Re: [Gen-art] Fwd: Re: Gen-art LC Review of? draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-13

[Toerless Eckert]

Sorry, trying to get through backlog. Took longer than expected...

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 01:04:53AM +0100, Elwyn Davies wrote:
> Hi.
> It has been about 6 weeks since responses to the review were postponed till 
> after IETF 101 any thoughts yet?
> Regards,Elwyn
> 
> 
> Sent from Samsung tablet.
>  Original message From: Elwyn Davies  
> Date: 02/03/2018  12:04  (GMT+00:00) To: Brian E Carpenter 
> , gen-art@ietf.org Cc: 
> draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Gen-art] 
> Gen-art LC Review of
>   draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-13 
> Just taking up one point for the time being  
> Even if the reference model is informational, I was relying on RFC 8067, s1, 
> para 3:
>    Section 2 of [RFC3967] lists some conditions under which downrefs may
>    make sense.  In addition to those, it has become common for working
>    groups to produce foundational documents (which contain important
>    information such as terminology definitions and architectural design
>    and considerations) at Informational status, and those documents are
>    often needed as normative references in the Standards Track protocol
>    documents that follow. 
> I would say that sombody implementing ACP really needs to have read and 
> understood the reference model and so I would argue:1. That it needs to be 
> normative,and2. The downref is sanctioned by the language in RFC 8067. 
> I am on holiday for a week and others are fighting the draft deadline so 
> perhaps we can postpone discussion of the other points until the draft panic 
> has subsided.
> Cheers,Elwyn
> Sent from Samsung tablet.

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[Gen-art] Fwd: Re: Gen-art LC Review of draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-13

[Elwyn Davies]

Hi.
It has been about 6 weeks since responses to the review were postponed till 
after IETF 101 any thoughts yet?
Regards,Elwyn


Sent from Samsung tablet.
 Original message From: Elwyn Davies  
Date: 02/03/2018  12:04  (GMT+00:00) To: Brian E Carpenter 
, gen-art@ietf.org Cc: 
draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Gen-art] 
Gen-art LC Review of
  draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-13 
Just taking up one point for the time being  
Even if the reference model is informational, I was relying on RFC 8067, s1, 
para 3:
   Section 2 of [RFC3967] lists some conditions under which downrefs may
   make sense.  In addition to those, it has become common for working
   groups to produce foundational documents (which contain important
   information such as terminology definitions and architectural design
   and considerations) at Informational status, and those documents are
   often needed as normative references in the Standards Track protocol
   documents that follow. 
I would say that sombody implementing ACP really needs to have read and 
understood the reference model and so I would argue:1. That it needs to be 
normative,and2. The downref is sanctioned by the language in RFC 8067. 
I am on holiday for a week and others are fighting the draft deadline so 
perhaps we can postpone discussion of the other points until the draft panic 
has subsided.
Cheers,Elwyn
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