Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-11

OSPF WG, WG consensus seems to be graceful-link-shutdown. I’ll update the draft with graceful-link-shutdown and also add some text Describing this mechanism can also be used when the real intent is not to shutdown the link. Let me know if there are any objections. Rgds Shraddha From: Les

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-11

Hi Acee, LOL.. Might as well be 'link-on-break'.. :) Anyways graceful-link-shutdown seems to be the most agreed upon. Thanks and regards, -Pushpasis On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:29 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Pushpasis, Shraddha, et al, > > From: Pushpasis Sarkar

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-11

Hi Pushpasis, Shraddha, et al, From: Pushpasis Sarkar > Date: Monday, January 8, 2018 at 12:22 PM To: Bruno Decraene > Cc: Shraddha Hegde

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-11

If the WG consensus is for “GLS” so be it…but I would like to reemphasize two things: 1)There are use cases where the intent is NOT to shutdown the link 2)Once the link is shutdown the extension is no longer used since there is no longer an adjacency – so to me it makes a lot more sense to

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Hi Joel et al, +1 for 'graceful-link-shutdown'. Another possibility may be 'link-decommission'.. Thanks and regards -Pushpasis On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 7:09 PM, wrote: > > > > > *From:* Shraddha Hegde > > How about “graceful-link-shutdown” ? > > > > Looks good to me.

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-11

From: Shraddha Hegde How about “graceful-link-shutdown” ? Looks good to me. Also, FYI, for BGP sessions, in the GROW WG we used the term “Graceful BGP session shutdown” and named the BGP community “GRACEFUL_SHUTDOWN” so this would align on the terminology.

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-11

I think the point here is that the link is not necessarily going to be shutdown in all cases. For example, the operator needs to do some testing of the link. They set max-metric to divert traffic, then keep the link up so they can send OAM traffic over the link and try to determine what

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-11

Works for me. Acee From: Shraddha Hegde > Date: Friday, January 5, 2018 at 11:15 AM To: Acee Lindem >, "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" >, "Ketan Talaulikar (ketant)"

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-11

How about “graceful-link-shutdown” ? Rgds Shraddha From: Acee Lindem (acee) [mailto:a...@cisco.com] Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 6:50 PM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) ; Joel Halpern ; gen-art@ietf.org Cc:

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-11

It is not in “maintenance" mode yet as it is still being used. However, it is better than “overload”. “pending-maintenance” is a bit long which is why I suggested “pending-shutdown” since “shutdown” is term that vendors have used for eons to described an interface that is not in service.

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Ketan – “maintenance” I could live with. “GIR” seems to not be generic enough. Les From: Ketan Talaulikar (ketant) Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 8:09 PM To: Acee Lindem (acee) ; Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; Joel Halpern ;

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Acee - From: Acee Lindem (acee) Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 6:44 PM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; Joel Halpern ; gen-art@ietf.org Cc: o...@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload@ietf.org Subject: Re: Genart last call review of

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-11

Hello, May I suggest something more generic like “Maintenance Mode” or “Graceful Insertion/Removal (GIR) Mode” which could be defined so as to cover the multiple scenarios in question (e.g. pending shutdown, down for repairs, last resort due to poor link quality, etc.). Thanks, Ketan From:

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Hi Les, From: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" > Date: Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 9:26 PM To: Acee Lindem >, "Joel M. Halpern" >,

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> >Minor issues: > >I understand the WG likes using the term "overload" for a link > >being taken > >out of service. I think people will learn what we mean. I do wish > >we had > >not chosen to misuse the words in this fashion. This is much more a > >graceful-link-close

Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-11

Hi Joel, On 1/4/18, 6:32 PM, "Joel Halpern" wrote: >Reviewer: Joel Halpern >Review result: Ready > >I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area >Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed >by the IESG for the IETF Chair.

[Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-link-overload-11

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