Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Not really relevant, but finding the toolbox in Visual Studio.Net is just
the Ctrl + Alt + X keystroke when in design mode.
Then you just arrow up and down, using home key to get to first pointer item
in each grouping, and the left arrow key will close control groupings, and
the right arrow will open them up.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
- Original Message -
From: "Hayden Presley"
To: ; "'Gamers Discussion list'"
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hi Thomas,
One more thing--I did pick up a copy of VB .net from your site, and I find
the interphase not quite as good. With the VB6 scripts, I have been able
to
access the toolbox, and I find the user interphase better suited to JAWS,
in
my opinion. Finding everything, and knowing where everything will be sent
to
etc etc, is a bit mor confusing, in VB .net. Also, I thought the toolbox
was
a might strange as well. However, I think I might give it a whirl anyway,
and we'll see what happens...
Best Regards,
Hayden
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:57 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hi Milos,
Well, like so many things in life what is considered to be easy is
completely a personal opinion.So before we can really have a reasonable
discussion which language is the easiest we have to take in account what
you would consider easy.Still I don't know what you personally would
find easy I'll have to use my personal judgment here.
Personally, in all my years of programming the easiest language for me
to learn was C# .Net, called C-Sharp, because it has a C-style syntax
without all of the complexity of C++. However, since C# .Net wasn't one
of the options you have given me I'll try and compare the languages you
did request information on.
First, we have Python. As you pointed outyou didn't really understand
the language so perhaps it is not a language you would personally
consider easy.As for me I find the language easy enough to learn, but
what I find confusing is keeping track of the formatting and spacing to
define blocks of code. The formatting is a completely visual aid, and
therefore it is more difficult to keep track of the code when using a
screen reader. Other languages such as C++ and Java use braces to define
blocks of code which I personally find more logical and easier to keep
track of. So on account of the specific formatting and lack of syntax
makes Python not as easy as it could be.
As far as C++ goes it is the most difficult language on your list.The
basic functions, headers, and syntax are easy enough to learn, but C++
also puts a lot of the responcibility of doing all the advanced
low-level programming yourself.This is what trips up new programmers
because they simply aren't equipped to manage his/her system resources
on their own. For example,if you were to use system pointers in your C++
application to handle something like game sounds you have to remember to
manually delete those pointersand release the system memory back to
the free stack before loading new sounds or exiting the program. Failior
to do so could result in some major memory leaks in your application.
Unfortunately,asigning memory and cleanning up after you are done with
it is something many new programmers fail to do correctly and do poorly.
So C++ is largely considered an advanced programmer's language because
of the skill and experience required to truly master the language.
Ultimately I believe the easiest language on your list to learn is
Visual Basic. It was my first programming language, the one my college
taught first, and it is safe to say programmers generally find it to be
a good starter language in terms of ease of use. The one thing that
makes the basic type languages good choices for early programming
training is the fact they tend to usewords to define blocks of code
rather than relying on special formatting as Python does or relying on
braces and brackets as C-style languages do. Plus basic languages like
Visual Basic don't get into really advanced programming such as managing
resources and memory which is both a advnatage and disadvantage
depending on your outlook. So if you are talking where to start in terms
of ease to learn I'd say try VB .net.
Before I close I think it might be helpful to show you an example ofsome
different programming languages to give you a better idea of what I am
talking about above. I'll use a very simple program like Hello World as
my example.
// Hello World C++
#include
int main ()
{
std::cout << "Helo world!" << std::endl;
return 0;
}
' Hello World VB .Ne
Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hi Thomas,
One more thing--I did pick up a copy of VB .net from your site, and I find
the interphase not quite as good. With the VB6 scripts, I have been able to
access the toolbox, and I find the user interphase better suited to JAWS, in
my opinion. Finding everything, and knowing where everything will be sent to
etc etc, is a bit mor confusing, in VB .net. Also, I thought the toolbox was
a might strange as well. However, I think I might give it a whirl anyway,
and we'll see what happens...
