Re: [Audyssey] Programming elitists was: Re: Jeremy'sincredible programming speed
well tom has obviously been on the gverge of burnout. I think devs in general should have blogs like they do at greymatter. Firstly it means they can be as open as they wish. Secondly they can update when they wish. Greymatter has not updated in a while, but I check the blog every day and eventually they will update or something. so hmmm there could be issues with this to. I have no idea how tom has been able to be as open as he has with all of us. He has load of info, trying different languages, eventually finding a load of the basic stuff to restricting for what he wanted. It all depends where you are with programming. Each language has limits. Its true that most of us will neever reach those But if you are doing something like writing an os or something then using something that is unrestricted as possible is probably the plan. I guess I'd put all the others as lazy languages after I got that high level. Ofcause that level is not for most me included. I prefur to use the lazier way like one of the vb or dotnet languages or engines where all the hard work is done. Its prefferences. the same argument goes with screenreaders, arguments like this often serfice on thech lists. Everything has their strong and week points. I have 2 readers I use, Used to have 3. The same is with just about every program and thing in existance. At 10:59 p.m. 20/07/2011, you wrote: I can't honestly say I wouldn't have reacted the same way. If I'd taken on projects someone else had abandoned only to have people constantly harrassing me about when the games were coming out or about the methods and programming language I used I'd probably have snapped long before Thomas did. THat said I still have a lot of respect for the guy. Yeah he's made his mistakes in the past but like I said, if it'd been me I'd have probably gotten myself banned from the list simply because of my frustration with what I must say is a rather ungreatful community. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "darren harris" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming elitists was: Re: Jeremy'sincredible programming speed Well said. Remember the whole piracy issue? When Thomas decided to post a request for a graphic novel on the list and then pleaded it was a mistake? Well he should have gone then really because he was quite happy to threaten moderation or banning on people for posting pirated content. So he proved then he had double standards. When I proved this publically on list he privately emailed me and said apologise or I'll put you on moderated. He must have expected me to beg forgiveness. Which I didn't. suffice to say I got put on moderated but that never bothered me because after all said and done, I new that I was right and he was wrong and I wasn't about to devalue what I said for apologising for something that I saw no need for apologising for. Today we've seen yet another example of his true colours the difference is now he's stepped way over the line far more than any owner of this list can justify. He has to go now pure and simple. Even if the owner was to say no let him stay well who's going to respect him now? he's done his own damage really. Personally I'm not sorry to see him go. I new it was only a matter of time before something else happened and it has. oh well never mind he mentioned James north as well, well I didn't like him either so either way it's no real big loss. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming elitists was: Re: Jeremy'sincredible programming speed
Hi, IT's funny. If we all took that same viewpoit, we would be in quite a fix. I'm sure judges have sentenced people for forgery, yet I am sure they have lied. So, based on your way of thinking, these people had no right to sentence people for this kind of offense. After all the work the guy has put into his games, after all the attacks he has had, I am shocked you even have the gaul to say that kind of thing. Best Regards, Hayden -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:59 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming elitists was: Re: Jeremy'sincredible programming speed I can't honestly say I wouldn't have reacted the same way. If I'd taken on projects someone else had abandoned only to have people constantly harrassing me about when the games were coming out or about the methods and programming language I used I'd probably have snapped long before Thomas did. THat said I still have a lot of respect for the guy. Yeah he's made his mistakes in the past but like I said, if it'd been me I'd have probably gotten myself banned from the list simply because of my frustration with what I must say is a rather ungreatful community. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "darren harris" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming elitists was: Re: Jeremy'sincredible programming speed > Well said. > > Remember the whole piracy issue? When Thomas decided to post a request for > a > graphic novel on the list and then pleaded it was a mistake? Well he > should > have gone then really because he was quite happy to threaten moderation or > banning on people for posting pirated content. So he proved then he had > double standards. When I proved this publically on list he privately > emailed > me and said apologise or I'll put you on moderated. He must have expected > me > to beg forgiveness. Which I didn't. suffice to say I got put on moderated > but that never bothered me because after all said and done, I new that I > was > right and he was wrong and I wasn't about to devalue what I said for > apologising for something that I saw no need for apologising for. > > Today we've seen yet another example of his true colours the difference is > now he's stepped way over the line far more than any owner of this list > can > justify. He has to go now pure and simple. Even if the owner was to say no > let him stay well who's going to respect him now? he's done his own damage > really. > > Personally I'm not sorry to see him go. I new it was only a matter of time > before something else happened and it has. oh well never mind he mentioned > James north as well, well I didn't like him either so either way it's no > real big loss. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1518/3775 - Release Date: 07/19/11 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Programming elitists was: Re: Jeremy'sincredible programming speed
I can't honestly say I wouldn't have reacted the same way. If I'd taken on projects someone else had abandoned only to have people constantly harrassing me about when the games were coming out or about the methods and programming language I used I'd probably have snapped long before Thomas did. THat said I still have a lot of respect for the guy. Yeah he's made his mistakes in the past but like I said, if it'd been me I'd have probably gotten myself banned from the list simply because of my frustration with what I must say is a rather ungreatful community. We are the Knights who say...Ni! - Original Message - From: "darren harris" To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Programming elitists was: Re: Jeremy'sincredible programming speed Well said. Remember the whole piracy issue? When Thomas decided to post a request for a graphic novel on the list and then pleaded it was a mistake? Well he should have gone then really because he was quite happy to threaten moderation or banning on people for posting pirated content. So he proved then he had double standards. When I proved this publically on list he privately emailed me and said apologise or I'll put you on moderated. He must have expected me to beg forgiveness. Which I didn't. suffice to say I got put on moderated but that never bothered me because after all said and done, I new that I was right and he was wrong and I wasn't about to devalue what I said for apologising for something that I saw no need for apologising for. Today we've seen yet another example of his true colours the difference is now he's stepped way over the line far more than any owner of this list can justify. He has to go now pure and simple. Even if the owner was to say no let him stay well who's going to respect him now? he's done his own damage really. Personally I'm not sorry to see him go. I new it was only a matter of time before something else happened and it has. oh well never mind he mentioned James north as well, well I didn't like him either so either way it's no real big loss. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
