Re: [Audyssey] Copyrights and Commercial Games.

2008-03-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ryan, Technically yes, but there are fair use exceptions that may protect you from a law suit. If you published your Super Mario as non-prophet, educational software, with disclaimers there is a very large chance someone like Nintendo would leave you alone. Usually most copyright

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrights and Commercial Games.

2008-03-17 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ryan, Pretty much. If you change the names of characters, use generic characters, and remove the more copyright elements from a game company x can eat rice cakes. For example, on the USA Games list I stated if Phil removed the names for the gosts, ccat, and Dobbi and called them mail ghost,

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrights and Commercial Games.

2008-03-16 Thread Ryan Smith
So, let's say I wanted to take super mario brothers, port it to vb6, clearly state that Nintendo did all the ideas, and all I did was make it accessible, I could then be sued for copyright infringement? Thanks -Ryan Smith www.rsgames.co.nr --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrights and Commercial Games.

2008-03-16 Thread Ryan Smith
Hi, So according to my understanding, instead of let's say using a goomba as an enemy, I can call him let's say stompy, and Nintendo can eat rice cakes? lol -Ryan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes

Re: [Audyssey] Copyrights and Commercial Games.

2008-03-16 Thread Bryan Peterson
is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: Ryan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Copyrights and Commercial Games. So, let's say I wanted to take super mario brothers, port

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-02-01 Thread Bryan
PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights hi thomas, When I learn visual basic, probably when i go back to college, and if I make games and use copyrighted material: I will just use the sounds

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-02-01 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, All I can say is best of luck. I personally don't think using copyrighted material without the copyright holders permission is a good idea, but I'm not going to argue with someone if they want to try it and see how it goes. I did it with STFC and everything went well, but I don't want

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-02-01 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, Yes, but donations never return the same kind of income that selling a product does. Personally, i think my plan for Tomb Hunter is the right way to do it. I am going to officially release the game with a different character, music, and effects but offer say a download with official TR

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-02-01 Thread Bryan
PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights Hi Josh, All I can say is best of luck. I personally don't think using copyrighted material without the copyright holders permission is a good idea, but I'm not going

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-02-01 Thread blindguy250
Cared - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights Hi Josh, All I can say is best of luck. I personally don't think using copyrighted material without

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-02-01 Thread josh
hey that sounds excellent. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights Hi Josh, Yes, but donations never return the same kind of income that selling

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-31 Thread josh
so thomas could still sell his starwars game? - Original Message - From: Che [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights If any developers have thoughts of using any copyrighted material

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-31 Thread Liam Erven
it just means that if thomas is sued, he will just be sued for company property instead of personal property. - Original Message - From: josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights so

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-31 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan, That is exactly the issue I am facing. If I release my Tomb Raider game and Star Wars games as fan fiction, make them open source, etc it might be enough to cover my butt legally since I did not technically make any money off the games. However, that still breaks the part of the end

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-31 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, Unfortunately, that kind of thinking doesn't do anyone any good. That won't stop them for suing for damages if they decided to take it to that extreme. Besides which if they get a court order to destroy my materials and I fail to comply with that court order that could be seenas

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-31 Thread Thomas Ward
@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights yes true. Lucas arts is just greedy greedy greedy that's all. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-31 Thread Bryan
. Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights Hi Bryan, That is exactly the issue I am facing. If I release my

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-31 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, Not legally. All an LLC means is that USA Games, not me personally, would get sued for damages and they could get a court order to close USA Games down or charge royalties from USA Games which would kill the company in any case. You have to understand here I started USA Games as a

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-31 Thread josh
you could encourage people to donate money. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights Hi Josh, Unfortunately, that kind of thinking doesn't do

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-31 Thread shaun everiss
: [Audyssey] copyrights Hi Josh, Unfortunately, that kind of thinking doesn't do anyone any good. That won't stop them for suing for damages if they decided to take it to that extreme. Besides which if they get a court order to destroy my materials and I fail to comply with that court order

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-31 Thread josh
Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights Hi Bryan, That is exactly the issue I am facing. If I release my Tomb Raider game and Star Wars games as fan fiction, make them open source, etc it might be enough to cover my butt

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-30 Thread josh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights Hi Bryan, Oh, yeah. Lucas Arts is very protective of their Star Wars copyrights. Have you read the Star Wars terms of use lately? If not here is a small quote

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-30 Thread Charles Rivard
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights Hi thomas, if i were you, I would make the game, and then if they ask you to destroy it, say, well you see, I'd really like to, but the game has already been sold to blind people all over the world including in the middle eastern countries. - Original Message

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-30 Thread Bryan
Message - From: josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights Hi thomas, if i were you, I would make the game, and then if they ask you to destroy it, say, well you see, I'd really like

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-30 Thread josh
yes true. Lucas arts is just greedy greedy greedy that's all. - Original Message - From: Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights That probably wouldn't be smart. At least if he

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-30 Thread Bryan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights yes true. Lucas arts is just greedy greedy greedy that's all. - Original Message - From: Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-30 Thread Che
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights In which case, he'd! be! busted! Very, very bad idea. --- If you don't stand behind our troops, please, feel free ... to stand in front of them! - Original Message - From: josh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ari, That goes without saying. A Star Wars license is nice, but a mantion with my own Limo driver is nicer. Grin ari wrote: And Tom, if you're ever somehow manage to become a millionaire, I'm sure you'd rather use the money for better things than a starwars license! Ari --- Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-28 Thread Bryan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] copyrights Hi Ari, That goes without saying. A Star Wars license is nice, but a mantion with my own Limo driver is nicer. Grin ari wrote: And Tom, if you're ever

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan, Oh, yeah. Lucas Arts is very protective of their Star Wars copyrights. Have you read the Star Wars terms of use lately? If not here is a small quote from the Star Wars terms of use snipped from their license agreement. Quote STAR WARS; STAR WARS : EPISODE I THE PHANTOM MENACE; STAR

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi William, First, I'd like to point out that only a couple of sounds were used from Tomb Raider. More specifically the death, jump, and pain sounds for Angela Summers were taken from Tomb Raider II. However, I could easily remove them upon request from Edos or Core Design without too much

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi William, Unfortunately, it is near impossible for a small time developer to get legal permission to use big name copyrights. Especially, million dollar copyrights such as Star Wars, Star Trek, and Tomb Raider. I've already been down that road with very nasty and negative results to show for

Re: [Audyssey] copyrights

2008-01-27 Thread ari
And Tom, if you're ever somehow manage to become a millionaire, I'm sure you'd rather use the money for better things than a starwars license! Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can make changes or update your