Re: [Gen-art] [Sidrops] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-sidrops-ov-egress-01

2020-03-20 Thread Randy Bush
>As the origin AS of a BGP UPDATE is decided by configuration and >outbound policy of the BGP speaker, a validating BGP speaker MUST >apply Route Origin Validation policy semantics (see [RFC6811] Sec 2) >against the origin Autonomous System number which will actually be >put in

Re: [Gen-art] [Sidrops] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-sidrops-ov-egress-01

2020-03-20 Thread Randy Bush
> Having spend the better part of last week stepping a vendor through > exactly these semantics while there is no proof of termination of clue insertion, that a BGP/ROV *implementor* did not get it, justifies the hack. As the origin AS of a BGP UPDATE is decided by configuration and

Re: [Gen-art] [Sidrops] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-sidrops-ov-egress-01

2020-03-20 Thread Ben Maddison
It doesn't clarify anything for me, but then I happen to know where that algorithm is defined. Having spend the better part of last week stepping a vendor through exactly these semantics, my current mood is that explicit and specific is better. The intent in having the ref where it is, is to

Re: [Gen-art] [Sidrops] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-sidrops-ov-egress-01

2020-03-20 Thread Randy Bush
> Although a little more verbose, perhaps the following is more explicit? > > As the origin AS of a BGP UPDATE is decided by configuration and > outbound policy of the BGP speaker, a validating BGP speaker MUST > apply Route Origin Validation policy semantics Against the Route >

Re: [Gen-art] [Sidrops] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-sidrops-ov-egress-01

2020-03-20 Thread Ben Maddison
On Wed, 2020-03-18 at 12:56 -0700, Randy Bush wrote: > ( warning: quote depth errors and top posting. keyur's mta, well > let's > not get into that :) > > > Speaking as a wg member. > > and one of the first ROV implementors, tyvm. > > > Shouldn’t you be checking the "my autonomous system