Re: [Jgeneral] error with Graphviz and/or webview in j901 under Windows
Yes - I downloaded the zip file and copied up to j901 etc. I note that jconsole.exe has changed in size from my apparently aberrant installation. It's now 207 nominal kB rather than 177 I was using. Anyway, the graphview demo works, as does Run/Launchpad which does not now show qtdemo, as noted by Gilles in response to another query I put up an hour or two ago. No idea why/how this has happened, but perhaps I won't be troubling you for a while! Thanks a lot, Mike On 29/02/2020 19:35, chris burke wrote: I have no idea why your upgrade fails. All it does is get the zip from https://www.jsoftware.com/download/j901/qtlib/ and extract it into bin. It sounds like the extract does not overwrite some files. Try deleting your J installation and install again. On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 8:29 AM 'Michael Day' via General wrote: Thanks, Chris. There are plenty of such files in bin - but I thought the date stamps looked a bit old: They are various, including April/19 for dlls: Qt5WebEngine, Qt5MultiMedia etc, and November/19 for Qt5WebSockets, Qt5Widgets etc. Taking your point about permissions, quite a mystery with recent incarnations of Windows, I've retried once again, this time starting up Jconsole "as administrator" (Windows 10); (JQt having been closed) Jconsole: (as before) install'full' Updating server catalog... Installing 1 package Downloading base library... Installing base library... Done. Installing JQt binaries... Finished install of JQt binaries. Installing Qt library... Finished install of Qt library. Exit and restart J using jqt.cmd JVERSION Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19 Library: 9.01.21 Platform: Win 64 Installer: J901 install InstallPath: c:/d/j901 Contact: www.jsoftware.com The date-stamps don't appear to have changed for those dlls. Restarting JQt results in the same behaviour. Just now, I noticed my laptop was telling me it wanted to update, so I've restarted Windows. I thought this might reset JQt in some fashion, but restarting JQt once more still yields the same result with ...smtest.ijs, while JVERSION continues showing: AFTER Windows update and restart: Qt IDE: 1.8.5s/5.12.6 Any other ideas? NB - this isn't terribly important to me, but you presumably need to know what's going wrong anyway, Cheers, MIke On 29/02/2020 14:19, chris burke wrote: After running install'full', then the J bin directory should have file Qt5WebEngine.dll (as well as several other files included with full. Do you see that file in bin? Are there any permission problems, e.g. you are running the install'full' but cannot save to bin? On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 2:56 PM 'Michael Day' via General wrote: OK, Chris - just back home from evening rehearsal ... This "log" records what I've done since then (J-wise, anyway): 0) have just closed down the one JQt session which I'd left open - via exit'' 1) have run jconsole anew - here's a copy of the session: JVERSION Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19 Library: 9.01.21 Platform: Win 64 Installer: J901 install InstallPath: c:/d/j901 Contact:www.jsoftware.com install'full' Updating server catalog... Installing 1 package Downloading base library... Installing base library... Done. Installing JQt binaries... Finished install of JQt binaries. Installing Qt library... Finished install of Qt library. Exit and restart J using jqt.cmd 2) exit'' in jconsole 3) (re)start JQt: load 'c:/d/j901/addons/graphics/graphviz/testsm/csv.ijs' |cc : child not supported: webview : wd | (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')(13!:8)3 |[-22] c:\d\j901\addons\graphics\graphviz\testsm\csv.ijs JVERSION Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19 Library: 9.01.21 Qt IDE: 1.8.5s/5.12.6 Platform: Win 64 Installer: J901 install InstallPath: c:/d/j901 Contact:www.jsoftware.com -- For information about J forums seehttp://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jgeneral] A good version of Linux
