Re: [Jgeneral] error with Graphviz and/or webview in j901 under Windows

2020-02-29 Thread 'Michael Day' via General
Yes - I downloaded the zip file and copied up to j901 etc.  I note that 
jconsole.exe


has changed in size from my apparently aberrant installation. It's now 
207 nominal kB


rather than 177 I was using.

Anyway,  the graphview demo works,  as does Run/Launchpad which does not 
now show


qtdemo, as noted by Gilles in response to another query I put up an hour 
or two ago.


No idea why/how this has happened,  but perhaps I won't be troubling you 
for a while!


Thanks a lot,

Mike

On 29/02/2020 19:35, chris burke wrote:

I have no idea why your upgrade fails. All it does is get the zip from
https://www.jsoftware.com/download/j901/qtlib/ and extract it into
bin. It sounds like the extract does not overwrite some files.

Try deleting your J installation and install again.

On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 8:29 AM 'Michael Day' via General
 wrote:


Thanks,  Chris.
There are plenty of such files in bin - but I thought the date stamps
looked a bit old:
They are various, including April/19 for dlls: Qt5WebEngine,
Qt5MultiMedia etc,  and
November/19 for Qt5WebSockets, Qt5Widgets etc.

Taking your point about permissions,  quite a mystery with recent
incarnations of Windows,
I've retried once again,  this time starting up Jconsole "as
administrator" (Windows 10);


(JQt having been closed)


Jconsole: (as before)

 install'full'
Updating server catalog...
Installing 1 package
Downloading base library...
Installing base library...
Done.
Installing JQt binaries...
Finished install of JQt binaries.
Installing Qt library...
Finished install of Qt library.
Exit and restart J using jqt.cmd

 JVERSION
Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows
Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19
Library: 9.01.21
Platform: Win 64
Installer: J901 install
InstallPath: c:/d/j901
Contact: www.jsoftware.com


The date-stamps don't appear to have changed for those dlls.

Restarting JQt results in the same behaviour.



Just now, I noticed my  laptop was telling me it wanted to update, so
I've restarted
Windows.  I thought this might reset JQt in some fashion,  but
restarting JQt once more
still yields the same result with ...smtest.ijs, while JVERSION
continues showing:
AFTER Windows update and restart:
Qt IDE: 1.8.5s/5.12.6
Any other ideas?
NB - this isn't terribly important to me,  but you presumably need to
know what's going
wrong anyway,
Cheers,
MIke


On 29/02/2020 14:19, chris burke wrote:

After running install'full', then the J bin directory should have file
Qt5WebEngine.dll (as well as several other files included with full.

Do you see that file in bin?

Are there any permission problems, e.g. you are running the
install'full' but cannot save to bin?

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 2:56 PM 'Michael Day' via General
  wrote:

OK, Chris  - just back home from evening rehearsal ...

This "log" records what I've done since then (J-wise, anyway):

0) have just closed down the one JQt session which I'd left open - via
exit''

1) have run jconsole anew - here's a copy of the session:

  JVERSION
Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows
Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19
Library: 9.01.21
Platform: Win 64
Installer: J901 install
InstallPath: c:/d/j901
Contact:www.jsoftware.com

  install'full'
Updating server catalog...
Installing 1 package
Downloading base library...
Installing base library...
Done.
Installing JQt binaries...
Finished install of JQt binaries.
Installing Qt library...
Finished install of Qt library.
Exit and restart J using jqt.cmd

2) exit'' in jconsole

3) (re)start JQt:

  load 'c:/d/j901/addons/graphics/graphviz/testsm/csv.ijs'
|cc : child not supported: webview
: wd
|   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')(13!:8)3
|[-22] c:\d\j901\addons\graphics\graphviz\testsm\csv.ijs

  JVERSION
Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows
Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19
Library: 9.01.21
Qt IDE: 1.8.5s/5.12.6
Platform: Win 64
Installer: J901 install
InstallPath: c:/d/j901
Contact:www.jsoftware.com

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Re: [Jgeneral] A good version of Linux

2020-02-29 Thread Joachim Hoffmann

Hi Devon,

JFYI, I just got Shakti running without problems in Konsole
on KDE Manjaro 64bit , which is an Arch derivative.
Documentation and system requirements a scarce though.

