Re: [VOTE] RAT to enter incubator

2007-10-31 Thread Felix Meschberger
+1 (non binding) Regards Felix Am Dienstag, den 30.10.2007, 22:03 + schrieb Robert Burrell Donkin: i'd like to propose that the IPMC sponsors the entry of RAT into the incubator - robert --8-

Re: [VOTE] RAT to enter incubator

2007-10-31 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
[X ] +1 Allow RAT to enter incubator, sponsored by IPMC -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] RAT to enter incubator

2007-10-31 Thread Gilles Scokart
+1 (non-binding) Gilles 2007/10/30, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i'd like to propose that the IPMC sponsors the entry of RAT into the incubator - robert --8- [ ] +1 Allow RAT to enter

Re: [VOTE] RAT to enter incubator

2007-10-31 Thread Paul Fremantle
+1! Paul On 10/31/07, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [X ] +1 Allow RAT to enter incubator, sponsored by IPMC -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [VOTE] RAT to enter incubator

2007-10-31 Thread Guillaume Nodet
+1 On 10/30/07, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'd like to propose that the IPMC sponsors the entry of RAT into the incubator - robert --8- [ ] +1 Allow RAT to enter incubator,

Re: [VOTE] RAT to enter incubator

2007-10-31 Thread Jeremy Boynes
On Oct 30, 2007, at 10:03 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: --8-- --- [ ] +1 Allow RAT to enter incubator, sponsored by IPMC [ ] +0 [ ] -0 [ ] -1 Do no allow RAT to enter incubator

Re: [VOTE] RAT to enter incubator

2007-10-31 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 31 October 2007 06:03, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: After a lot of talks... FINALLY ;o) [x] +1 Allow RAT to enter incubator, sponsored by IPMC [ ] +0 [ ] -0 [ ] -1 Do no allow RAT to enter incubator Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer I live here;

Re: Diversity requirement

2007-10-31 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 31 October 2007 16:42, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Another thing that worries me a bit is projects coming in with a large (N=more than 3 or 5?) number of committers from the same organization, especially people who have no previous Apache or open source committer experience. I

Re: Diversity requirement

2007-10-31 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 31 October 2007 12:30, Matt Hogstrom wrote: I know on Geronimo, and i suspect other projects as well,   that there have been many times that people that worked for the same   company voted differently so I don't think its totally pointless but I   understand the concern. I would

Re: Diversity requirement

2007-10-31 Thread Paul Fremantle
Another thing that worries me a bit is projects coming in with a large (N=more than 3 or 5?) number of committers from the same organization, especially people who have no previous Apache or open source committer experience. Do we want to set a limit on N, to give the project more chances to

Re: Diversity requirement

2007-10-31 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 10/31/07, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...if we explicitly try to *limit* participation in a project then we are doing two things: 1. Discouraging involvement - the opposite of the aim of the incubator 2. Ruling out meritocracy - making it harder for some people to become

Re: [Proposal Draft]BlueSky-Wish to ADD

2007-10-31 Thread Ting Peng
Hi, I am really sorry. Our server is currently down. We will make it work as soon as possible. On Oct 31, 2007 9:04 AM, Carl Trieloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J Aaron Farr wrote: Ting Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, we are going to move our project BlueSky (Blue Sky Distance

Re: Diversity requirement

2007-10-31 Thread Paul Fremantle
Bertrand Sorry - I misunderstood your point. I would be very happy to limit the number of INITIAL committers! Yes +1. I just don't think that placing limits on new committers who are nominated by merit during incubation is right. Paul On 10/31/07, Bertrand Delacretaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Proposal Draft]BlueSky-Wish to ADD

2007-10-31 Thread Ting Peng
Thank you for your interest. I am sorry that our server is temporarily down. We will fix it as soon as possible. The license of the source is an open source one. It is Apache License , but we didn't sate it in the proposal. Currently, we are not paid programmer. Most of us are post-graduated

Re: [VOTE] RAT to enter incubator

2007-10-31 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Oct 30, 2007, at 6:03 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: i'd like to propose that the IPMC sponsors the entry of RAT into the incubator - robert --8-- --- [X] +1 Allow RAT to enter incubator,

Re: Diversity requirement

2007-10-31 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Oct 31, 2007, at 8:38 AM, Paul Fremantle wrote: Bertrand Sorry - I misunderstood your point. I would be very happy to limit the number of INITIAL committers! Yes +1. If it makes sense to do so, then +1. But to do so just to create a mistaken impression that the podling is, *at this

Re: [VOTE] RAT to enter incubator

2007-10-31 Thread Ross Gardler
+1 Allow RAT to enter incubator, sponsored by IPMC Ross - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] RAT to enter incubator

2007-10-31 Thread Eddie O'Neil
+1! Eddie On 10/31/07, Ross Gardler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 Allow RAT to enter incubator, sponsored by IPMC Ross - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Diversity requirement

2007-10-31 Thread Matthieu Riou
On 10/30/07, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthieu Riou wrote: On 10/30/07, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 30, 2007, at 11:58 PM, Matthieu Riou wrote: there are at least 3 legally independent committers and there is no single company or entity that is

Re: Diversity requirement

2007-10-31 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On 10/31/07, Paul Fremantle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...I just don't think that placing limits on new committers who are nominated by merit during incubation is right Totally agreed, committers nominated during incubation are subject to the normal ASF filters so there's no problem with

Re: [VOTE] RAT to enter incubator

2007-10-31 Thread Jean T. Anderson
+1 ! -jean On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:03:16 +, Robert Burrell Donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: i'd like to propose that the IPMC sponsors the entry of RAT into the incubator - robert --8- [ ] +1

Re: Diversity requirement

2007-10-31 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi, On Oct 31, 2007, at 1:42 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Another thing that worries me a bit is projects coming in with a large (N=more than 3 or 5?) number of committers from the same organization, especially people who have no previous Apache or open source committer experience. Do we

RE: Diversity requirement

2007-10-31 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Matthieu Riou wrote: IMHO 3 legally independent committers can be very hard requirement, especially for small sized project. How hard is it for users when the company paying them all abandons the project, and we don't have enough mass and diversity for it to continue? And that is just one

Re: Diversity requirement

2007-10-31 Thread ant elder
On 10/31/07, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 30, 2007, at 11:58 PM, Matthieu Riou wrote: there are at least 3 legally independent committers and there is no single company or entity that is vital to the success of the project What does legally independent mean? Not paid

Re: Diversity requirement

2007-10-31 Thread Matthieu Riou
On Oct 31, 2007 2:45 PM, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthieu Riou wrote: IMHO 3 legally independent committers can be very hard requirement, especially for small sized project. How hard is it for users when the company paying them all abandons the project, and we don't have

Re: Diversity requirement

2007-10-31 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thursday 01 November 2007 01:26, Craig L Russell wrote: And I certainly wouldn't want to see an arbitrary cutoff of   prospective Apache committers just because of their affiliation. Agree, especially if there has been a large set of folks working on the codebase that is on the way in. So,