Hi Devon, JFYI, I just got Shakti running without problems in Konsole on KDE Manjaro 64bit , which is an Arch derivative. Documentation and system requirements a scarce though. HTH /JoHo On 25.02.2020 18:02, Devon McCormick wrote: Thanks to everyone for your answers. I worked with a couple of flavors of *nix years ago and am interested to see how it has progressed since then. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:54 AM Alex Shroyer wrote: -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jgeneral] error with Graphviz and/or webview in j901 under Windows
I have no idea why your upgrade fails. All it does is get the zip from https://www.jsoftware.com/download/j901/qtlib/ and extract it into bin. It sounds like the extract does not overwrite some files. Try deleting your J installation and install again. On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 8:29 AM 'Michael Day' via General wrote: > > > Thanks, Chris. > There are plenty of such files in bin - but I thought the date stamps > looked a bit old: > They are various, including April/19 for dlls: Qt5WebEngine, > Qt5MultiMedia etc, and > November/19 for Qt5WebSockets, Qt5Widgets etc. > > Taking your point about permissions, quite a mystery with recent > incarnations of Windows, > I've retried once again, this time starting up Jconsole "as > administrator" (Windows 10); > > > (JQt having been closed) > > > Jconsole: (as before) > > install'full' > Updating server catalog... > Installing 1 package > Downloading base library... > Installing base library... > Done. > Installing JQt binaries... > Finished install of JQt binaries. > Installing Qt library... > Finished install of Qt library. > Exit and restart J using jqt.cmd > > JVERSION > Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows > Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19 > Library: 9.01.21 > Platform: Win 64 > Installer: J901 install > InstallPath: c:/d/j901 > Contact: www.jsoftware.com > > > The date-stamps don't appear to have changed for those dlls. > > Restarting JQt results in the same behaviour. > > > > Just now, I noticed my laptop was telling me it wanted to update, so > I've restarted > Windows. I thought this might reset JQt in some fashion, but > restarting JQt once more > still yields the same result with ...smtest.ijs, while JVERSION > continues showing: > AFTER Windows update and restart: > Qt IDE: 1.8.5s/5.12.6 > Any other ideas? > NB - this isn't terribly important to me, but you presumably need to > know what's going > wrong anyway, > Cheers, > MIke > > > On 29/02/2020 14:19, chris burke wrote: > > After running install'full', then the J bin directory should have file > > Qt5WebEngine.dll (as well as several other files included with full. > > > > Do you see that file in bin? > > > > Are there any permission problems, e.g. you are running the > > install'full' but cannot save to bin? > > > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 2:56 PM 'Michael Day' via General > > wrote: > >> OK, Chris - just back home from evening rehearsal ... > >> > >> This "log" records what I've done since then (J-wise, anyway): > >> > >> 0) have just closed down the one JQt session which I'd left open - via > >> exit'' > >> > >> 1) have run jconsole anew - here's a copy of the session: > >> > >> JVERSION > >> Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows > >> Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19 > >> Library: 9.01.21 > >> Platform: Win 64 > >> Installer: J901 install > >> InstallPath: c:/d/j901 > >> Contact:www.jsoftware.com > >> > >> install'full' > >> Updating server catalog... > >> Installing 1 package > >> Downloading base library... > >> Installing base library... > >> Done. > >> Installing JQt binaries... > >> Finished install of JQt binaries. > >> Installing Qt library... > >> Finished install of Qt library. > >> Exit and restart J using jqt.cmd > >> > >> 2) exit'' in jconsole > >> > >> 3) (re)start JQt: > >> > >> load 'c:/d/j901/addons/graphics/graphviz/testsm/csv.ijs' > >> |cc : child not supported: webview > >> : wd > >> | (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')(13!:8)3 > >> |[-22] c:\d\j901\addons\graphics\graphviz\testsm\csv.ijs > >> > >> JVERSION > >> Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows > >> Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19 > >> Library: 9.01.21 > >> Qt IDE: 1.8.5s/5.12.6 > >> Platform: Win 64 > >> Installer: J901 install > >> InstallPath: c:/d/j901 > >> Contact:www.jsoftware.com > > -- > > For information about J forums seehttp://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jgeneral] Launchpad curiosity
