Re: [Audyssey] gaming on windows tablets?

2016-01-27 Thread Shaun Everiss
Well its why I decided to have an internal hdd instead of the flash I 
really want to store more than 128gb of stuff and want to carry round stuff.
Yes I have a couple portable seagate drives but I am not sure if I want 
to take round 150 dollar drives round unnecessarily.
This 500gb drive stores all the stuff I want, my apps, my music, a few 
sfx libraries and still has some space left.
My external storesstuff I don't want, my audio books, tv shows stuff I 
don't want to take round with me.
Now if I did manage to get an ssd/ hdd combo with 1tb I guess I could 
store my drives on the internal drive and never worry about them but 
they are good for backup.




On 16/01/2016 1:42 p.m., Dakotah Rickard wrote:

Or cycling through a case of sd cards. That's a slightly frustrating
experience, but it works.

On 12/17/15, john <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com> wrote:

You will not get a large amount of storage with a tablet. If that's a major

point for you, its laptop or external hdd only.

--
From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_har...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 10:16
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] gaming on windows tablets?

Hi,

Thanks for this.

Do you know how well window eyes would work on 1 of these tablets? This is
the screen reader that I use.

In addition, have you seen a surface? Are they any good?

I've had laptops over the years and whilst I do like them, the biggest
problem I think for me with laptops is that they are quite heavy and the
battery never seems to last that long.


Having been an iPad user for around 3 years now I've gotten used to the
long
battery life an iPad bosts. I do use a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPad.

So yes I'm looking for something that's small ish but not too small as to
not be compatible with things, pretty powerful obviously with plenty of
space on the drive.

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dakotah
Rickard
Sent: 17 December 2015 15:03
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] gaming on windows tablets?

Hi. I have used a Dell Venue 8 Pro 64 GB tablet now as my primary Windows
device for about a year.
It has the Atom processor they all have, which escapes my memory at the
moment, but I know it's a z something. They either all have the f or g
varient of that processor until you get into the laptop price point, where
you start seeing intel Core brand.
The thing is the one I've tried is a 2 GB ram variety. I wanted to see what
a 1 GB was like, but I imagine it makes much more use of the page file and
therefore suffers a little.
They all use MMC, which is like an sd card, until you get into big name
ones
like the Ms Surface. I can tell you this right now. We do not have any
games
that will tax the system. If you want to play Swamp, either get a bluetooth
mouse or something similar, and you'll be fine.
I'm about to go into technical stuff. I've finished my basic info packet,
so
if you're not interested in product reviews and recommended configurations,
you can stop here.
As I said, I used the Dell Venue 8 Pro. I bought it as an early adopter.
The
Windows tablet market has exploded at this point manufatcturers popping up
with new ones fairly frequently. When I bought in, there were just a few:
the Dell Venue 8 Pro series (one with 32 gb and 1 gig of ram, the other,
mine, with 64 gb and 2 gigs of ram), the Toshiba Encore 2 (with similar
specs), the Lenovo Miix2 which was in my oppinion, the worse buy), and the
TransformerBook by either Asus or Acer (I have a hard time with keeping
those straight).
My Dell has served me well. I bought a Fintie Folio case which came with a
bluetooth 3.0 keyboard. It basically was a laptop when unfolded. I also
bought a bluetooth mouse. Both are sufficient for gaming, though the
keyboard is a little bit truncated. If you take gaming very seriously, I
suggest a workstation setup at home with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard and
mouse, or a keyboard with trackpad if you prefer.
Please be aware that any of those early adopters tend to have some slight
issues. My Dell wireless card occasionally decides to flip out, taking the
bluetooth with it. A quick restart generally fixes this, but It's something
to be aware of, especially if you don't take the time to learn how to use
your touchscreen with a screen reader. Speaking of screen readers, I
haven't
used the Jaws For Windows screen reader in several years. NVDA is my
current
preference, and it works well enough on my tablet. In fact, I strongly
suggest the touchscreen add-on, as the tablet's touchscreen can actually be
quite useful. Aside from this, I have used Microsoft Narrator with great
success on a keyboard and on the touchscreen. Far gone are the days where
Narrator is a joke. NVDA is better, but Narrator is far from crap. It's
probably right around as good as Talkback, if you use Android,

Re: [Audyssey] gaming on windows tablets?

