Project descriptors (was Re: [RT] href considered harmful)

2004-03-25 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Leo Simons wrote: I suggest we move to strike and loudly proclaim descriptors not living in gump CVS as harmful. Their use needs to be *strongly* discouraged from now on. Who's with me? I agree with you as a general principle. Too bad that the entire cocoon build

cvs commit: gump/project avalon.xml

2004-03-25 Thread mcconnell
mcconnell2004/03/25 03:24:49 Modified:project avalon.xml Log: Correct package name for the avalon logging impl package. Revision ChangesPath 1.44 +1 -1 gump/project/avalon.xml Index: avalon.xml

cvs commit: gump/project avalon.xml

2004-03-25 Thread mcconnell
mcconnell2004/03/25 03:26:12 Modified:project avalon.xml Log: Fix avalon meta impl package name. Revision ChangesPath 1.45 +1 -1 gump/project/avalon.xml Index: avalon.xml === RCS file:

cvs commit: gump/profile gump.xml

2004-03-25 Thread mcconnell
mcconnell2004/03/25 05:15:59 Modified:profile gump.xml Log: Add the avalon-legacy.xml project. Revision ChangesPath 1.329 +2 -1 gump/profile/gump.xml Index: gump.xml === RCS file:

Re: cvs@gump.apache.org?

2004-03-25 Thread Adam Jack
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Re: last night's build on lsd

2004-03-25 Thread Adam Jack
Yeah, it seems not. I don't know if this is related, but I had woes trying to run/test Gump on my VM server Gump-box yesterday also. Basically the poor box swapped itself to death, in part 'cos forrest grew so large. The xdocs were written, but the forrest site wasn't generated. I wonder if

Re: last night's build on lsd

2004-03-25 Thread Leo Simons
I just rebooted (remotely via ssh, took ages). Things seem alright now. Poor machine :D -- cheers, - Leo Simons --- Weblog -- http://leosimons.com/ IoC Component Glue -- http://jicarilla.org/ Articles Opinions --

[jira] Commented: (GUMP-34) Upgrade JDK on lsd to java 1.4.2_04

2004-03-25 Thread jira
The following comment has been added to this issue: Author: Leo Simons Created: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 8:32 AM Body: the release notes page says the following: --- Documentation Java[tm] 2 SDK, Standard Edition Version 1.4.2_03 (Microsoft Windows, Linux, and Solaris Operating

[jira] Work Started: (GUMP-34) Upgrade JDK on lsd to java 1.4.2_04

2004-03-25 Thread jira
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[jira] Work Stopped: (GUMP-34) Upgrade JDK on lsd to java 1.4.2_04

2004-03-25 Thread jira
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[jira] Closed: (GUMP-24) Make gump build directories accessible through web browser

2004-03-25 Thread jira
Message: The following issue has been closed. Resolver: Leo Simons Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 8:39 AM after some more talk on the mailing list, it came up that this is distribution of software, often without paying due respect to license requirements for distribution. So that's a

[jira] Work Started: (GUMP-25) document actual gump installations

2004-03-25 Thread jira
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[Gump Wiki] Updated: FrontPage

2004-03-25 Thread general
Date: 2004-03-25T08:41:05 Editor: 130.89.169.128 Wiki: Gump Wiki Page: FrontPage URL: http://wiki.apache.org/gump/FrontPage no comment Change Log: -- @@ -26,6 +26,9 @@ '''GumpCommandLineOptions'''

[Gump Wiki] New: GumpInfrastructure

2004-03-25 Thread general
Date: 2004-03-25T08:49:28 Editor: 130.89.169.128 Wiki: Gump Wiki Page: GumpInfrastructure URL: http://wiki.apache.org/gump/GumpInfrastructure no comment New Page: == Gump on lsd.student.utwente.nl == [http://lsd.student.utwente.nl/ lsd] is currently the main installation for

[jira] Commented: (GUMP-25) document actual gump installations

2004-03-25 Thread jira
The following comment has been added to this issue: Author: Leo Simons Created: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 8:50 AM Body: http://wiki.apache.org/gump/GumpInfrastructure - View this comment:

[jira] Assigned: (GUMP-25) document actual gump installations

2004-03-25 Thread jira
Message: The following issue has been re-assigned. Assignee: (mailto:) - View the issue: http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ViewIssue.jspa?key=GUMP-25 Here is an overview of the issue:

Re: nagoya much slower again...

2004-03-25 Thread Adam Jack
Who's Gump in whose account? Sam's? Is anybody aware of the outputs, let alone using them? I don't think folks have had access to the outputs (that they've known about) in forever. http://gump.apache.org/#Where+is+Gump%3F regards Adam - Original Message - From: Noel J. Bergman

RE: nagoya much slower again...

2004-03-25 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Who's Gump in whose account? Sam's? Is anybody aware of the outputs, let alone using them? Sam, and ask him. :-) --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Which gump on the new machines?

2004-03-25 Thread Sam Ruby
OK, it looks like there may be a new ASF hosted machine or two running gump in the next 24 or so hours. Which gump should be run on it? I'm willing to take the lead in getting it up and running, or simply suggest it be turned over to somebody who wishes to volunteer. Once it is up and

Re: Which gump on the new machines?