HTH
/JoHo


On 25.02.2020 18:02, Devon McCormick wrote:

Thanks to everyone for your answers.  I worked with a couple of flavors of
*nix years ago and am interested to see how it has progressed since then.

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:54 AM Alex Shroyer  wrote:


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Re: [Jgeneral] error with Graphviz and/or webview in j901 under Windows

2020-02-29 Thread chris burke
I have no idea why your upgrade fails. All it does is get the zip from
https://www.jsoftware.com/download/j901/qtlib/ and extract it into
bin. It sounds like the extract does not overwrite some files.

Try deleting your J installation and install again.

On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 8:29 AM 'Michael Day' via General
 wrote:
>
>
> Thanks,  Chris.
> There are plenty of such files in bin - but I thought the date stamps
> looked a bit old:
> They are various, including April/19 for dlls: Qt5WebEngine,
> Qt5MultiMedia etc,  and
> November/19 for Qt5WebSockets, Qt5Widgets etc.
>
> Taking your point about permissions,  quite a mystery with recent
> incarnations of Windows,
> I've retried once again,  this time starting up Jconsole "as
> administrator" (Windows 10);
>
>
> (JQt having been closed)
>
>
> Jconsole: (as before)
>
> install'full'
> Updating server catalog...
> Installing 1 package
> Downloading base library...
> Installing base library...
> Done.
> Installing JQt binaries...
> Finished install of JQt binaries.
> Installing Qt library...
> Finished install of Qt library.
> Exit and restart J using jqt.cmd
>
> JVERSION
> Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows
> Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19
> Library: 9.01.21
> Platform: Win 64
> Installer: J901 install
> InstallPath: c:/d/j901
> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
>
>
> The date-stamps don't appear to have changed for those dlls.
>
> Restarting JQt results in the same behaviour.
>
>
>
> Just now, I noticed my  laptop was telling me it wanted to update, so
> I've restarted
> Windows.  I thought this might reset JQt in some fashion,  but
> restarting JQt once more
> still yields the same result with ...smtest.ijs, while JVERSION
> continues showing:
> AFTER Windows update and restart:
> Qt IDE: 1.8.5s/5.12.6
> Any other ideas?
> NB - this isn't terribly important to me,  but you presumably need to
> know what's going
> wrong anyway,
> Cheers,
> MIke
>
>
> On 29/02/2020 14:19, chris burke wrote:
> > After running install'full', then the J bin directory should have file
> > Qt5WebEngine.dll (as well as several other files included with full.
> >
> > Do you see that file in bin?
> >
> > Are there any permission problems, e.g. you are running the
> > install'full' but cannot save to bin?
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 2:56 PM 'Michael Day' via General
> >   wrote:
> >> OK, Chris  - just back home from evening rehearsal ...
> >>
> >> This "log" records what I've done since then (J-wise, anyway):
> >>
> >> 0) have just closed down the one JQt session which I'd left open - via
> >> exit''
> >>
> >> 1) have run jconsole anew - here's a copy of the session:
> >>
> >>  JVERSION
> >> Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows
> >> Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19
> >> Library: 9.01.21
> >> Platform: Win 64
> >> Installer: J901 install
> >> InstallPath: c:/d/j901
> >> Contact:www.jsoftware.com
> >>
> >>  install'full'
> >> Updating server catalog...
> >> Installing 1 package
> >> Downloading base library...
> >> Installing base library...
> >> Done.
> >> Installing JQt binaries...
> >> Finished install of JQt binaries.
> >> Installing Qt library...
> >> Finished install of Qt library.
> >> Exit and restart J using jqt.cmd
> >>
> >> 2) exit'' in jconsole
> >>
> >> 3) (re)start JQt:
> >>
> >>  load 'c:/d/j901/addons/graphics/graphviz/testsm/csv.ijs'
> >> |cc : child not supported: webview
> >> : wd
> >> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')(13!:8)3
> >> |[-22] c:\d\j901\addons\graphics\graphviz\testsm\csv.ijs
> >>
> >>  JVERSION
> >> Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows
> >> Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19
> >> Library: 9.01.21
> >> Qt IDE: 1.8.5s/5.12.6
> >> Platform: Win 64
> >> Installer: J901 install
> >> InstallPath: c:/d/j901
> >> Contact:www.jsoftware.com
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Re: [Jgeneral] Launchpad curiosity

2020-02-29 Thread Gilles Kirouac
In my win10 installation (current as of five minutes ago), Qt Demos is
under Help, Studio, not Run, Launch Pad.

