Re: [Jgeneral] @jsoftware.com vs @forums.jsoftware.com
On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 10:25 AM Rudolf Sykora wrote: > PS.: If the email sent (by mistake) directly to sth@forums.jsoftware > (ie. not coming from google's front-end machine) were automatically > resent to sth@jsoftware (the machine it was supposed to go to), I would > expect that there would not be any trouble at all. I am not sure that this should be the case: I suspect that this approach would invite mail loops and/or defeat some anti-spam measures. For email purposes, the name 'jsoftware.com' refers to a farm of google mail handling machines, and the name forums.jsoftware.com is the jsoftware.com web server and mail archive. For web browsing purposes they are the same machine (but with different "virtual hosts" and, thus, different content). Put different: it seems like what you're suggesting is that the jsoftware mail archive should be prepared to step in front of google's anti-spam measures for anyone who has the knowledge and motivation to take advantage of this detail. That said, note also that there is some evidence of decay related to some of google's implementation (for example: the signature failure visible in the headers of the message you sent). So further decay in this context might be harmless (or, slight chance: catastrophic). Anyways, I hope this sheds a little light on the situation for you. Thanks, -- Raul -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jgeneral] @jsoftware.com vs @forums.jsoftware.com
Raul Miller writes: > Anyways, personally, ... I have never sent email to > @forums.jsoftware.com and I have no idea why I should want to. You send email to j fora regularly, hence you most probably have the address automatically filled in,... , hence no problem. > The resulting rule is: use the shorter email address when you have to > choose in this context. Will try to remember this. :) "Less is better." Thanks Ruda PS.: If the email sent (by mistake) directly to sth@forums.jsoftware (ie. not coming from google's front-end machine) were automatically resent to sth@jsoftware (the machine it was supposed to go to), I would expect that there would not be any trouble at all. -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jgeneral] @jsoftware.com vs @forums.jsoftware.com
On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 4:30 PM Rudolf Sykora wrote: > The biggest problem for me is that there is no clear sign of failure. You can thank spammers, and the annoyance they've generated, for your appreciation of that quirk. Anyways, personally, ... I have never sent email to @forums.jsoftware.com and I have no idea why I should want to. The resulting rule is: use the shorter email address when you have to choose in this context. Good luck, -- Raul -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jgeneral] @jsoftware.com vs @forums.jsoftware.com
chris burke writes: > Please see https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Forums#Mail_Routing . > > It would be nice if the forums.jsoftware.com address were completely > hidden, but I don't know how to do that. That is actually the page I consulted several times in the past in order to check what to do... Today (again), I sent my email, then checked the web archive of messages to see if the message arrived (since I didn't see it had arrived in my e-mail), noticed it didn't, checked the page you mentioned above, and resent the email to the right address. The biggest problem for me is that there is no clear sign of failure. Ruda -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jgeneral] @jsoftware.com vs @forums.jsoftware.com
Hi Ruda Please see https://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/System/Forums#Mail_Routing . It would be nice if the forums.jsoftware.com address were completely hidden, but I don't know how to do that. Chris On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 11:53 AM wrote: > Hello, > > > as I bumped into this several times before, I want to ask: > Is it really necessary to have both @jsoftware.com and > @forums.jsoftware.com? I never remember the right one to send > a message to... (And in the end I tend to send to the wrong one, > to the latter.) And if both are needed, do the emails going to > @forums... have to be discarded? > > > Thanks > Ruda > -- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jgeneral] @jsoftware.com vs @forums.jsoftware.com
On my iPhone, as soon as I type a group/fourm name in a To; field (programming, chat, General, beta, etc.) it fills out the appropriate ...@Jsoftware based on past emails I have sent before. To access Jsoftware sites, I have a first menu page app folder that includes j602 reference, Nuvoc, Jreference, Fourm Search, etc., all the Jsoftware pages I frequently visit. > On Feb 6, 2020, at 2:53 PM, rsyk...@disroot.org wrote: > > Hello, > > > as I bumped into this several times before, I want to ask: > Is it really necessary to have both @jsoftware.com and > @forums.jsoftware.com? I never remember the right one to send > a message to... (And in the end I tend to send to the wrong one, > to the latter.) And if both are needed, do the emails going to > @forums... have to be discarded? > > > Thanks > Ruda > -- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
[Jgeneral] @jsoftware.com vs @forums.jsoftware.com
Hello, as I bumped into this several times before, I want to ask: Is it really necessary to have both @jsoftware.com and @forums.jsoftware.com? I never remember the right one to send a message to... (And in the end I tend to send to the wrong one, to the latter.) And if both are needed, do the emails going to @forums... have to be discarded? Thanks Ruda -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