2004-03-25 Thread Adam Jack
OK, it looks like there may be a new ASF hosted machine or two running gump in the next 24 or so hours. Which gump should be run on it? Which? As in traditioanl verse Python? I think concensus has been Python for a while. We have a README in /usr/local/gump on moof, ought I post it here for

Re: Which gump on the new machines?

2004-03-25 Thread Adam Jack
We have a README in /usr/local/gump on moof, ought I post it here for folks? I can't get there this mo, and my eyebrowse search isn't bringing up when I posted it before. It has the steps involved. A google search found me this: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL

cvs commit: gump/project antworks-importer.xml

2004-03-25 Thread nickchalko
nickchalko2004/03/25 11:15:04 Modified:project antworks-importer.xml Log: Formated Revision ChangesPath 1.6 +12 -26gump/project/antworks-importer.xml Index: antworks-importer.xml === RCS

Re: Gump Thrashing/Spinning...

2004-03-25 Thread Leo Simons
Adam Jack wrote: Whatever the cause, I am really starting to get 'done' with forrest. I support it's use, I introduced it have dealt with the issues and built workarounds from day one, but it is hard work w/ no fun. I remember that feeling. I like the forrest project and I like the forrest devs

Re: Gump Thrashing/Spinning...

2004-03-25 Thread matthew.hawthorne
I wonder if we ought consider replacing Forrest with a pure Python HTML producer. As above, I can't prove that forrest is the problem, but a pure Python solution might just halve the unknowns. I've been using Python to generate HTML from XML via XSL for a few weeks now using 4suite. I'm fairly

Generating HTML (was Gump Threashing/Spinning)

2004-03-25 Thread Adam Jack
We should probably use a template engine. I'm sure there's a python equivalent for something like velocity (or smarty). First, I like the dynamic 'tree of nodes' based approach to writing HTML/XML, rather than template -- in the main because of pleasant experiences with the Perl modules for

Re: [RT] Gump Architecture

2004-03-25 Thread Nick Chalko
Leo Simons wrote: snip/ As for the buzzwords...let's create an action-based, data-centric, graph-based, versioning-enabled, highly componentized, extensible, continous integration system. I have no idea how to do any of that in python, but it sounds like fun to find out.. I had thought

Re: Gump Thrashing/Spinning...

2004-03-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Adam Jack wrote: I've been trying to run some quick jobs (a check.py not an integrate.py) to try to get insight into this problem. I'm finding (at least on my machine) that forrest is growing to huge size, and getting bogged down in swapping. I can't say this with certainty, but I feel that both

Re: Gump Thrashing/Spinning...

2004-03-25 Thread Nick Chalko
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Adam Jack wrote: Two possible solutions here: 1) use forrest as a dynamic application 2) have HTML generate by python I would go for 1) since it would keep us the ability to do dynamic stuff like metadata manipulation. I volunteer to setup 1) +1 for dynamic

Re: [RT] Gump Architecture

2004-03-25 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Leo Simons wrote: (did I mention I'm an avalon guy? :D) did I mention that Avalon is dying out of flexibility cancer? Dude, let's just fix things incrementally. Lazyness is a virtue and Darwin is your man. -- Stefano. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: Gump Thrashing/Spinning...

2004-03-25 Thread Adam Jack
1) use forrest as a dynamic application First, what do you mean by this, please? For those of us who don't know, could somebody elaborate? Second, I think it is forrest that is where we are getting stuck right now. Now sure why, but it is locking up. So, if we want forest, we have to figure

Re: [RT] Gump Architecture

2004-03-25 Thread Stephen McConnell
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Leo Simons wrote: (did I mention I'm an avalon guy? :D) did I mention that Avalon is dying out of flexibility cancer? Yes Stafano ... I've been watching your predications. Stephen. -- || | Magic by Merlin

Re: Generating HTML (was Gump Threashing/Spinning)

2004-03-25 Thread Adam Jack
First, I like the dynamic 'tree of nodes' based approach to writing HTML/XML, rather than template I like merging the concepts. Once you've built the tree, flatten the part of it that will make up the page, and feed that to the template engine. Even if you don't use a template engine,

Re: Gump Thrashing/Spinning...

2004-03-25 Thread Michael Davey
Adam Jack wrote: [snip] I think it is forrest that is where we are getting stuck right now. Now sure why, but it is locking up. So, if we want forest, we have to figure out how to get inside that problem. Which version are you using? Probably coincidence, but I recently stopped using CVS

Re: Gump Thrashing/Spinning...

2004-03-25 Thread Adam Jack
Unfortunately we are stuck with a recent CVS HEAD, if not latest, due to some features in the skin. We can't go back to a release. FWIIW: The release we have has been working for the last month or so, something just changed and dorked it. regards Adam - Original Message - From: Michael

Re: Cocoon not picking up framework api

2004-03-25 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Stephen McConnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like the cocoon core build is not picking up the avalon-framework-api. It does, but the jar file doesn't contain the CascadingThrowable class. Let's see [EMAIL PROTECTED] gump]$ find /javastuff/gump/avalon* -name