Best Regards,
Hayden
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:57 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hi Milos,
Well, like so many things in life what is considered to be easy is
completely a personal opinion.So before we can really have a reasonable
discussion which language is the easiest we have to take in account what
you would consider easy.Still I don't know what you personally would
find easy I'll have to use my personal judgment here.
Personally, in all my years of programming the easiest language for me
to learn was C# .Net, called C-Sharp, because it has a C-style syntax
without all of the complexity of C++. However, since C# .Net wasn't one
of the options you have given me I'll try and compare the languages you
did request information on.
First, we have Python. As you pointed outyou didn't really understand
the language so perhaps it is not a language you would personally
consider easy.As for me I find the language easy enough to learn, but
what I find confusing is keeping track of the formatting and spacing to
define blocks of code. The formatting is a completely visual aid, and
therefore it is more difficult to keep track of the code when using a
screen reader. Other languages such as C++ and Java use braces to define
blocks of code which I personally find more logical and easier to keep
track of. So on account of the specific formatting and lack of syntax
makes Python not as easy as it could be.
As far as C++ goes it is the most difficult language on your list.The
basic functions, headers, and syntax are easy enough to learn, but C++
also puts a lot of the responcibility of doing all the advanced
low-level programming yourself.This is what trips up new programmers
because they simply aren't equipped to manage his/her system resources
on their own. For example,if you were to use system pointers in your C++
application to handle something like game sounds you have to remember to
manually delete those pointersand release the system memory back to
the free stack before loading new sounds or exiting the program. Failior
to do so could result in some major memory leaks in your application.
Unfortunately,asigning memory and cleanning up after you are done with
it is something many new programmers fail to do correctly and do poorly.
So C++ is largely considered an advanced programmer's language because
of the skill and experience required to truly master the language.
Ultimately I believe the easiest language on your list to learn is
Visual Basic. It was my first programming language, the one my college
taught first, and it is safe to say programmers generally find it to be
a good starter language in terms of ease of use. The one thing that
makes the basic type languages good choices for early programming
training is the fact they tend to usewords to define blocks of code
rather than relying on special formatting as Python does or relying on
braces and brackets as C-style languages do. Plus basic languages like
Visual Basic don't get into really advanced programming such as managing
resources and memory which is both a advnatage and disadvantage
depending on your outlook. So if you are talking where to start in terms
of ease to learn I'd say try VB .net.
Before I close I think it might be helpful to show you an example ofsome
different programming languages to give you a better idea of what I am
talking about above. I'll use a very simple program like Hello World as
my example.
// Hello World C++
#include
int main ()
{
std::cout << "Helo world!" << std::endl;
return 0;
}
' Hello World VB .Net
Module Hello
Sub Main ()
System.Console.WriteLine (0, "Hello world!")
End Sub
End Module
As you can see the VB .Net version of the typical Hello World program is
far simplar than it'sC++ counter part. As programs get bigger and more
complex the ease of use factor of VB .Net over C++ will only become
more so. The .Net Framework certainly simplifies many aspects of day to
day programming simply because all of the low-level stuff you have to do
in C++ is incorperated directly into the .Net Framework ready to pick up
and use right away.For example, in my VB .Net sample I called the
WriteLine() function. WriteLine() is actually a
Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hi Tom, Ah...well, at this point, I am just starting out, so am currently more focused on VB6, but if JAWS Scripting is related to C ++, hopefully I'll get around to it sooner or later. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:55 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison Hi Hayden, When it comes to the Jaws scripting language it helps to have a basic understanding of the Windows Win32 API which those scripts are based on. If you don't hunder stand things like hindow handles etc then you need to study the Win32 API or pay for one of the Freedom Scientific scripting classes where this stuff is explained in more detail. Fortunately, for me I already had C++ incolledge and had read my fair share of books on the Win32 API long before I started working with Jaws scripting so there was absolutely no confusion for me. So what you found to be a nightmare was prety easy for me. This is where having some skill in a language like C++ is very handy bcause pretty much everything leads back to it sooner or later. Just depends on how advanced you want to get with your programming project. On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 19:38 -0600, Hayden Presley wrote: > Hi, > Ah zcode...great format for IF Games. Comparing your others... Personally, I > fine VB6 (not that surprising) to te the easiest. You can do plenty with it, > though it is nainly a starting point. As for C ++...I don't have that much > experience with it, other than that it is quite different from Visual Basic > is. As for JAWS Scripting...unless Freedom Scientific have rewritten what > they call "the bssics of scripting" that is a nightmare to understand. I had > no understanding whatsoever as to what constants/variables/window handles > were used for. (This might have to do with the fact I had never looked at a > Computer programming manual before that beiseds Inform, itself not to good > an example of programming unless you have an engine already built, the JAWS > scripting was still difficult to understand. > Best Regards, > Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Thanks Jim! I believe I can contact you during my programming studying.
