Re: Maven generated descriptors and runtime="true"

2005-01-21 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SPF is running - it will drop it, and I've seen it happen. Seems to be working again - or at least did yesterday. Stefan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Maven generated descriptors and runtime="true"

2005-01-18 Thread Brett Porter
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 12:09:11 +0100, Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> If we allow [EMAIL PROTECTED] to post to [EMAIL PROTECTED], > >> then suddenly a lot of viruses will get through. How many viruses > >> have you rece

Re: Maven generated descriptors and runtime="true"

2005-01-18 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If we allow [EMAIL PROTECTED] to post to [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> then suddenly a lot of viruses will get through. How many viruses >> have you received that have been "sent" from yourself? > > Doesn't the mailer drop it because it was

Re: Maven generated descriptors and runtime="true"

2005-01-18 Thread Brett Porter
> They should (Maven should use CVS Ant and CVS Jelly) - at some point. Sure, but one step at a time. > > They've gotten through in the past. We should probably change the > > from address to general@gump.apache.org and make sure it gets > > moderated through, I guess. > > IMHO we should use rea

Re: Maven generated descriptors and runtime="true"

2005-01-18 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I didn't quite understand why something would be needed at build >> > time, but not runtime? >> >> Ant or JavaCC, for example. > > Right, build != compile - sorry I wasn't thinking straight. These > don't often affect Maven if the

Re: Maven generated descriptors and runtime="true"

2005-01-18 Thread Brett Porter
> > I didn't quite understand why something would be needed at build > > time, but not runtime? > > Ant or JavaCC, for example. Right, build != compile - sorry I wasn't thinking straight. These don't often affect Maven if the plugin is assumed to be installed. However, doesn't it really make mor

Re: Maven generated descriptors and runtime="true"

2005-01-18 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I didn't quite understand why something would be needed at build > time, but not runtime? Ant or JavaCC, for example. >> If that helps. I'm not sure. We still have a few cases of >> jelly-tags builds that passed in the Ant incarnat

Re: Maven generated descriptors and runtime="true"

2005-01-18 Thread Brett Porter
I didn't quite understand why something would be needed at build time, but not runtime? > If that helps. I'm not sure. We still have a few cases of jelly-tags > builds that passed in the Ant incarnation but fail now that we use > Maven. which ones? There haven't been any mails, and http://bru

Re: Maven generated descriptors and runtime="true"

2005-01-18 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sorry, the docs aren't very clear on runtime. Probably so. means "I need foo at runtime, not only at build time". runtime defaults to false. means I also need to depend on all dependencies of foo, those that foo has marked as r

Re: Maven generated descriptors and runtime="true"

2005-01-18 Thread Brett Porter
sorry, the docs aren't very clear on runtime. so none of the deps are transitive, unless they are given at run time? I guess I'm just trying to figure the reason to pass it around before adding more to the jelly metadata. I guess another alternative is to switch latka to its maven build? Anyway

Maven generated descriptors and runtime="true"

2005-01-18 Thread Stefan Bodewig
Hi all, when Jelly switched to a Maven generated descriptor, it lost all the runtime="true" attributes on the dependencies. As a result Latka, which uses Jelly during its tests, no longer picks up commons-collections (and probably others). Before I start adding the Jelly runtime dependencies lef