2016-01-24 Thread Dakotah Rickard
Or cycling through a case of sd cards. That's a slightly frustrating
experience, but it works.

On 12/17/15, john <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You will not get a large amount of storage with a tablet. If that's a major
>
> point for you, its laptop or external hdd only.
>
> --
> From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_har...@btinternet.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 10:16
> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] gaming on windows tablets?
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for this.
>
> Do you know how well window eyes would work on 1 of these tablets? This is
> the screen reader that I use.
>
> In addition, have you seen a surface? Are they any good?
>
> I've had laptops over the years and whilst I do like them, the biggest
> problem I think for me with laptops is that they are quite heavy and the
> battery never seems to last that long.
>
>
> Having been an iPad user for around 3 years now I've gotten used to the
> long
> battery life an iPad bosts. I do use a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPad.
>
> So yes I'm looking for something that's small ish but not too small as to
> not be compatible with things, pretty powerful obviously with plenty of
> space on the drive.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dakotah
> Rickard
> Sent: 17 December 2015 15:03
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] gaming on windows tablets?
>
> Hi. I have used a Dell Venue 8 Pro 64 GB tablet now as my primary Windows
> device for about a year.
> It has the Atom processor they all have, which escapes my memory at the
> moment, but I know it's a z something. They either all have the f or g
> varient of that processor until you get into the laptop price point, where
> you start seeing intel Core brand.
> The thing is the one I've tried is a 2 GB ram variety. I wanted to see what
> a 1 GB was like, but I imagine it makes much more use of the page file and
> therefore suffers a little.
> They all use MMC, which is like an sd card, until you get into big name
> ones
> like the Ms Surface. I can tell you this right now. We do not have any
> games
> that will tax the system. If you want to play Swamp, either get a bluetooth
> mouse or something similar, and you'll be fine.
> I'm about to go into technical stuff. I've finished my basic info packet,
> so
> if you're not interested in product reviews and recommended configurations,
> you can stop here.
> As I said, I used the Dell Venue 8 Pro. I bought it as an early adopter.
> The
> Windows tablet market has exploded at this point manufatcturers popping up
> with new ones fairly frequently. When I bought in, there were just a few:
> the Dell Venue 8 Pro series (one with 32 gb and 1 gig of ram, the other,
> mine, with 64 gb and 2 gigs of ram), the Toshiba Encore 2 (with similar
> specs), the Lenovo Miix2 which was in my oppinion, the worse buy), and the
> TransformerBook by either Asus or Acer (I have a hard time with keeping
> those straight).
> My Dell has served me well. I bought a Fintie Folio case which came with a
> bluetooth 3.0 keyboard. It basically was a laptop when unfolded. I also
> bought a bluetooth mouse. Both are sufficient for gaming, though the
> keyboard is a little bit truncated. If you take gaming very seriously, I
> suggest a workstation setup at home with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard and
> mouse, or a keyboard with trackpad if you prefer.
> Please be aware that any of those early adopters tend to have some slight
> issues. My Dell wireless card occasionally decides to flip out, taking the
> bluetooth with it. A quick restart generally fixes this, but It's something
> to be aware of, especially if you don't take the time to learn how to use
> your touchscreen with a screen reader. Speaking of screen readers, I
> haven't
> used the Jaws For Windows screen reader in several years. NVDA is my
> current
> preference, and it works well enough on my tablet. In fact, I strongly
> suggest the touchscreen add-on, as the tablet's touchscreen can actually be
> quite useful. Aside from this, I have used Microsoft Narrator with great
> success on a keyboard and on the touchscreen. Far gone are the days where
> Narrator is a joke. NVDA is better, but Narrator is far from crap. It's
> probably right around as good as Talkback, if you use Android, though not
> quite so good as Voiceover. It has the advantage of always working in every
> prompt, something which NVDA (and JAWS for Windows, as I understand) don't.
> It is good, in my oppinion, to learn Narrator at least a little. It's on
> every Windows computer, and it's good t

Re: [Audyssey] gaming on windows tablets?

2016-01-15 Thread john
You will not get a large amount of storage with a tablet. If that's a major 
point for you, its laptop or external hdd only.

--
From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_har...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 10:16
To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] gaming on windows tablets?

Hi,

Thanks for this.

Do you know how well window eyes would work on 1 of these tablets? This is
the screen reader that I use.

