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Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Well done, feminism. Now men are afraid to help women
at work
Okay, so the main problem is double-standard in which women speaking up against
perceived harassment is considered incivil. I'd just like to say that
Okay, so the main problem is double-standard in which women speaking up against
perceived harassment is considered incivil. I'd just like to say that there is
a difference between a legitimate whistle blower and a whiny little
mushroom.--Eat me, I'm an azuki
At 2015-10-06 02:42:56, "Carol Moore
I didn't respond because responding to misogyny like "Well done, feminism.
Now men are afraid to help women at work" is pointless. Don't wrestle the
pig, you just get muddy and the pig likes it.
Ogress
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Carol Moore dc
wrote:
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> On 10/5/2015 11:56 PM, Risker wro
On 10/5/2015 11:56 PM, Risker wrote:
On 5 October 2015 at 23:30, Carol Moore dc mailto:carolmoor...@verizon.net>> wrote:
On 10/5/2015 10:11 PM, rupert THURNER wrote:
what do you
think about anger management in this context, what i suggested here:
https://lists.wikim
On 5 October 2015 at 23:30, Carol Moore dc wrote:
> On 10/5/2015 10:11 PM, rupert THURNER wrote:
> what do you
>
>> think about anger management in this context, what i suggested here:
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2015-September/005946.html
>> ? or you think this is complete
On 10/5/2015 10:11 PM, rupert THURNER wrote:
what do you
think about anger management in this context, what i suggested here:
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2015-September/005946.html
? or you think this is completely off ?
rupert
Anger management is always a good idea. As lon
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 8:42 PM, Carol Moore dc wrote:
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> On 10/4/2015 5:59 AM, Robert Williams wrote:
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>> Well, what I'd like to say is that some of these arguments do make
>> sense. While men shouldn't get over-sensitive over perceived
>> "harassment" of them, neither should women just whine
On 10/4/2015 5:59 AM, Robert Williams wrote:
Well, what I'd like to say is that some of these arguments do make
sense. While men shouldn't get over-sensitive over perceived
"harassment" of them, neither should women just whine about
harassment.--Eat me, I'm an azuki
The problem is is the doub
Well, I'd personally expect assault and persistent stalking/harassment to be
made crimes. But being obnoxious isn't being harassing. If that were the truth,
then I'd be in prison for "harassing" a girl in class that I liked in school.
We shouldn't let the nanny state speak up for every "discrimi
Well, what I'd like to say is that some of these arguments do make sense. While
men shouldn't get over-sensitive over perceived "harassment" of them, neither
should women just whine about harassment.--Eat me, I'm an azuki
At 2015-10-04 01:29:33, "Carol Moore dc" wrote:
>The relevance is that som
The relevance is that some wikipedia editors would like to shut us all
up about harassment and civility and have made or will increase making
these kinds of arguments...
Already made:
"I'm a serious contributor with 100 contributions a day and I shouldn't
have to put up with petty nonsense abo
From having looked only at the headlines:
1) I really don't see the direct relevance of these to this list.
2) Consider the sources: a British newspaper so notorious for its sympathies
to the Conservative Party and its associated politics that it's known
informally as the Torygraph, and an Ame
These articles do look highly exaggerated. And, of course, for some
guys saying they are afraid of being accused of harassment is just a new
excuse for cutting women out of the loop.
However, there is a real problem of people being overly sensitized to
the issue due to over-regulation. This i
the daily telegraph published an article with title "Well done,
feminism. Now men are afraid to help women at work":
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/relationships/11904203/Well-done-feminism.-Now-man-are-afraid-to-help-women-at-work.html
and linked to one with title "why powerful men now hide behin
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