NVDA is portable, it works out really really well. Sure telnet might 
not be great but it gets the job done and its what people started with, 
right? It gets the job done, and when I plug my USB thumb drive into someone 
elses computer its always good to know that I can play a mud without getting 
fancy with jaws and monkey term/vip mud etc.

I wonder how other free screen readers do with these clients?


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 As far as I know, neither GMud nore VIPMud nore JACL nore MushClient are
 supported. This information is old, so I stand to be corrected.
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 Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 6:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding


 Hi! I would be very interested in this information as well. I don't use
 nvda, but  I have a friend that might benefit from it. Does nvda work 
 with
 Gmud at all?
 Thanks!
 Missy
 - Original Message - 
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 To: gamers@audyssey.org
 Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:30 PM
 Subject: [Audyssey] NVDA and Mudding


 Dear List,

 Does anyone know of any MUD clients (a la Monkey Term) that work
 with the free screen reader NVDA?

 Kelby

 Doomed Dragon

 It is quite easy for me to think of a God of love mainly because
 I grew up in a family where love was central and where lovely
 relationships were ever present.  It is quite easy for me to
 think of the universe as basically friendly mainly because of my
 uplifting hereditary and environmental circumstances.  It is
 quite easy for me to lean more toward optimism than pessimism
 about human nature mainly because of my childhood experiences.
 It is impossible to get at the roots of one's religious attitudes
 without taking in account the psychological and historical
 factors that play upon the individual.
  --Martin Luther King, Jr.
  If the people who started wars didn't make them sacred, who
 would be foolish enough to fight?

 --Rhett Butler

  True or false, that which is said of men often occupies as
 important a place in their lives, and above all in their
 destinies, as that which they do.

 --Victor Hugo

 It is not true that the saints and the great contemplatives never
 loved created things, and had no understanding or appreciation of
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