In my win10 installation (current as of five minutes ago), Qt Demos is under Help, Studio, not Run, Launch Pad. ~ Gilles Le 2020-02-29 à 13:32, 'Michael Day' via General a écrit : > > In my JQt session I tried Run/Launch Pad/qtdemo with this result: -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
[Jgeneral] Launchpad curiosity
Looking around for what might be wrong with my installation of JQt (concerning the problem running graphviz, currently being discussed) I noticed the JWiki page, https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/Guides/Qt_IDE/Configure/Launch_Pad In my JQt session I tried Run/Launch Pad/qtdemo with this result: not found: c:/d/j901/addons/ide/qt/demo/qtdemo.ijs |file name error: script | 0!:0 y[4!:55<'y' Running Package Manager in case I'd missed this addon, I then spotted qtdemo.ijs elsewhere: ~addons/demos/qtdemo/qtdemo.ijs which is perfectly reasonable. That script appears to run without error. No great problem for me, but might be of interest and concern elsewhere, Cheers, Mike -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jgeneral] error with Graphviz and/or webview in j901 under Windows
Thanks, Chris. There are plenty of such files in bin - but I thought the date stamps looked a bit old: They are various, including April/19 for dlls: Qt5WebEngine, Qt5MultiMedia etc, and November/19 for Qt5WebSockets, Qt5Widgets etc. Taking your point about permissions, quite a mystery with recent incarnations of Windows, I've retried once again, this time starting up Jconsole "as administrator" (Windows 10); (JQt having been closed) Jconsole: (as before) install'full' Updating server catalog... Installing 1 package Downloading base library... Installing base library... Done. Installing JQt binaries... Finished install of JQt binaries. Installing Qt library... Finished install of Qt library. Exit and restart J using jqt.cmd JVERSION Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19 Library: 9.01.21 Platform: Win 64 Installer: J901 install InstallPath: c:/d/j901 Contact: www.jsoftware.com The date-stamps don't appear to have changed for those dlls. Restarting JQt results in the same behaviour. Just now, I noticed my laptop was telling me it wanted to update, so I've restarted Windows. I thought this might reset JQt in some fashion, but restarting JQt once more still yields the same result with ...smtest.ijs, while JVERSION continues showing: AFTER Windows update and restart: Qt IDE: 1.8.5s/5.12.6 Any other ideas? NB - this isn't terribly important to me, but you presumably need to know what's going wrong anyway, Cheers, MIke On 29/02/2020 14:19, chris burke wrote: After running install'full', then the J bin directory should have file Qt5WebEngine.dll (as well as several other files included with full. Do you see that file in bin? Are there any permission problems, e.g. you are running the install'full' but cannot save to bin? On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 2:56 PM 'Michael Day' via General wrote: OK, Chris - just back home from evening rehearsal ... This "log" records what I've done since then (J-wise, anyway): 0) have just closed down the one JQt session which I'd left open - via exit'' 1) have run jconsole anew - here's a copy of the session: JVERSION Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19 Library: 9.01.21 Platform: Win 64 Installer: J901 install InstallPath: c:/d/j901 Contact:www.jsoftware.com install'full' Updating server catalog... Installing 1 package Downloading base library... Installing base library... Done. Installing JQt binaries... Finished install of JQt binaries. Installing Qt library... Finished install of Qt library. Exit and restart J using jqt.cmd 2) exit'' in jconsole 3) (re)start JQt: load 'c:/d/j901/addons/graphics/graphviz/testsm/csv.ijs' |cc : child not supported: webview : wd | (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')(13!:8)3 |[-22] c:\d\j901\addons\graphics\graphviz\testsm\csv.ijs JVERSION Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19 Library: 9.01.21 Qt IDE: 1.8.5s/5.12.6 Platform: Win 64 Installer: J901 install InstallPath: c:/d/j901 Contact:www.jsoftware.com -- For information about J forums seehttp://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jgeneral] error with Graphviz and/or webview in j901 under Windows
