Re: [Audyssey] Going to be picking up the Logitech F 510 that everyone's been recommending
My x arcade stick cost me about 70 pounds or about 120 dollars. Yes, this is expensive, but sinse a bog standard joypad goes for about 30 it wasn't too bad, and my stick does come with the lifetime guarantee. Pluss as I said, if I want to use it on another console it will just take a fiver or so for the adapter. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Going to be picking up the Logitech F 510 that everyone's been recommending Hi Ron, Ron wrote: We're looking for something with around fifteen to twenty function buttons, two sticks and of course force feedback for the newer up coming hand to ear flight simulators and the hand to ear games. My reply: Well, to be honest I really haven't seen anything like that around. At least nothing I can afford. From what I've seen the average joystick in the $25 to $50 range has between 10 and 12 buttons, duel thumb sticks, and perhaps a POV hat. Something like you are describing would be in the $99 and up catagory. Since I can't afford anything like that I haven't looked too closely into those kinds of controllers. I do well enough to purchase something like the Logitech F510 which seems to meet all of my personal needs anyway. The thing is if you can use button combos you probably don't need 15 to 20 buttons anyway. What I'm looking into doing if there is demand for it is to be able to setup a modifier button which allows you to perform multiple actions with the same button. For instance, normally button 1 might be the fire button. However, if button 7 is a modifier button and is held down while pressing button 1 it will speak ammo instead. So although you might have 10 buttons with a modifier button you can asign 18 actions to that joystick. Considerably more actions if you have a secondary modifier button etc. So 20 buttons isn't really necessary all things considered. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Going to be picking up the Logitech F 510 that everyone's been recommending
Hi Ron, Ron wrote: We're looking for something with around fifteen to twenty function buttons, two sticks and of course force feedback for the newer up coming hand to ear flight simulators and the hand to ear games. My reply: Well, to be honest I really haven't seen anything like that around. At least nothing I can afford. From what I've seen the average joystick in the $25 to $50 range has between 10 and 12 buttons, duel thumb sticks, and perhaps a POV hat. Something like you are describing would be in the $99 and up catagory. Since I can't afford anything like that I haven't looked too closely into those kinds of controllers. I do well enough to purchase something like the Logitech F510 which seems to meet all of my personal needs anyway. The thing is if you can use button combos you probably don't need 15 to 20 buttons anyway. What I'm looking into doing if there is demand for it is to be able to setup a modifier button which allows you to perform multiple actions with the same button. For instance, normally button 1 might be the fire button. However, if button 7 is a modifier button and is held down while pressing button 1 it will speak ammo instead. So although you might have 10 buttons with a modifier button you can asign 18 actions to that joystick. Considerably more actions if you have a secondary modifier button etc. So 20 buttons isn't really necessary all things considered. Cheers! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Going to be picking up the Logitech F 510 that everyone's been recommending
Tom, I have some sad news to report. I'm going to ask for some help from my fellow blind gamers who like myself are looking to untie themselves from the keyboard as well. Would you agree or disagree with the following? We're looking for something with around fifteen to twenty function buttons, two sticks and of course force feedback for the newer up coming hand to ear flight simulators and the hand to ear games. The place that my dad just came back from their controllers had only seven buttons on them if you were lucky. The controllers were for the game consoles and not for a PC. I'm going to try and do some research like I always do when I'm looking for something. But I think I speak for everyone from this list when I say that none of us like shopping through a catalog. Because unless we have it in our hand to physically look at the device we're looking for we can't see the unit. For myself, I like to be able to stress test a device. But most of the time anymore a company wants a restocking fee. Because passing accurate info is tricky anymore, I won't pass a recommendation to this list or to anyone unless I've had a chance to play with and or test out a unit so that I can give my opinion good or bad about a product. We're also going to be looking for a USB controller that will handle the new windows and or cross playing platforms as well. I throw this out to this list because it is a list for blind gamers to try and help out one another. Also for myself, I haven't been playing games because of some serious health issues which a trusted few know about. But when I play something, I look for something as real as possible. So let's all pull our resources together and find a USB handheld unit that we might be able to use. I thank you all. Ron and four pawed game cheater Leader Dog Boz who states that having four paws beats only having two hands all of the time. Fellow game player Ron Kolesar Ron Kolesar kolesar16...@roadrunner.com -- From: "Thomas Ward" Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:45 PM To: "Gamers Discussion list" Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Going to be picking up the Logitech F 510 that everyone's been recommending > Hi Ron, > > Well, like I said before I haven't noticed any problems with the unit, > but then again I only have a 32-bit system running Windows 7. So > things might work differently on the newer 64-bit systems. I just > don't know about that. > > However, as a game developer I'd like to know what you find out. One > of the things I'm strongly thinking about is switching over to XInput > for game controller support. That way I can support the XBox 360 > controllers as well as provide support for things like the Logitech > F510 using the newer APIs. That may make a diference on newer > platforms like Windows 7 which has a version of DirectX far newer than > that of XP by default. > > On 4/12/11, Ron Kolesar wrote: >> Hi To one and all. >> Like the subject states. >> I'm going to be picking up the Logitech F 510 USB hand controller like >> everyone has been enjoying. >> I picked up the Logitech F710 unit and I couldn't get it to work. Plus, I >> had to hold down on the force feedback button so that the force feedback >> feature would work at that wasn't any fun. >> So since everyone has been recommending the logitech F 510 I thought that >> I >> too would pick it up to test it out with the hand to ear games and TDV. >> For those using it can you use it with Three D Velocity and Blast Chamber >> from Blind software , for starters. >> To bad we can't find the major USB handheld controllers and see which >> hand >> to ear product they'll work with and which one's they won't. And which >> one's have force feedback and which ones do not as well. >> I'm using Win 7 and a 64 bit processor and roomer has it that Windows is >> forcing you to use the genarick force feed back instead of the force >> feedback that comes with the USB controllers. >> Will keep you all in the loop. >> Ron who's looking for something to untie himself from the keyboard. >> Ron Kolesar >> kolesar16...@roadrunner.com >> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding th
Re: [Audyssey] Going to be picking up the Logitech F 510 that everyone's been recommending
Hi Ron, Well, like I said before I haven't noticed any problems with the unit, but then again I only have a 32-bit system running Windows 7. So things might work differently on the newer 64-bit systems. I just don't know about that. However, as a game developer I'd like to know what you find out. One of the things I'm strongly thinking about is switching over to XInput for game controller support. That way I can support the XBox 360 controllers as well as provide support for things like the Logitech F510 using the newer APIs. That may make a diference on newer platforms like Windows 7 which has a version of DirectX far newer than that of XP by default. On 4/12/11, Ron Kolesar wrote: > Hi To one and all. > Like the subject states. > I'm going to be picking up the Logitech F 510 USB hand controller like > everyone has been enjoying. > I picked up the Logitech F710 unit and I couldn't get it to work. Plus, I > had to hold down on the force feedback button so that the force feedback > feature would work at that wasn't any fun. > So since everyone has been recommending the logitech F 510 I thought that I > too would pick it up to test it out with the hand to ear games and TDV. > For those using it can you use it with Three D Velocity and Blast Chamber > from Blind software , for starters. > To bad we can't find the major USB handheld controllers and see which hand > to ear product they'll work with and which one's they won't. And which > one's have force feedback and which ones do not as well. > I'm using Win 7 and a 64 bit processor and roomer has it that Windows is > forcing you to use the genarick force feed back instead of the force > feedback that comes with the USB controllers. > Will keep you all in the loop. > Ron who's looking for something to untie himself from the keyboard. > Ron Kolesar > kolesar16...@roadrunner.com > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.