In addition, have you seen a surface? Are they any good?

I've had laptops over the years and whilst I do like them, the biggest
problem I think for me with laptops is that they are quite heavy and the
battery never seems to last that long.


Having been an iPad user for around 3 years now I've gotten used to the long
battery life an iPad bosts. I do use a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPad.

So yes I'm looking for something that's small ish but not too small as to
not be compatible with things, pretty powerful obviously with plenty of
space on the drive.

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dakotah
Rickard
Sent: 17 December 2015 15:03
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] gaming on windows tablets?

Hi. I have used a Dell Venue 8 Pro 64 GB tablet now as my primary Windows
device for about a year.
It has the Atom processor they all have, which escapes my memory at the
moment, but I know it's a z something. They either all have the f or g
varient of that processor until you get into the laptop price point, where
you start seeing intel Core brand.
The thing is the one I've tried is a 2 GB ram variety. I wanted to see what
a 1 GB was like, but I imagine it makes much more use of the page file and
therefore suffers a little.
They all use MMC, which is like an sd card, until you get into big name ones
like the Ms Surface. I can tell you this right now. We do not have any games
that will tax the system. If you want to play Swamp, either get a bluetooth
mouse or something similar, and you'll be fine.
I'm about to go into technical stuff. I've finished my basic info packet, so
if you're not interested in product reviews and recommended configurations,
you can stop here.
As I said, I used the Dell Venue 8 Pro. I bought it as an early adopter. The
Windows tablet market has exploded at this point manufatcturers popping up
with new ones fairly frequently. When I bought in, there were just a few:
the Dell Venue 8 Pro series (one with 32 gb and 1 gig of ram, the other,
mine, with 64 gb and 2 gigs of ram), the Toshiba Encore 2 (with similar
specs), the Lenovo Miix2 which was in my oppinion, the worse buy), and the
TransformerBook by either Asus or Acer (I have a hard time with keeping
those straight).
My Dell has served me well. I bought a Fintie Folio case which came with a
bluetooth 3.0 keyboard. It basically was a laptop when unfolded. I also
bought a bluetooth mouse. Both are sufficient for gaming, though the
keyboard is a little bit truncated. If you take gaming very seriously, I
suggest a workstation setup at home with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard and
mouse, or a keyboard with trackpad if you prefer.
Please be aware that any of those early adopters tend to have some slight
issues. My Dell wireless card occasionally decides to flip out, taking the
bluetooth with it. A quick restart generally fixes this, but It's something
to be aware of, especially if you don't take the time to learn how to use
your touchscreen with a screen reader. Speaking of screen readers, I haven't
used the Jaws For Windows screen reader in several years. NVDA is my current
preference, and it works well enough on my tablet. In fact, I strongly
suggest the touchscreen add-on, as the tablet's touchscreen can actually be
quite useful. Aside from this, I have used Microsoft Narrator with great
success on a keyboard and on the touchscreen. Far gone are the days where
Narrator is a joke. NVDA is better, but Narrator is far from crap. It's
probably right around as good as Talkback, if you use Android, though not
quite so good as Voiceover. It has the advantage of always working in every
prompt, something which NVDA (and JAWS for Windows, as I understand) don't.
It is good, in my oppinion, to learn Narrator at least a little. It's on
every Windows computer, and it's good to know it in case a better option is
unavailable for whatever reason.
Frankly, I strongly recommend a different tablet. The Nextbook Flexx 10.1
and 11.6 inch are both good. Both come with a keyboard that sticks on with a
latching connection. It includes a trackpad, and the keyboard has two
standard size usb ports, if you want to plug stuff in. Both the 10 and 11
inch varients come with 2 gigs of ram and the same intel Atom processor.
However, generally the reasons for getting a tablet are multiple. Price is
generally a factor, as is portability. I have loved my Dell for that. It's
an 8-inch

Re: [Audyssey] gaming on windows tablets?

