Re: OpenJDK Governing Board CFV: Delay the 2020 Governing Board election by one week?

2020-03-07 Thread Andrew Haley
On 3/6/20 10:22 PM, mark.reinh...@oracle.com wrote:
> MOTION: Delay this year’s voting period for At-Large Members of the
> Governing Board by one week, to start on Tuesday, 24 March.

Vote: yes

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OpenJDK Governing Board CFV: New Serviceability Group Lead: Serguei Spitsyn

2019-03-20 Thread Andrew Haley
Vote: yes


> On Mar 12, 2019, at 11:00 PM, Iris Clark  wrote:
> 
> Serguei Spitsyn was voted in as the new Lead of the Serviceability
> Group [1].
> 
> Governing Board members: Please vote on whether to ratify this change,
> as required by the Bylaws [2].  Votes are due in two weeks, by 23:00
> UTC on Wednesday, 27 March 2019.  Votes must be cast in the open by
> replying to this message.
> 
> For Simple Majority voting instructions, see [3].
> 
> Iris
> 
> 
> [1] 
> https://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/serviceability-dev/2017-April/021205.html
> [2] https://openjdk.java.net/bylaws#group-lead
> [3] https://openjdk.java.net/groups/#lead-vote



Re: CFV: New Group: Compatibility & Specification Review

2017-02-04 Thread Andrew Haley
Vote: yes


Re: OpenJDK Governing Board CFV: New Swing Group Lead: Alexander Scherbatiy

2016-06-22 Thread Andrew Haley

Vote: yes


Re: Bylaw: OpenJDK Members

2015-02-17 Thread Andrew Haley
On 02/17/2015 03:56 PM, dalibor topic wrote:
 This was indeed discussed before: 
 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openjdk.general/3218

Mmm, but with no satisfactory outcome.

Time to nuke the rule, methinks.  There seems to be no enthusiasm to
implement it.

Andrew.



Re: Minutes

2014-02-03 Thread Andrew Haley
On 02/03/2014 10:13 AM, mark.reinh...@oracle.com wrote:
 2014/2/3 11:30 +0100, a...@redhat.com:
 The GB minutes don't seem to be online.

 I presume they must have been taken; is this an oversight?
 
 Minutes for the past year's worth of GB meetings were taken but have
 not yet been formatted and sent to the Board for review and approval.
 We hope to get that done soon.

Thanks.  I think this delay is a significant problem.  We really
should get used to the idea of signing off the last meeting's minutes
at the start of every meeting.

Andrew.




Re: CFV: Group Proposal: Adoption

2013-12-19 Thread Andrew Haley
Vote: yes


Re: CFV: Group Proposal: Adoption

2013-12-17 Thread Andrew Haley
On 12/17/2013 12:20 PM, Dalibor Topic wrote:
 On 12/12/13 7:49 PM, Andrew Haley wrote:
 I think this is a reasonable idea, but there are a few questions this
 raises.
 
 Given its agenda, I'd expect the Group to be focused on concrete
 things, whether that's making it easier for new Participants to find
 their ways around the OpenJDK community, contribute or provide
 feedback to OpenJDK Projects, etc. rather then on talk about kicking
 doors. ;)

OK, that makes sense, but it's a fairly limited ambition when compared
with the scale of the problem.  If the OpenJDK project is open and
inviting, then people will surely participate.  Java is important, and
IME many people like to work on important projects.  If they're not
participating as much as we'd like, then the lack of a group to show
people around is not, IMVHO, the most important reason.

Having said that, onboarding has been a problem ever since Java was
first freed, and anything to help with that is a good thing.

Andrew.


Re: OpenJDK Governing Board CFV: New Swing Group Lead: Pavel Porvatov

2012-06-22 Thread Andrew Haley
On 06/22/2012 07:04 PM, mark.reinh...@oracle.com wrote:
 The members of the Swing Group have approved Pavel Porvatov as their new
 Group Lead [1].
 
 Governing Board members: Please vote on whether to ratify this change, as
 required by the Bylaws [2].  Votes are due in one week, by 19:00 UTC next
 Friday, 29 June 2012.  Votes must be cast in the open by replying to this
 message.

Vote: yes



Re: OpenJDK Governing Board CFV: New Hotspot Group Lead: John Coomes

2012-04-10 Thread Andrew Haley
On 04/10/2012 05:11 PM, mark.reinh...@oracle.com wrote:
 The members of the HotSpot Group have approved John Coomes as their new
 Group Lead [1].

Vote: yes



Re: OpenJDK Governing Board Minutes: 20011/4/21

2011-04-28 Thread Andrew Haley
On 28/04/11 11:15, Dr Andrew John Hughes wrote:
 On 28 April 2011 10:56, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 So, it takes two for tango, and sadly -as a former FSF contributor-,
 I can´t say I know what the FSF´s true intentions are anymore, and
 that rants like Andrew´s which start by attacking the governing board
 contribute very little to a climate of collaboration or moving things
 forward, unless of course the aim is to create the self-fulfilling
 prophecy, that is in this case, a fork.
 
 I don't see what the FSF has to do with this.

I think Fernando is confused by your email address.

Andrew.


Re: OpenJDK governing board, constitution

2009-01-16 Thread Andrew Haley
Neal Gafter wrote:

 On Wed, 2009-01-07 at 19:15 -0800, Neal Gafter wrote:

 The OpenJDK governing board, having had its life extended by a
 year, is now scheduled to dissolve in four months, with two of its
 non-Sun positions remaining unfilled.  The last published meeting
 minutes were from April 2008, at which it was agreed that the GB
 would strive for a draft Constitution by the end of 2008.

 Who are the seven members of the governing board?  Can we please
 see the minutes of meetings after April, and get a status report
 on the Constitution?

 The reason I ask is that I'm worried that openJDK may turn into the
 defacto mechanism for features getting into the platform.  The JCP
 used to play that role, but there has been little activity in
 forming a JSR for Java SE 7 in the past few years.  I've noticed
 that openjdk7 is more and more being called Java 7, JDK7, etc, even
 though it doesn't implement a platform specification approved by the
 JCP.  If openjdk is to become the mechanism by which features are
 added to the platform,

I don't see how that can happen.  For Java SE 7 to be released there
must be a platform specification, and there must be a TCK.  openjdk7
is a bunch of packages slated for Java SE 7 that may or may not get to
be in the platform.

 it would be better for the governance model to acknowledge and support that.

It would, yes, but it would be a huge change.

In the past there have undoubtedly been developments very much like
the openjdk7 tree, where platform integration has proceeded prior to
the formal platform specification.  This is essential: you need to
make sure that a design works in a reasonable way before its
specification is finalized.  The only difference now is that the
openjdk7 tree is open.

Andrew.