 ~ Gilles
Le 2020-02-29 à 13:32, 'Michael Day' via General a écrit :
>
> In my JQt session I tried Run/Launch Pad/qtdemo with this result:

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[Jgeneral] Launchpad curiosity

2020-02-29 Thread 'Michael Day' via General
Looking around for what might be wrong with my installation of JQt 
(concerning the problem

running graphviz,  currently being discussed)  I noticed the JWiki page,
https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Guides/Qt_IDE/Configure/Launch_Pad
In my JQt session I tried Run/Launch Pad/qtdemo with this result:
not found: c:/d/j901/addons/ide/qt/demo/qtdemo.ijs
|file name error: script
|   0!:0 y[4!:55<'y'

Running Package Manager in case I'd missed this addon,  I then spotted 
qtdemo.ijs elsewhere:

~addons/demos/qtdemo/qtdemo.ijs
which is perfectly reasonable.  That script appears to run without error.

No great problem for me,  but might be of interest and concern elsewhere,
Cheers,
Mike


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Re: [Jgeneral] error with Graphviz and/or webview in j901 under Windows

2020-02-29 Thread 'Michael Day' via General


Thanks,  Chris.
There are plenty of such files in bin - but I thought the date stamps 
looked a bit old:
They are various, including April/19 for dlls: Qt5WebEngine, 
Qt5MultiMedia etc,  and

November/19 for Qt5WebSockets, Qt5Widgets etc.

Taking your point about permissions,  quite a mystery with recent 
incarnations of Windows,
I've retried once again,  this time starting up Jconsole "as 
administrator" (Windows 10);



(JQt having been closed)


Jconsole: (as before)

   install'full'
Updating server catalog...
Installing 1 package
Downloading base library...
Installing base library...
Done.
Installing JQt binaries...
Finished install of JQt binaries.
Installing Qt library...
Finished install of Qt library.
Exit and restart J using jqt.cmd

   JVERSION
Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows
Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19
Library: 9.01.21
Platform: Win 64
Installer: J901 install
InstallPath: c:/d/j901
Contact: www.jsoftware.com


The date-stamps don't appear to have changed for those dlls.

Restarting JQt results in the same behaviour.



Just now, I noticed my  laptop was telling me it wanted to update, so 
I've restarted
Windows.  I thought this might reset JQt in some fashion,  but 
restarting JQt once more
still yields the same result with ...smtest.ijs, while JVERSION 
continues showing:

AFTER Windows update and restart:
Qt IDE: 1.8.5s/5.12.6
Any other ideas?
NB - this isn't terribly important to me,  but you presumably need to 
know what's going

wrong anyway,
Cheers,
MIke


On 29/02/2020 14:19, chris burke wrote:

After running install'full', then the J bin directory should have file
Qt5WebEngine.dll (as well as several other files included with full.

Do you see that file in bin?

Are there any permission problems, e.g. you are running the
install'full' but cannot save to bin?

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 2:56 PM 'Michael Day' via General
  wrote:

OK, Chris  - just back home from evening rehearsal ...

This "log" records what I've done since then (J-wise, anyway):

0) have just closed down the one JQt session which I'd left open - via
exit''

1) have run jconsole anew - here's a copy of the session:

 JVERSION
Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows
Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19
Library: 9.01.21
Platform: Win 64
Installer: J901 install
InstallPath: c:/d/j901
Contact:www.jsoftware.com

 install'full'
Updating server catalog...
Installing 1 package
Downloading base library...
Installing base library...
Done.
Installing JQt binaries...
Finished install of JQt binaries.
Installing Qt library...
Finished install of Qt library.
Exit and restart J using jqt.cmd

2) exit'' in jconsole

3) (re)start JQt:

 load 'c:/d/j901/addons/graphics/graphviz/testsm/csv.ijs'
|cc : child not supported: webview
: wd
|   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')(13!:8)3
|[-22] c:\d\j901\addons\graphics\graphviz\testsm\csv.ijs

 JVERSION
Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows
Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19
Library: 9.01.21
Qt IDE: 1.8.5s/5.12.6
Platform: Win 64
Installer: J901 install
InstallPath: c:/d/j901
Contact:www.jsoftware.com

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Re: [Jgeneral] error with Graphviz and/or webview in j901 under Windows

2020-02-29 Thread chris burke
After running install'full', then the J bin directory should have file
Qt5WebEngine.dll (as well as several other files included with full.