Best regards!
Milos Przic
msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com
skype: Milosh-hs
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Kitchen"
To: "Milos Przic"
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hi Milos,
I have programmed in Basic for thirty years. All of my windows games are
programmed in VB6. I do believe that VB6 is the easiest language to learn
and use. And that it can do anything that one would want it to do for
making an audio game.
Here is my VB6 Hello World program
a=MsgBox("Hello World","")
And from my free windows sapi5 text to speech games page.
guessvb.zip. is a simple sample guess the number game with it's VB6
source code. It uses the sapi5 text to speech engine and DirectX. I have
commented the code hopefully so that one can tell what each line of code
does. All of my code is in the guess.frm file and starts with the line
that reads
' Sample guess the number game By Jim Kitchen
HTH
BFN
Jim
I like Visual Basic 6.0 because I can not C.
j...@kitchensinc.net
http://www.kitchensinc.net
(440) 286-6920
Chardon Ohio USA
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Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hello Tom, Honestly I was expecting an explanation of this kind. Speaking of all that, I want to talk about my experience agreeing in some points of your explanation. You were telling me about the situation when a newbie doesn't know some programming terms. That was the case with me. I was studying about variables in the highschool, but didn't understand what it was. I started with the inform, red about variables, but still I couldn't understand it. Finally, I red about jaws scripting and bingo! Similar things happened with datatypes and some other terms. Now when I finally learned about variables and looked in an inform example, I understood what ment the thing like "let n be a random thing in the location." so I understood how variables (explained in the manuals using numbers and mathematics, and I am stupid when it comes to that) are used practically. Once I overcame those problems I think I can start with vb.net. As I can't find the messages that were posted recently on the list about all that, I would like if you Tom, or someone other, can point me out to a free version of vb if it exists. I am not in a quite good finansial situation now, so I don't want to buy something not knowing if I will succeed in it. Thanks for the explanation and for everything! Best regards! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4833 (20100203) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hi Milos,
I have programmed in Basic for thirty years. All of my windows games are
programmed in VB6. I do believe that VB6 is the easiest language to learn and
use. And that it can do anything that one would want it to do for making an
audio game.
Here is my VB6 Hello World program
a=MsgBox("Hello World","")
And from my free windows sapi5 text to speech games page.
guessvb.zip. is a simple sample guess the number game with it's VB6 source
code. It uses the sapi5 text to speech engine and DirectX. I have commented
the code hopefully so that one can tell what each line of code does. All of my
code is in the guess.frm file and starts with the line that reads
' Sample guess the number game By Jim Kitchen
HTH
BFN
Jim
I like Visual Basic 6.0 because I can not C.