2016-01-15 Thread Dakotah Rickard
The plain fact is that the Windows on these is generally 32-bit.
Also, as for "running stuff off an sd card" that's just how these are made now.
As for the surface, as I said you might be better off going with a laptop if 
you're getting into that price point. It's not that the surface is bad. Far 
from it. It's just that the Surface is kind of like the ultrabook of tablets. 
What I mean is that its footprint is good. If you get the Surface or Surface 
Pro 3, you're not looking at dealing with Windows RT, which we can't really 
use. It's just that the surface is generally several hundred dollars. At that 
point, you could just get a laptop with a decent battery and an ssd which might 
suit your needs better.
I have several games, dropbox, and basic productivity stuff on my tablet, and 
that does take me past the 32 gb mark. However, I was floating beneath that for 
a good while. You also must remember that you can install games to sd cards. 
It's not a bad setup, just one you should consider carefully.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2015, at 10:28, john <jpcarnemo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The idea of running an OS off an sd card is rather scary to me. Also, 32 gb 
> is barely enough to run windows itself for any length of time - the only 
> major games I have on this laptop are a couple of GMA titles, mush-z and 
> swamp, and I'm already passed (well past) that point. I'd also note that any 
> modern windows will practically require 4gb of ram - you may be able to get 
> away with 2, but I pitty you if you try to do more than one or two things at 
> a time.
> 
> --
> From: "Dakotah Rickard" <dakotah.rick...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 10:02
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] gaming on windows tablets?
> 
> Hi. I have used a Dell Venue 8 Pro 64 GB tablet now as my primary Windows 
> device for about a year.
> It has the Atom processor they all have, which escapes my memory at the 
> moment, but I know it's a z something. They either all have the f or g 
> varient of that processor until you get into the laptop price point, where 
> you start seeing intel Core brand.
> The thing is the one I've tried is a 2 GB ram variety. I wanted to see what 
> a 1 GB was like, but I imagine it makes much more use of the page file and 
> therefore suffers a little.
> They all use MMC, which is like an sd card, until you get into big name ones 
> like the Ms Surface. I can tell you this right now. We do not have any games 
> that will tax the system. If you want to play Swamp, either get a bluetooth 
> mouse or something similar, and you'll be fine.
> I'm about to go into technical stuff. I've finished my basic info packet, so 
> if you're not interested in product reviews and recommended configurations, 
> you can stop here.
> As I said, I used the Dell Venue 8 Pro. I bought it as an early adopter. The 
> Windows tablet market has exploded at this point manufatcturers popping up 
> with new ones fairly frequently. When I bought in, there were just a few: 
> the Dell Venue 8 Pro series (one with 32 gb and 1 gig of ram, the other, 
> mine, with 64 gb and 2 gigs of ram), the Toshiba Encore 2 (with similar 
> specs), the Lenovo Miix2 which was in my oppinion, the worse buy), and the 
> TransformerBook by either Asus or Acer (I have a hard time with keeping 
> those straight).
> My Dell has served me well. I bought a Fintie Folio case which came with a 
> bluetooth 3.0 keyboard. It basically was a laptop when unfolded. I also 
> bought a bluetooth mouse. Both are sufficient for gaming, though the 
> keyboard is a little bit truncated. If you take gaming very seriously, I 
> suggest a workstation setup at home with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard and 
> mouse, or a keyboard with trackpad if you prefer.
> Please be aware that any of those early adopters tend to have some slight 
> issues. My Dell wireless card occasionally decides to flip out, taking the 
> bluetooth with it. A quick restart generally fixes this, but It's something 
> to be aware of, especially if you don't take the time to learn how to use 
> your touchscreen with a screen reader. Speaking of screen readers, I haven't 
> used the Jaws For Windows screen reader in several years. NVDA is my current 
> preference, and it works well enough on my tablet. In fact, I strongly 
> suggest the touchscreen add-on, as the tablet's touchscreen can actually be 
> quite useful. Aside from this, I have used Microsoft Narrator with great 
> success on a keyboard and on the touchscreen. Far gone are the days where 
> Narrator is a joke. NVDA is better, but Narrator is far from crap. It's 
> probably right around as good as Talkback, if you use Andr

Re: [Audyssey] gaming on windows tablets?

