Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature

2015-01-01 Thread Keilana
Dear Lennart, This is fantastic! I think it does a lot to prove just how useful a small, regular, focused workshop model is. I'm very impressed by the amazing things that you've accomplished this year! Congratulations! -Emily On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote: > Thanks Lennar

[Gendergap] article: Women in 2014, including online

2015-01-01 Thread Carol Moore dc
http://www.theguardian.com/news/2014/dec/30/-sp-rebecca-solnit-listen-up-women-are-telling-their-story-now "Despite the ongoing pandemic of violence against women, the threats online and the harassment on the streets, women’s voices assumed an unprecedented power in 2014, writes Rebecca Solnit."

Re: [Gendergap] WikiProject Women

2015-01-01 Thread LB
I hear you. But I think there are women who would be interested in a women-only space. There are plenty of places on-wiki to talk with men only, or women and men, but no place to talk with women only. For some women, especially women who have been abused or harassed, a women-only space feels safer,

Re: [Gendergap] WikiProject Women

2015-01-01 Thread LB
My question was about having an on-wiki, women-only project. Just discussing if/how it could be done. On Jan 1, 2015 6:16 PM, "Risker" wrote: > So perhaps the question is how many women would be interested in > participating in off-wiki...I'm not really sure entirely what exactly it > is, althoug

Re: [Gendergap] WikiProject Women

2015-01-01 Thread Marie Earley
Okay, deep breath. I have to say this... I am not a fan of women only groups and I probably wouldn't join. I don't live in a women only world and I wouldn't want to. Yes we do get some men on GGTF and elsewhere who are either MRA and would rather see us all rot, or they fall into the category

Re: [Gendergap] Women only space vs. safe space

2015-01-01 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
Thank you Fæ for your experiences (especially the cautionary tale told by the first one). I would like to also offer a more theoretical caveat, to wit that any sort of "women-only" space within the Wikimedia framework may with even the best of intentions backfire, or at least fail to meet its go

Re: [Gendergap] WikiProject Women

2015-01-01 Thread Risker
So perhaps the question is how many women would be interested in participating in off-wiki...I'm not really sure entirely what exactly it is, although hypothetically it's mentoring and... well, I keep coming back to I'm not sure what it is. I have a hard enough time keeping up with my current load

Re: [Gendergap] WikiProject Women

2015-01-01 Thread LB
Thank you, Heather! This is what we run into on the WP GGTF every time we open something up for discussion. All I wanted to discuss the possibility of such a group. Are there any policies that would make it impossible? How would we determine who is a woman? Could inclusion/exclusion be automated?

Re: [Gendergap] (no subject)

2015-01-01 Thread disgruntled grognard
ideology of privilege: "10. fear of open conflict" http://books.google.com/books?id=C1zcxPwyGbkC&lpg=PR5&pg=PA4#v=onepage&q&f=false beware of driving dissent off wiki it can come back 300 votes strong and blithe assertions of MfD would be taken as incivility then. i think we should not be engagin

Re: [Gendergap] (no subject)

2015-01-01 Thread Heather Walls
On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Tim Davenport wrote: > I for one would immediately be running the project through the Miscellany > for Deletion process. > > You don't see anything slightly wrong with this idea? Really?!? > > This is 100% unadulterated identity politics. > You say that as if iden

Re: [Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature

2015-01-01 Thread Sarah Stierch
Thanks Lennart! A blog post would be awesome about this -I'm sure the program evaluation folks at WMF would love to see it on the Wikimedia blog. Having it as a blog would make it easier to share with a wider audience off this list. Great work that continues to be done in Sweden!! :) On Thu, Jan

[Gendergap] Regular editathons in Sweden about women and literature

2015-01-01 Thread Lennart Guldbrandsson
Hello, Since this is the start of the new year, let me just shortly let you know (or remind you) about what one thing we've done in Sweden last year and a little about what we've learned. We started in March in Gothenburg, the second largest city of Sweden, to hold weekly editathons. The topic

[Gendergap] Women only space vs. safe space

2015-01-01 Thread
The problem of how to create a truly safe space is a tricky one. I would like to relate two difference experiences, both more than 20 years ago but still cause me to reflect on how best to achieve it: When I was an undergraduate fresher in a well known London college, I was puzzled by the lack of

Re: [Gendergap] Women's wikipedia...was... Co-Op

2015-01-01 Thread Carol Moore dc
Re: my idea for "practice" women's wikipeida, it's only good if someone does it and it succeeds. At least Tim and friends can’t “Misc. For Delete it! Just brain storming... Also, keeping track of all good ideas like those from Kerry... Not sure what the difference between Sarah's idea below an

[Gendergap] (no subject)

2015-01-01 Thread Tim Davenport
I for one would immediately be running the project through the Miscellany for Deletion process. You don't see anything slightly wrong with this idea? Really?!? This is 100% unadulterated identity politics. Tim Davenport Carrite on WP /// Randy from Boise on WPO Corvallis, OR >>Is it simply im