j...@kitchensinc.net
http://www.kitchensinc.net
(440) 286-6920
Chardon Ohio USA
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Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hi Hayden, When it comes to the Jaws scripting language it helps to have a basic understanding of the Windows Win32 API which those scripts are based on. If you don't hunder stand things like hindow handles etc then you need to study the Win32 API or pay for one of the Freedom Scientific scripting classes where this stuff is explained in more detail. Fortunately, for me I already had C++ incolledge and had read my fair share of books on the Win32 API long before I started working with Jaws scripting so there was absolutely no confusion for me. So what you found to be a nightmare was prety easy for me. This is where having some skill in a language like C++ is very handy bcause pretty much everything leads back to it sooner or later. Just depends on how advanced you want to get with your programming project. On Wed, 2010-02-03 at 19:38 -0600, Hayden Presley wrote: > Hi, > Ah zcode...great format for IF Games. Comparing your others... Personally, I > fine VB6 (not that surprising) to te the easiest. You can do plenty with it, > though it is nainly a starting point. As for C ++...I don't have that much > experience with it, other than that it is quite different from Visual Basic > is. As for JAWS Scripting...unless Freedom Scientific have rewritten what > they call "the bssics of scripting" that is a nightmare to understand. I had > no understanding whatsoever as to what constants/variables/window handles > were used for. (This might have to do with the fact I had never looked at a > Computer programming manual before that beiseds Inform, itself not to good > an example of programming unless you have an engine already built, the JAWS > scripting was still difficult to understand. > Best Regards, > Hayden --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hi Milos,
Well, like so many things in life what is considered to be easy is
completely a personal opinion.So before we can really have a reasonable
discussion which language is the easiest we have to take in account what
you would consider easy.Still I don't know what you personally would
find easy I'll have to use my personal judgment here.
Personally, in all my years of programming the easiest language for me
to learn was C# .Net, called C-Sharp, because it has a C-style syntax
without all of the complexity of C++. However, since C# .Net wasn't one
of the options you have given me I'll try and compare the languages you
did request information on.
First, we have Python. As you pointed outyou didn't really understand
the language so perhaps it is not a language you would personally
consider easy.As for me I find the language easy enough to learn, but
what I find confusing is keeping track of the formatting and spacing to
define blocks of code. The formatting is a completely visual aid, and
therefore it is more difficult to keep track of the code when using a
screen reader. Other languages such as C++ and Java use braces to define
blocks of code which I personally find more logical and easier to keep
track of. So on account of the specific formatting and lack of syntax
makes Python not as easy as it could be.
As far as C++ goes it is the most difficult language on your list.The
basic functions, headers, and syntax are easy enough to learn, but C++
also puts a lot of the responcibility of doing all the advanced
low-level programming yourself.This is what trips up new programmers
because they simply aren't equipped to manage his/her system resources
on their own. For example,if you were to use system pointers in your C++
application to handle something like game sounds you have to remember to
manually delete those pointersand release the system memory back to
the free stack before loading new sounds or exiting the program. Failior
to do so could result in some major memory leaks in your application.
Unfortunately,asigning memory and cleanning up after you are done with
it is something many new programmers fail to do correctly and do poorly.
So C++ is largely considered an advanced programmer's language because
of the skill and experience required to truly master the language.
Ultimately I believe the easiest language on your list to learn is
Visual Basic. It was my first programming language, the one my college
taught first, and it is safe to say programmers generally find it to be
a good starter language in terms of ease of use. The one thing that
makes the basic type languages good choices for early programming
training is the fact they tend to usewords to define blocks of code
rather than relying on special formatting as Python does or relying on
braces and brackets as C-style languages do. Plus basic languages like
Visual Basic don't get into really advanced programming such as managing
resources and memory which is both a advnatage and disadvantage
depending on your outlook. So if you are talking where to start in terms
of ease to learn I'd say try VB .net.
Before I close I think it might be helpful to show you an example ofsome
different programming languages to give you a better idea of what I am
talking about above. I'll use a very simple program like Hello World as
my example.
// Hello World C++
#include
int main ()
{
std::cout << "Helo world!" << std::endl;
return 0;
}
' Hello World VB .Net
Module Hello
Sub Main ()
System.Console.WriteLine (0, "Hello world!")
