Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-10 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi Ellie all, Maybe my previous mail was to generalising, what I tried to say is that a lot of people feel it the way I described, but certainly not everyone. So, it is perfectly fine if you do not need it, but at the same time this prevents most contributors learning to edit Wikipedia to stay

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-08 Thread Ellie K
Romaine Wiki says about women, participating as editors on Wikipedia: They expect a social environment, with easy interaction, where they are stimulated and can form groups to be able not to feel alone on the wiki and to work together, where they can get constructive feedback, where they can

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-04 Thread Romaine Wiki
What it would take to close the gender gap? That WMF would realize itself that Wikipedia misses social software to give female contributors a comfortable feeling because of the social environment. Giving many workshops for new female contributors, we notice that they experience Wikipedia as a

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-04 Thread Jason Radford
Hi, Thank you all for your feedback. I've incorporated a number of them and updated the report. It's now publicly available to share with folks who are interested. @Ellie, yes, the 75% retirement part was a typo on my part. Thanks for pointing it out! @Samuel and the group of people talking

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-01 Thread Samuel Klein
Thanks Jason. I enjoyed reading this, though the conclusions remind me of _Seeing Like a State_. Not all edits, editors, and subcommunities are equal. Trying to shift about contributors en masse in a way that is convenient for large organizations (or for those of us who like crunching large

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-01 Thread Siko Bouterse
Super interesting, thanks for sharing Jason. Can Wikipedia increase the number of new female editors four-fold and increase new editor retention four-fold every month for three years? On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Joseph Reagle joseph.2...@reagle.org wrote: Interesting!

[Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-01 Thread Jason Radford
Hi, Since participating in the Inspire campaign, I got interested in the question of exactly how many women would be needed on Wikipedia to close the gender gap. I ran some simulations and came up with some fairly radical numbers. For example, according to my calculations, there are so few

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-01 Thread Joseph Reagle
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Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-01 Thread Sarah (SV)
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Jason. I enjoyed reading this, though the conclusions remind me of _Seeing Like a State_. Not all edits, editors, and subcommunities are equal. Trying to shift about contributors en masse in a way that is

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-01 Thread Pharos
I like the idea of experimenting with new knowledgespaces, with new workflows to support them. With enough investment in design, I think this could be done on a large scale right in the project namespace of English Wikipedia. Thanks, Pharos On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Sarah (SV)

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-01 Thread Lennart Guldbrandsson
Hello, This is very interesting. Thank you for sharing. Please let us know if and when it can be shared more freely. I know a few people who'd want to read about this. I know I was surprised to read that we would be better off trying to recruit new editors than to focus on retention (very

Re: [Gendergap] What would it take to Close the Gender Gap?

2015-06-01 Thread Samuel Klein
I agree that we could build on the sandbox model; add an extra filter to RC, design a different visual background for those pages, and otherwise keep this creative experimentation within existing wikis. But we can also test it out on on a different experimental site, if we don't have that