Do you see that file in bin?

Are there any permission problems, e.g. you are running the
install'full' but cannot save to bin?

On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 2:56 PM 'Michael Day' via General
 wrote:
>
> OK, Chris  - just back home from evening rehearsal ...
>
> This "log" records what I've done since then (J-wise, anyway):
>
> 0) have just closed down the one JQt session which I'd left open - via
> exit''
>
> 1) have run jconsole anew - here's a copy of the session:
>
> JVERSION
> Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows
> Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19
> Library: 9.01.21
> Platform: Win 64
> Installer: J901 install
> InstallPath: c:/d/j901
> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
>
> install'full'
> Updating server catalog...
> Installing 1 package
> Downloading base library...
> Installing base library...
> Done.
> Installing JQt binaries...
> Finished install of JQt binaries.
> Installing Qt library...
> Finished install of Qt library.
> Exit and restart J using jqt.cmd
>
> 2) exit'' in jconsole
>
> 3) (re)start JQt:
>
> load 'c:/d/j901/addons/graphics/graphviz/testsm/csv.ijs'
> |cc : child not supported: webview
> : wd
> |   (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')(13!:8)3
> |[-22] c:\d\j901\addons\graphics\graphviz\testsm\csv.ijs
>
> JVERSION
> Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows
> Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19
> Library: 9.01.21
> Qt IDE: 1.8.5s/5.12.6
> Platform: Win 64
> Installer: J901 install
> InstallPath: c:/d/j901
> Contact: www.jsoftware.com
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Re: [Jgeneral] Should NuVoc be J's "Splash" page?

2020-02-29 Thread Ian Clark
I think it ought to be the Zippy cartoon.

Seriously though – in the Age of Google, what sort of person makes first
contact with a website via the homepage?

On my next night-off, instead of browsing YouTube I think I'll type the
name of every dot-com I can think of, and see what comes up.

On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 20:55, Eric Iverson  wrote:

> I wouldn't mind at all if people completely new to J took a minute to at
> least skim the home page.
>
> I think we're more likely to lose people because they are bewildered by
> NuVoc than we are to lose people because it took them a minute and two
> clicks to find it.
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 3:43 PM Henry Rich  wrote:
>
> > Could there be a little graphic of NuVoc on a front-page link? The sort
> > of user who would be excited by a picture of a table of primitives is
> > the sort of person we would like to impress.
> >
> > Henry Rich
> >
> > On 2/27/2020 3:39 PM, Eric Iverson wrote:
> > > NuVoc is reasonably front and center.
> > >
> > > At the web site home page:
> > >wiki-main page ->   main page - guides - Nuvoc
> > >
> > >  From the home page it is 2 clicks away.
> > >
> > > JHS menu wiki has a link to NuVoc.
> > >
> > > Jqt menu help has vocab that is a link to NuVoc.
> > >
> > > As a community we could perhaps be better in pointing this out to
> users.
> > > When answering a question it can be good to follow up with pointers to
> > > relevant docs such as nuvoc.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 3:20 PM Devon McCormick 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi - I was talking with a group of non-J array-programmers last night
> > and
> > >> one of them opined that the NuVoc page should be front and center when
> > >> someone looks at the J site.
> > >>
> > >> I agree with this as it presents a high-level overview of the language
> > as
> > >> the first thing people will see.  I imagine some will be intimidated
> > away
> > >> but others will be intrigued and we want to engage the latter.
> > >>
> > >> Maybe this should be on "J-chat" but I'm interested in what others
> > think of
> > >> this proposal.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> Devon McCormick, CFA
> > >>
> > >> Quantitative Consultant
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