End Sub
End Module
As you can see the VB .Net version of the typical Hello World program is
far simplar than it'sC++ counter part. As programs get bigger and more
complex the ease of use factor of VB .Net over C++ will only become
more so. The .Net Framework certainly simplifies many aspects of day to
day programming simply because all of the low-level stuff you have to do
in C++ is incorperated directly into the .Net Framework ready to pick up
and use right away.For example, in my VB .Net sample I called the
WriteLine() function. WriteLine() is actually a .Net wrapper function
for the cout function used in the C++ code above. In larger more
complex applications such as games this really pays off.
One example that comes to mind is using the Microsoft XAudio2 library
forgames. If you use the C++ library you pretty much have to design a
custom sound manager from scratch to load wav files and get their
attributes. Microsoft has sample code showing you how to do this, but
never-the-less it is quite a lot to ask from a totally new programmer.
If you use the C# .Net or VB .Net language with the SlimDX API for
DirectX you don't have to worry bout all that low-level stuff.You simply
make a link to the SlimDX library, include the XAudio2 namespace, and
start programing since all the really low-level stuff is already taken
care of for you. All you need to do is call the proper load functions
and initialization fu
Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hi Milos,
Well, like so many things in life what is considered to be easy is
completely a personal opinion.So before we can really have a reasonable
discussion which language is the easiest we have to take in account what
you would consider easy.Still I don't know what you personally would
find easy I'll have to use my personal judgment here.
Personally, in all my years of programming the easiest language for me
to learn was C# .Net, called C-Sharp, because it has a C-style syntax
without all of the complexity of C++. However, since C# .Net wasn't one
of the options you have given me I'll try and compare the languages you
did request information on.
First, we have Python. As you pointed outyou didn't really understand
the language so perhaps it is not a language you would personally
consider easy.As for me I find the language easy enough to learn, but
what I find confusing is keeping track of the formatting and spacing to
define blocks of code. The formatting is a completely visual aid, and
therefore it is more difficult to keep track of the code when using a
screen reader. Other languages such as C++ and Java use braces to define
blocks of code which I personally find more logical and easier to keep
track of. So on account of the specific formatting and lack of syntax
makes Python not as easy as it could be.
As far as C++ goes it is the most difficult language on your list.The
basic functions, headers, and syntax are easy enough to learn, but C++
also puts a lot of the responcibility of doing all the advanced
low-level programming yourself.This is what trips up new programmers
because they simply aren't equipped to manage his/her system resources
on their own. For example,if you were to use system pointers in your C++
application to handle something like game sounds you have to remember to
manually delete those pointersand release the system memory back to
the free stack before loading new sounds or exiting the program. Failior
to do so could result in some major memory leaks in your application.
Unfortunately,asigning memory and cleanning up after you are done with
it is something many new programmers fail to do correctly and do poorly.
So C++ is largely considered an advanced programmer's language because
of the skill and experience required to truly master the language.
Ultimately I believe the easiest language on your list to learn is
Visual Basic. It was my first programming language, the one my college
taught first, and it is safe to say programmers generally find it to be
a good starter language in terms of ease of use. The one thing that
makes the basic type languages good choices for early programming
training is the fact they tend to usewords to define blocks of code
rather than relying on special formatting as Python does or relying on
braces and brackets as C-style languages do. Plus basic languages like
Visual Basic don't get into really advanced programming such as managing
resources and memory which is both a advnatage and disadvantage
depending on your outlook. So if you are talking where to start in terms
of ease to learn I'd say try VB .net.
Before I close I think it might be helpful to show you an example ofsome
different programming languages to give you a better idea of what I am
talking about above. I'll use a very simple program like Hello World as
my example.
// Hello World C++
#include
int main ()
{
std::cout << "Helo world!" << std::endl;
return 0;
}
' Hello World VB .Net
Module Hello
Sub Main ()
System.Console.WriteLine (0, "Hello world!")