2015-12-17 Thread Dakotah Rickard
Hi. I have used a Dell Venue 8 Pro 64 GB tablet now as my primary Windows 
device for about a year.
It has the Atom processor they all have, which escapes my memory at the moment, 
but I know it's a z something. They either all have the f or g varient of that 
processor until you get into the laptop price point, where you start seeing 
intel Core brand.
The thing is the one I've tried is a 2 GB ram variety. I wanted to see what a 1 
GB was like, but I imagine it makes much more use of the page file and 
therefore suffers a little.
They all use MMC, which is like an sd card, until you get into big name ones 
like the Ms Surface. I can tell you this right now. We do not have any games 
that will tax the system. If you want to play Swamp, either get a bluetooth 
mouse or something similar, and you'll be fine.
I'm about to go into technical stuff. I've finished my basic info packet, so if 
you're not interested in product reviews and recommended configurations, you 
can stop here.
As I said, I used the Dell Venue 8 Pro. I bought it as an early adopter. The 
Windows tablet market has exploded at this point manufatcturers popping up with 
new ones fairly frequently. When I bought in, there were just a few: the Dell 
Venue 8 Pro series (one with 32 gb and 1 gig of ram, the other, mine, with 64 
gb and 2 gigs of ram), the Toshiba Encore 2 (with similar specs), the Lenovo 
Miix2 which was in my oppinion, the worse buy), and the TransformerBook by 
either Asus or Acer (I have a hard time with keeping those straight).
My Dell has served me well. I bought a Fintie Folio case which came with a 
bluetooth 3.0 keyboard. It basically was a laptop when unfolded. I also bought 
a bluetooth mouse. Both are sufficient for gaming, though the keyboard is a 
little bit truncated. If you take gaming very seriously, I suggest a 
workstation setup at home with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, or a 
keyboard with trackpad if you prefer.
Please be aware that any of those early adopters tend to have some slight 
issues. My Dell wireless card occasionally decides to flip out, taking the 
bluetooth with it. A quick restart generally fixes this, but It's something to 
be aware of, especially if you don't take the time to learn how to use your 
touchscreen with a screen reader. Speaking of screen readers, I haven't used 
the Jaws For Windows screen reader in several years. NVDA is my current 
preference, and it works well enough on my tablet. In fact, I strongly suggest 
the touchscreen add-on, as the tablet's touchscreen can actually be quite 
useful. Aside from this, I have used Microsoft Narrator with great success on a 
keyboard and on the touchscreen. Far gone are the days where Narrator is a 
joke. NVDA is better, but Narrator is far from crap. It's probably right around 
as good as Talkback, if you use Android, though not quite so good as Voiceover. 
It has the advantage of always working in every prompt, something which NVDA 
 (and JAWS for Windows, as I understand) don't. It is good, in my oppinion, to 
learn Narrator at least a little. It's on every Windows computer, and it's good 
to know it in case a better option is unavailable for whatever reason.
Frankly, I strongly recommend a different tablet. The Nextbook Flexx 10.1 and 
11.6 inch are both good. Both come with a keyboard that sticks on with a 
latching connection. It includes a trackpad, and the keyboard has two standard 
size usb ports, if you want to plug stuff in. Both the 10 and 11 inch varients 
come with 2 gigs of ram and the same intel Atom processor.
However, generally the reasons for getting a tablet are multiple. Price is 
generally a factor, as is portability. I have loved my Dell for that. It's an 
8-inch tablet, so there've been plenty of times where I could put it in a 
pocket. That's freedom.
The other reason is price. The Intel Atom equipped tablets are generally 
cheaper than laptops all-round.
Let's keep these in mind. If you look into the Nextbooks, there are 7 and 8 
inch varieties. These do have 32 gb of internal storage which is fine, I'll get 
to that in a second, but they both only have a gig of ram. 1 gb of ram is, by 
me at least, untested. As for space, 32 gb can fill up pretty fast, but 
frankly, most of our games deal best with being installed to a non-default 
location, so using sd cards just makes sense. All Windows tablets support up to 
64 gb micro sd cards, and 32 gb cards are particularly cheap right now. Be 
careful and selective, and you'll have plenty of space. I have appreciated my 
64 gb tablet, but having 32 gb of space is not a dealbreaker. Just keep in mind 
the ram.
The other reason I mentioned was price. There's no doubt. If you shop around 
and buy new, tablets are generally cheaper until you get into  Microsoft 
Surface territory and similar. That 11-inch Nextbook two-in-one (tech speak for 
a tabletish laptop or a laptopish tablet) is, right now, a little over $200. It 
gets cheaper. I've seen it down hovering 

Re: [Audyssey] gaming on windows tablets?

2015-12-17 Thread Darren Harris
Hi,

Thanks for this.

Do you know how well window eyes would work on 1 of these tablets? This is
the screen reader that I use.

