Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-15 Thread Elaine Mao
Dell posted an apology on their Google+ page yesterday: https://plus.google.com/117161668189080869053/posts/5Zg5FdFEydi During a Dell-hosted customer and partner summit in Copenhagen in April, well-known public speaker and moderator, Mads Christensen, made a number of inappropriate and

Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-15 Thread Sarah Stierch
Hi Elaine! Thanks for posting those updates. yeah, Google+ strange that they didn't post something on their website or release a statement in a more broader known format. Glad to see you out of your lurking! -Sarah On 5/15/12 6:50 PM, Elaine Mao wrote: Dell posted an apology on their

Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-15 Thread John Vandenberg
Welcome Elaine, and thanks for keeping this moving! The comments on that G+ are very informative. I'd love to see some reliable sources to back up that a) it was an attempt at humour

Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-13 Thread Tom Morris
On Sunday, 13 May 2012 at 03:20, Sarah Stierch wrote: Dell held their annual summit this week in Europe. They hired a moderator for the opening day named Mads Christensen who is a media personality that is described as very conservative and this also is regarding his views towards women.

Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-13 Thread Sydney Poore
I think it is relevant to our understanding of how the gender gap developed on WMF wikis. While I don't believe most early WMF users were misogynists, I think a significant portion of them came from work environments where lack of women was accepted as normal. So, noticing and addressing the

Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-13 Thread Laura Hale
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Sydney Poore sydney.po...@gmail.comwrote: I think it is relevant to our understanding of how the gender gap developed on WMF wikis. That was hard to pick up from the e-mail. :( I too was baffled as to how this connected. I still don't see how this connects

Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-13 Thread Sarah Stierch
On 5/13/12 4:40 AM, Laura Hale wrote: On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Sydney Poore sydney.po...@gmail.com mailto:sydney.po...@gmail.com wrote: I think it is relevant to our understanding of how the gender gap developed on WMF wikis. That was hard to pick up from the e-mail. :( I

Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-13 Thread Nathan
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:40 AM, Laura Hale la...@fanhistory.com wrote: On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Sydney Poore sydney.po...@gmail.comwrote: I think it is relevant to our understanding of how the gender gap developed on WMF wikis. That was hard to pick up from the e-mail. :( I too

Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-13 Thread Ole Palnatoke Andersen
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:20 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: Dell held their annual summit this week in Europe. They hired a moderator for the opening day named Mads Christensen who is a media personality that is described as very conservative and this also is regarding his

Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-13 Thread Cynthia Ashley-Nelson
I would think it could certainly be added to the Mads Christensen article on Wikipedia, found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mads_Barner-Christensen. Cindy On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 3:23 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Sarah Stierch

Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-13 Thread Tom Morris
On 13 May 2012 23:36, Cynthia Ashley-Nelson cindam...@gmail.com wrote: I would think it could certainly be added to the Mads Christensen article on Wikipedia, found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mads_Barner-Christensen. Have we any sources other than the blog post? -- Tom Morris

Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-13 Thread Sarah Stierch
On 5/13/12 6:39 PM, Tom Morris wrote: On 13 May 2012 23:36, Cynthia Ashley-Nelsoncindam...@gmail.com wrote: I would think it could certainly be added to the Mads Christensen article on Wikipedia, found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mads_Barner-Christensen. Have we any sources other than

Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-13 Thread Pete Forsyth
On May 13, 2012 5:40 PM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: Have we any sources other than the blog post? Yes -- the cnet column, among others. But isn't this the sort of discussion that belongs on article talk pages, and maybe a wikiproject talk page? Don't get me wrong -- I'm glad this was

Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-13 Thread John Vandenberg
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Cynthia Ashley-Nelson cindam...@gmail.com wrote: I would think it could certainly be added to the Mads Christensen article on Wikipedia, found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mads_Barner-Christensen. Dell regional manager apologised, and said it was intended to

Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-13 Thread John Vandenberg
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: On May 13, 2012 5:40 PM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: Have we any sources other than the blog post? Yes -- the cnet column, among others. But isn't this the sort of discussion that belongs on article talk

Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-13 Thread Sarah Stierch
On 5/13/12 8:33 PM, John Vandenberg wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Pete Forsythpetefors...@gmail.com wrote: On May 13, 2012 5:40 PM, Tom Morrist...@tommorris.org wrote: Have we any sources other than the blog post? Yes -- the cnet column, among others. But isn't this the sort of

Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-12 Thread John Vandenberg
Not sure what this has to do with Wikis, but its pretty sad all the same. It was a month ago, and not nearly enough has been made about it. http://news.cnet.com/8301-31322_3-57431869-256/why-we-need-to-keep-talking-about-women-in-tech/ it is getting fresh coverage on reddit too. Not sure why

Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-12 Thread John Vandenberg
Maybe we can boycott Dell until they issue an apology, if they havent already. On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 1:01 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure what this has to do with Wikis, but its pretty sad all the same.  It was a month ago, and not nearly enough has been made about it.

Re: [Gendergap] The Dell Summit

2012-05-12 Thread Laura Hale
Maybe some one can write a Wikinews story about it... On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 1:01 PM, John Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure what this has to do with Wikis, but its pretty sad all the same. It was a month ago, and not nearly enough has been made about it.