End Sub
End Module
As you can see the VB .Net version of the typical Hello World program is
far simplar than it'sC++ counter part. As programs get bigger and more
complex the ease of use factor of VB .Net over C++ will only become
more so. The .Net Framework certainly simplifies many aspects of day to
day programming simply because all of the low-level stuff you have to do
in C++ is incorperated directly into the .Net Framework ready to pick up
and use right away.For example, in my VB .Net sample I called the
WriteLine() function. WriteLine() is actually a .Net wrapper function
for the cout function used in the C++ code above. In larger more
complex applications such as games this really pays off.
One example that comes to mind is using the Microsoft XAudio2 library
forgames. If you use the C++ library you pretty much have to design a
custom sound manager from scratch to load wav files and get their
attributes. Microsoft has sample code showing you how to do this, but
never-the-less it is quite a lot to ask from a totally new programmer.
If you use the C# .Net or VB .Net language with the SlimDX API for
DirectX you don't have to worry bout all that low-level stuff.You simply
make a link to the SlimDX library, include the XAudio2 namespace, and
start programing since all the really low-level stuff is already taken
care of for you. All you need to do is call the proper load functions
and initialization fu
Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hi, Ah zcode...great format for IF Games. Comparing your others... Personally, I fine VB6 (not that surprising) to te the easiest. You can do plenty with it, though it is nainly a starting point. As for C ++...I don't have that much experience with it, other than that it is quite different from Visual Basic is. As for JAWS Scripting...unless Freedom Scientific have rewritten what they call "the bssics of scripting" that is a nightmare to understand. I had no understanding whatsoever as to what constants/variables/window handles were used for. (This might have to do with the fact I had never looked at a Computer programming manual before that beiseds Inform, itself not to good an example of programming unless you have an engine already built, the JAWS scripting was still difficult to understand. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Milos Przic Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:02 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison Hello all, As I am still newbie in programming, I would like to ask those of you who know, to compare the languages that I will mension here. The only thing I want to compare is how easy the language is to learn and why. For now I can program in the inform 7, and have learned jaws scripting. I tried python but I canceled studying because I didn't understand a single thing. So let's compare the inform 7, python, jaws scripting, vb 6, and c++ from the aspect of how easy they are to be understood. This question may seam stupid to experts, but still I would like the opinions on this. Best regards! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4831 (20100203) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Don't know too many of the others, but the origin of the name of basic was
something along the lines of:
Beginner's All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code
honestly it was the closest to a programming language that had real english
terms in it's syntax, but on the other hand that was based on things like
QBasic a long time ago - over 20 years ago.
It just meant it was partly, and sort of designed to be a starting point in
terms of learning to program, but, yes, VB.Net is a bit different, but
suppose it still does things like For..Next, instead of for () { }, like C#
for example.
Stay well
Stay well
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Skype: BlindZA
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From: "Milos Przic"
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Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 7:01 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hello all,
As I am still newbie in programming, I would like to ask those of you
who know, to compare the languages that I will mension here. The only
thing I want to compare is how easy the language is to learn and why. For
now I can program in the inform 7, and have learned jaws scripting. I
tried python but I canceled studying because I didn't understand a single
thing. So let's compare the inform 7, python, jaws scripting, vb 6, and
c++ from the aspect of how easy they are to be understood.
This question may seam stupid to experts, but still I would like the
opinions on this.
Best regards!
Milos Przic
msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com
skype: Milosh-hs
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[Audyssey] Programming language comparison
Hello all, As I am still newbie in programming, I would like to ask those of you who know, to compare the languages that I will mension here. The only thing I want to compare is how easy the language is to learn and why. For now I can program in the inform 7, and have learned jaws scripting. I tried python but I canceled studying because I didn't understand a single thing. So let's compare the inform 7, python, jaws scripting, vb 6, and c++ from the aspect of how easy they are to be understood. This question may seam stupid to experts, but still I would like the opinions on this. Best regards! Milos Przic msn: milos.pr...@gmail.com skype: Milosh-hs __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4831 (20100203) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gam...@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