In addition, have you seen a surface? Are they any good? 

I've had laptops over the years and whilst I do like them, the biggest
problem I think for me with laptops is that they are quite heavy and the
battery never seems to last that long.


Having been an iPad user for around 3 years now I've gotten used to the long
battery life an iPad bosts. I do use a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPad. 

So yes I'm looking for something that's small ish but not too small as to
not be compatible with things, pretty powerful obviously with plenty of
space on the drive. 

-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Dakotah
Rickard
Sent: 17 December 2015 15:03
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] gaming on windows tablets?

Hi. I have used a Dell Venue 8 Pro 64 GB tablet now as my primary Windows
device for about a year.
It has the Atom processor they all have, which escapes my memory at the
moment, but I know it's a z something. They either all have the f or g
varient of that processor until you get into the laptop price point, where
you start seeing intel Core brand.
The thing is the one I've tried is a 2 GB ram variety. I wanted to see what
a 1 GB was like, but I imagine it makes much more use of the page file and
therefore suffers a little.
They all use MMC, which is like an sd card, until you get into big name ones
like the Ms Surface. I can tell you this right now. We do not have any games
that will tax the system. If you want to play Swamp, either get a bluetooth
mouse or something similar, and you'll be fine.
I'm about to go into technical stuff. I've finished my basic info packet, so
if you're not interested in product reviews and recommended configurations,
you can stop here.
As I said, I used the Dell Venue 8 Pro. I bought it as an early adopter. The
Windows tablet market has exploded at this point manufatcturers popping up
with new ones fairly frequently. When I bought in, there were just a few:
the Dell Venue 8 Pro series (one with 32 gb and 1 gig of ram, the other,
mine, with 64 gb and 2 gigs of ram), the Toshiba Encore 2 (with similar
specs), the Lenovo Miix2 which was in my oppinion, the worse buy), and the
TransformerBook by either Asus or Acer (I have a hard time with keeping
those straight).
My Dell has served me well. I bought a Fintie Folio case which came with a
bluetooth 3.0 keyboard. It basically was a laptop when unfolded. I also
bought a bluetooth mouse. Both are sufficient for gaming, though the
keyboard is a little bit truncated. If you take gaming very seriously, I
suggest a workstation setup at home with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard and
mouse, or a keyboard with trackpad if you prefer.
Please be aware that any of those early adopters tend to have some slight
issues. My Dell wireless card occasionally decides to flip out, taking the
bluetooth with it. A quick restart generally fixes this, but It's something
to be aware of, especially if you don't take the time to learn how to use
your touchscreen with a screen reader. Speaking of screen readers, I haven't
used the Jaws For Windows screen reader in several years. NVDA is my current
preference, and it works well enough on my tablet. In fact, I strongly
suggest the touchscreen add-on, as the tablet's touchscreen can actually be
quite useful. Aside from this, I have used Microsoft Narrator with great
success on a keyboard and on the touchscreen. Far gone are the days where
Narrator is a joke. NVDA is better, but Narrator is far from crap. It's
probably right around as good as Talkback, if you use Android, though not
quite so good as Voiceover. It has the advantage of always working in every
prompt, something which NVDA (and JAWS for Windows, as I understand) don't.
It is good, in my oppinion, to learn Narrator at least a little. It's on
every Windows computer, and it's good to know it in case a better option is
unavailable for whatever reason.
Frankly, I strongly recommend a different tablet. The Nextbook Flexx 10.1
and 11.6 inch are both good. Both come with a keyboard that sticks on with a
latching connection. It includes a trackpad, and the keyboard has two
standard size usb ports, if you want to plug stuff in. Both the 10 and 11
inch varients come with 2 gigs of ram and the same intel Atom processor.
However, generally the reasons for getting a tablet are multiple. Price is
generally a factor, as is portability. I have loved my Dell for that. It's
an 8-inch tablet, so there've been plenty of times where I could put it in a
pocket. That's freedom.
The other reason is price. The Intel Atom equipped tablets are generally
cheaper than laptops all-round.
Let's keep these in mind. If you look into the Nextbooks, there are 7 and 8
inch varieties. These do have 32 gb of internal storage which is fine, I'll
get to that in a second, but they both only have a gig

Re: [Audyssey] gaming on windows tablets?

2015-12-17 Thread john
The idea of running an OS off an sd card is rather scary to me. Also, 32 gb 
is barely enough to run windows itself for any length of time - the only 
major games I have on this laptop are a couple of GMA titles, mush-z and 
swamp, and I'm already passed (well past) that point. I'd also note that any 
modern windows will practically require 4gb of ram - you may be able to get 
away with 2, but I pitty you if you try to do more than one or two things at 
a time.

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] gaming on windows tablets?

Hi. I have used a Dell Venue 8 Pro 64 GB tablet now as my primary Windows 
device for about a year.
It has the Atom processor they all have, which escapes my memory at the 
moment, but I know it's a z something. They either all have the f or g 
varient of that processor until you get into the laptop price point, where 
you start seeing intel Core brand.
The thing is the one I've tried is a 2 GB ram variety. I wanted to see what 
a 1 GB was like, but I imagine it makes much more use of the page file and 
therefore suffers a little.
They all use MMC, which is like an sd card, until you get into big name ones 
like the Ms Surface. I can tell you this right now. We do not have any games 
that will tax the system. If you want to play Swamp, either get a bluetooth 
mouse or something similar, and you'll be fine.
I'm about to go into technical stuff. I've finished my basic info packet, so 
if you're not interested in product reviews and recommended configurations, 
you can stop here.
As I said, I used the Dell Venue 8 Pro. I bought it as an early adopter. The 
Windows tablet market has exploded at this point manufatcturers popping up 
with new ones fairly frequently. When I bought in, there were just a few: 
the Dell Venue 8 Pro series (one with 32 gb and 1 gig of ram, the other, 
mine, with 64 gb and 2 gigs of ram), the Toshiba Encore 2 (with similar 
specs), the Lenovo Miix2 which was in my oppinion, the worse buy), and the 
TransformerBook by either Asus or Acer (I have a hard time with keeping 
those straight).
My Dell has served me well. I bought a Fintie Folio case which came with a 
bluetooth 3.0 keyboard. It basically was a laptop when unfolded. I also 
bought a bluetooth mouse. Both are sufficient for gaming, though the 
keyboard is a little bit truncated. If you take gaming very seriously, I 
suggest a workstation setup at home with a dedicated Bluetooth keyboard and 
mouse, or a keyboard with trackpad if you prefer.
Please be aware that any of those early adopters tend to have some slight 
issues. My Dell wireless card occasionally decides to flip out, taking the 
bluetooth with it. A quick restart generally fixes this, but It's something 
to be aware of, especially if you don't take the time to learn how to use 
your touchscreen with a screen reader. Speaking of screen readers, I haven't 
used the Jaws For Windows screen reader in several years. NVDA is my current 
preference, and it works well enough on my tablet. In fact, I strongly 
suggest the touchscreen add-on, as the tablet's touchscreen can actually be 
quite useful. Aside from this, I have used Microsoft Narrator with great 
success on a keyboard and on the touchscreen. Far gone are the days where 
Narrator is a joke. NVDA is better, but Narrator is far from crap. It's 
probably right around as good as Talkback, if you use Android, though not 
quite so good as Voiceover. It has the advantage of always working in every 
prompt, something which NVDA (and JAWS for Windows, as I understand) don't. 
It is good, in my oppinion, to learn Narrator at least a little. It's on 
every Windows computer, and it's good to know it in case a better option is 
unavailable for whatever reason.
Frankly, I strongly recommend a different tablet. The Nextbook Flexx 10.1 
and 11.6 inch are both good. Both come with a keyboard that sticks on with a 
latching connection. It includes a trackpad, and the keyboard has two 
standard size usb ports, if you want to plug stuff in. Both the 10 and 11 
inch varients come with 2 gigs of ram and the same intel Atom processor.
However, generally the reasons for getting a tablet are multiple. Price is 
generally a factor, as is portability. I have loved my Dell for that. It's 
an 8-inch tablet, so there've been plenty of times where I could put it in a 
pocket. That's freedom.
The other reason is price. The Intel Atom equipped tablets are generally 
cheaper than laptops all-round.
Let's keep these in mind. If you look into the Nextbooks, there are 7 and 8 
inch varieties. These do have 32 gb of internal storage which is fine, I'll 
get to that in a second, but they both only have a gig of ram. 1 gb of ram 
is, by me at least, untested. As for space, 32 gb can fill up pretty fast, 
but fran