After running install'full', then the J bin directory should have file Qt5WebEngine.dll (as well as several other files included with full. Do you see that file in bin? Are there any permission problems, e.g. you are running the install'full' but cannot save to bin? On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 2:56 PM 'Michael Day' via General wrote: > > OK, Chris - just back home from evening rehearsal ... > > This "log" records what I've done since then (J-wise, anyway): > > 0) have just closed down the one JQt session which I'd left open - via > exit'' > > 1) have run jconsole anew - here's a copy of the session: > > JVERSION > Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows > Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19 > Library: 9.01.21 > Platform: Win 64 > Installer: J901 install > InstallPath: c:/d/j901 > Contact: www.jsoftware.com > > install'full' > Updating server catalog... > Installing 1 package > Downloading base library... > Installing base library... > Done. > Installing JQt binaries... > Finished install of JQt binaries. > Installing Qt library... > Finished install of Qt library. > Exit and restart J using jqt.cmd > > 2) exit'' in jconsole > > 3) (re)start JQt: > > load 'c:/d/j901/addons/graphics/graphviz/testsm/csv.ijs' > |cc : child not supported: webview > : wd > | (LF,~wd ::(''"_)'qer')(13!:8)3 > |[-22] c:\d\j901\addons\graphics\graphviz\testsm\csv.ijs > > JVERSION > Engine: j901/j64avx2/windows > Release-e: commercial/2020-01-29T11:17:19 > Library: 9.01.21 > Qt IDE: 1.8.5s/5.12.6 > Platform: Win 64 > Installer: J901 install > InstallPath: c:/d/j901 > Contact: www.jsoftware.com -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jgeneral] Should NuVoc be J's "Splash" page?
I think it ought to be the Zippy cartoon. Seriously though – in the Age of Google, what sort of person makes first contact with a website via the homepage? On my next night-off, instead of browsing YouTube I think I'll type the name of every dot-com I can think of, and see what comes up. On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 20:55, Eric Iverson wrote: > I wouldn't mind at all if people completely new to J took a minute to at > least skim the home page. > > I think we're more likely to lose people because they are bewildered by > NuVoc than we are to lose people because it took them a minute and two > clicks to find it. > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 3:43 PM Henry Rich wrote: > > > Could there be a little graphic of NuVoc on a front-page link? The sort > > of user who would be excited by a picture of a table of primitives is > > the sort of person we would like to impress. > > > > Henry Rich > > > > On 2/27/2020 3:39 PM, Eric Iverson wrote: > > > NuVoc is reasonably front and center. > > > > > > At the web site home page: > > >wiki-main page -> main page - guides - Nuvoc > > > > > > From the home page it is 2 clicks away. > > > > > > JHS menu wiki has a link to NuVoc. > > > > > > Jqt menu help has vocab that is a link to NuVoc. > > > > > > As a community we could perhaps be better in pointing this out to > users. > > > When answering a question it can be good to follow up with pointers to > > > relevant docs such as nuvoc. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 3:20 PM Devon McCormick > > wrote: > > > > > >> Hi - I was talking with a group of non-J array-programmers last night > > and > > >> one of them opined that the NuVoc page should be front and center when > > >> someone looks at the J site. > > >> > > >> I agree with this as it presents a high-level overview of the language > > as > > >> the first thing people will see. I imagine some will be intimidated > > away > > >> but others will be intrigued and we want to engage the latter. > > >> > > >> Maybe this should be on "J-chat" but I'm interested in what others > > think of > > >> this proposal. > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> > > >> Devon McCormick, CFA > > >> > > >> Quantitative Consultant > > >> -- > > >> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > >> > > > -- > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > -- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > -- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm