Re: [VOTE] Accept Sqoop for Incubation

2011-06-08 Thread Julien Vermillard
+1 (binding), Agreeing with Chris, looks awesome ! On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:39 AM, arv...@cloudera.com arv...@cloudera.com wrote: As there are no active discussions on the [PROPOSAL] thread for a few days now, I will like to initiate the vote to accept Sqoop as an Apache Incubator project. The

Re: [VOTE] Flume to join the Incubator.

2011-06-08 Thread Ralph Goers
+1 (binding) Ralph On Jun 7, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Jonathan Hsieh wrote: Hi all, Since there have been no new conversations on this Flume [PROPOSAL] thread, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a link to the document in the

Introducing orcmid

2011-06-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Hi, My name is Dennis Hamilton. I am a semi-retired software system architect living in Seattle, Washington. My profile of profiles is already up at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/orcmid. The orcmid handle goes back to DecWars on a PDP-10 and the early CompuServe CB chat rooms. My

Re: [VOTE] Flume to join the Incubator.

2011-06-08 Thread Ashish
+1 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Jonathan Hsieh j...@cloudera.com wrote: Hi all, Since there have been no new conversations on this Flume [PROPOSAL] thread, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a link to the document in

Re: [VOTE] Flume to join the Incubator.

2011-06-08 Thread Ioannis Canellos
Here is my +1 (non binding) -- *Ioannis Canellos* * http://iocanel.blogspot.com Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC Apache ServiceMix http://servicemix.apache.org/ Committer *

Re: [VOTE] Accept Sqoop for Incubation

2011-06-08 Thread Ioannis Canellos
+1 (non binding) -- *Ioannis Canellos* * http://iocanel.blogspot.com Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC Apache ServiceMix http://servicemix.apache.org/ Committer *

Re: [VOTE] Accept Sqoop for Incubation

2011-06-08 Thread Nigel Daley
+1 -Nigel On Jun 7, 2011, at 8:39 PM, arv...@cloudera.com wrote: As there are no active discussions on the [PROPOSAL] thread for a few days now, I will like to initiate the vote to accept Sqoop as an Apache Incubator project. The proposal discussion thread and full text of the proposal can

Re: Fwd: Add incubator group to podling committers

2011-06-08 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Christian Grobmeier wrote on Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 09:24:45 +0200: Hello, I sent this to infra, but I have been told the incubator chair should handle this. Can the people below be added to the incubator group so they can update the ONGL website? I have hear our inc-chair is ooo (wow, that

Re: [VOTE] Accept Sqoop for Incubation

2011-06-08 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 (binding) LieGrue, strub --- On Wed, 6/8/11, Julien Vermillard jvermill...@gmail.com wrote: From: Julien Vermillard jvermill...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept Sqoop for Incubation To: general@incubator.apache.org Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2011, 5:59 AM +1 (binding), Agreeing with

Re: Fwd: Add incubator group to podling committers

2011-06-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Can the people below be added to the incubator group so they can update the ONGL website? I have hear our inc-chair is ooo (wow, that acronym got somehow hijiacked in this list) - do we have a deputy handling it? Thirty-six other people on the Incubator PMC have sufficient karma: Thanks.

Re: [VOTE] Flume to join the Incubator.

2011-06-08 Thread Tommaso Teofili
+1 (binding) Tommaso 2011/6/8 Jonathan Hsieh j...@cloudera.com Hi all, Since there have been no new conversations on this Flume [PROPOSAL] thread, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a link to the document in the wiki:

Re: [VOTE] Accept Sqoop for Incubation

2011-06-08 Thread Tommaso Teofili
+1 (binding) Tommaso 2011/6/8 arv...@cloudera.com arv...@cloudera.com As there are no active discussions on the [PROPOSAL] thread for a few days now, I will like to initiate the vote to accept Sqoop as an Apache Incubator project. The proposal discussion thread and full text of the proposal

Re: [VOTE] Accept Sqoop for Incubation

2011-06-08 Thread Edward J. Yoon
+1 (non-binding) On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Tommaso Teofili tommaso.teof...@gmail.com wrote: +1 (binding) Tommaso 2011/6/8 arv...@cloudera.com arv...@cloudera.com As there are no active discussions on the [PROPOSAL] thread for a few days now, I will like to initiate the vote to accept

Re: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: [...] their downstream code cannot be used.  Hence, the best outcome under the current licensing regime is for all core development to be done

Re: [VOTE] Flume to join the Incubator.

2011-06-08 Thread Leo Simons
+1 and welcome on board. cheers, Leo On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Jonathan Hsieh j...@cloudera.com wrote: [  ] +1 Accept Flume for incubation [  ] +0 Indifferent to Flume incubation [  ]  -1 Reject Flume for incubation ... = Flume - A Distributed Log Collection System = == Abstract ==

Re: [VOTE] Accept Sqoop for Incubation

2011-06-08 Thread Leo Simons
+1! cheers, Leo On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:39 AM, arv...@cloudera.com arv...@cloudera.com wrote: As there are no active discussions on the [PROPOSAL] thread for a few days now, I will like to initiate the vote to accept Sqoop as an Apache Incubator project. The proposal discussion thread and

Re: [VOTE] Accept Sqoop for Incubation

2011-06-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 (binding) cool project, if everything turns out well, I will surely need it in future. Go go go! ;-) On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:39 AM, arv...@cloudera.com arv...@cloudera.com wrote: As there are no active discussions on the [PROPOSAL] thread for a few days now, I will like to initiate the

Re: [VOTE] Accept Sqoop for Incubation

2011-06-08 Thread Olivier Lamy
+1 and welcome ! 2011/6/8 arv...@cloudera.com arv...@cloudera.com: As there are no active discussions on the [PROPOSAL] thread for a few days now, I will like to initiate the vote to accept Sqoop as an Apache Incubator project. The proposal discussion thread and full text of the proposal

Re: Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?

2011-06-08 Thread Yegor Kozlov
My name is Yegor Kozlov. I'm a Java developer, committer and a PMC in the Apache POI project. I've been hacking Microsoft Office formats since 2005 and got pretty solid knowledge of the internals of MS Excel and PowerPoint. I'm interested in bringing the ODF Toolkit to Apache and integrating this

Re: Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?

2011-06-08 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi, Von: Yegor Kozlov ye...@apache.org I'm interested in bringing the ODF Toolkit to Apache and integrating this API with Apache POI. With ODF, POI will become a universal API for Office documents covering most of popular office formats. As I see this the second time in an introduction

Re : Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?

2011-06-08 Thread eric b
Hello, My name is Eric Bachard. In the real life, I'm Professor of Applied Physics at UTBM (see [1]). In my spare time, I'm contributing to free software, as core developer. Contributing to OpenOffice.org since 2004, my skills are C ++ / C, objective C, shell and Perl. I know well

Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-08 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 08.06.2011 00:37, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: Greg Steingst...@gmail.com wrote on 06/07/2011 05:50:49 PM: Besides the content Oracle owns, it seems we could just ask the other owners to give the CWS's to the ASF. I mean, really... *somebody* out there holds the copyright. We just

Re: Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?

2011-06-08 Thread Richard S. Hall
On 06/08/2011 04:16 AM, Christian Lippka wrote: Moin Moin [1], my name is Christian Lippka and I work on the donnated code base since 1998 when I was hired by StarDivision which was then consumed by Sun and later bought by Oracle. Oracle is also my current employer. I am here as an

Re: A little OOo history

2011-06-08 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 07.06.2011 17:13, Danese Cooper wrote: It's a lot of code as well. When we launched it took a day (as in 24 hours) to build. I'd imagine that situation will have improved somewhat Indeed, fortunately. And before the 24 hours build is quoted out of the context that these number originates

Re: [VOTE] Flume to join the Incubator.

2011-06-08 Thread Niall Pemberton
+1 Niall On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:38 AM, Jonathan Hsieh j...@cloudera.com wrote: Hi all, Since there have been no new conversations on this Flume [PROPOSAL] thread, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal.  Here is a link to the document

Re: Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?

2011-06-08 Thread Yegor Kozlov
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Andre Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net wrote: Hi, Von: Yegor Kozlov ye...@apache.org I'm interested in bringing the ODF Toolkit to Apache and integrating this API with Apache POI. With ODF, POI will become a universal API for Office documents covering most

Re: [VOTE] Accept Sqoop for Incubation

2011-06-08 Thread Niall Pemberton
+1 Niall On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:39 AM, arv...@cloudera.com arv...@cloudera.com wrote: As there are no active discussions on the [PROPOSAL] thread for a few days now, I will like to initiate the vote to accept Sqoop as an Apache Incubator project. The proposal discussion thread and full text

Re: Re : Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?

2011-06-08 Thread Marcelo H.Fortino
El 08/06/11 10:43, eric b escribió: Hello, My name is Eric Bachard. In the real life, I'm Professor of Applied Physics at UTBM (see [1]). In my spare time, I'm contributing to free software, as core developer. Contributing to OpenOffice.org since 2004, my skills are C++ / C, objective C,

Re: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread Ian Lynch
On 8 June 2011 08:43, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: [...] their downstream code cannot be used. Hence, the best outcome

Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-08 Thread Steve Loughran
On 06/07/2011 06:08 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: It is Oracle's intent to provide to ASF the files needed to build OOo, taking into account licensing and ownership issues. This includes binary artifacts such as the OOo artwork and translation databases. I am following the discussions here closely, and

Re: [VOTE] Flume to join the Incubator.

2011-06-08 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny
On 6/8/11 6:38 AM, Jonathan Hsieh wrote: [X] +1 Accept Flume for incubation (binding) -- Regards, Cordialement, Emmanuel Lécharny www.iktek.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For

Re: [VOTE] Accept Sqoop for Incubation

2011-06-08 Thread Steve Loughran
On 06/08/2011 04:39 AM, arv...@cloudera.com wrote: As there are no active discussions on the [PROPOSAL] thread for a few days now, I will like to initiate the vote to accept Sqoop as an Apache Incubator project. The proposal discussion thread and full text of the proposal can be found at the

Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-08 Thread Sam Ruby
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:53 AM, Steve Loughran ste...@apache.org wrote: Now, the database with OOo is hsqldb, Java based, so assuming we want to run this on Apache Harmony, does the Java TCK becomes a test dependency of OOo? No - Sam Ruby

Re: [VOTE] Flume to join the Incubator.

2011-06-08 Thread Steve Loughran
On 06/08/2011 05:38 AM, Jonathan Hsieh wrote: Hi all, Since there have been no new conversations on this Flume [PROPOSAL] thread, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a link to the document in the wiki:

Re: [VOTE] Flume to join the Incubator.

2011-06-08 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
+1 (non-binding). On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Jonathan Hsieh j...@cloudera.com wrote: Hi all, Since there have been no new conversations on this Flume [PROPOSAL] thread, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a link to the

Re: [VOTE] Flume to join the Incubator.

2011-06-08 Thread Julien Vermillard
+1 (binding) and good luck :) On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Sanjiva Weerawarana sanj...@opensource.lk wrote: +1 (non-binding). On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Jonathan Hsieh j...@cloudera.com wrote: Hi all, Since there have been no new conversations on this Flume [PROPOSAL] thread, I'd

Re: Happy happy joy joy

2011-06-08 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 7, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Simos Xenitellis wrote: On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Guys, if we are going to argue over the mistakes of the pasts and the slights of the past, quite frankly, we aren't going to get very far. This is supposed to be a

Re: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 09:43:45AM +0200, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: [...] their downstream code cannot be used.  Hence, the best outcome under

Re: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Marvin, Le Wed, 8 Jun 2011 06:04:42 -0700, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com a écrit : On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 09:43:45AM +0200, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 6:51 AM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Noel J. Bergman

Re: [VOTE] Accept Sqoop for Incubation

2011-06-08 Thread Phillip Rhodes
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:39 PM, arv...@cloudera.com arv...@cloudera.comwrote: As there are no active discussions on the [PROPOSAL] thread for a few days now, I will like to initiate the vote to accept Sqoop as an Apache Incubator project. The proposal discussion thread and full text of the

Re: OpenOffice: Arguments and facts. Going ahead

2011-06-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
300.000 downloads/day * 180 MB = 5400 MB / 1024 = roundabout 53.000 Gigs. Source: http://marketing.openoffice.org/marketing_bouncer.html Presumably we would distrubute through the usual *mirror* system - so the load should mostly by on other peoples hardware, no? Leo Simons explained

Re: OOo mirroring (was: Re: A little OOo history)

2011-06-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello Leo, thanks for your interesting mail. It relaxes me and consider this one closed Cheers, Christian On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Leo Simons m...@leosimons.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:35 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: 30 downloads per day or per

Re: Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?

2011-06-08 Thread robert_weir
Andre Schnabel andre.schna...@gmx.net wrote on 06/08/2011 04:40:56 AM: Von: Yegor Kozlov ye...@apache.org I'm interested in bringing the ODF Toolkit to Apache and integrating this API with Apache POI. With ODF, POI will become a universal API for Office documents covering most of

Re: A little OOo history

2011-06-08 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Dear -Rob, all, 2011/6/7 robert_w...@us.ibm.com: [...] We should be able to check the math from another direction.  Microsoft claims something like 400 million Office users.  Studies looking at OOo install share show approximately 10%.  Pick some random number between 6 and 12 months.  

RE: Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?

2011-06-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I am pleased that we have been asked to introduce ourselves. I am excited by what I have been reading this morning. I consider myself to be handicapped as an American native-language English speaker. It is very easy to say something in a very complex way and not notice. With so many

RE: Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?

2011-06-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Hi Christian. What a great positive attitude. I'm excited to see you here. And moin moin to you too (it is 06:56 here in Seattle). I did not know the relationship with moien auf Deutsch. Now I know why Svante Schubert says it. Ciao, - Dennis -Original Message- From: Christian

Re: A little OOo history

2011-06-08 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Hi -Rob 2011/6/7 robert_w...@us.ibm.com: Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote on 06/07/2011 03:43:56 PM: robert_w...@us.ibm.com: Not surprisingly, you missed my point (or chose to ignore it). We at Honestly, your insult does surprise me. Apache don't think that money is evil, but we

Re: Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?

2011-06-08 Thread dsh
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:58 PM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: A sufficiently complex business application based on OpenOffice is going to involve document manipulations at both tiers.  For example, we recently (at IBM) made an insurance solution that involved using Symphony, extended with a

Re: A little OOo history

2011-06-08 Thread robert_weir
Manfred A. Reiter ma.rei...@gmail.com wrote on 06/08/2011 10:17:02 AM: 2011/6/7 robert_w...@us.ibm.com: [...] We should be able to check the math from another direction. Microsoft claims something like 400 million Office users. Studies looking at OOo install share show

Re: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/8/2011 10:06 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 08/06/2011 16:33, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: 1. find a proper coherence and relevance between Apache OOo LibreOffice on a technological level and on a distribution level 2. find a proper coherence with IBM's business requirements (Symphony). I

Re: This list is for how not why?

2011-06-08 Thread Ross Gardler
Khirano, I just noticed your mail never received a response. Sorry for that, reply online... Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos) On 6 Jun 2011, at 18:02, Kazunari Hirano khir...@gmail.com wrote: It has been familiar with us to file issues and comment on them.in the

Re: Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?

2011-06-08 Thread Ian Lynch
I think it would be good if the proposed committers who have not yet done so, could post a quick note to the list, to introduce yourself and your interest in this project. Think of this as an opportunity to introduce yourself to your future collaborators on Apache OpenOffice. Ian Lynch,

Re: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread Sam Ruby
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:17 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: On 6/8/2011 10:06 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 08/06/2011 16:33, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: 1. find a proper coherence and relevance between Apache OOo LibreOffice on a technological level and on  a distribution level

Re: Happy happy joy joy

2011-06-08 Thread Donald Whytock
Is that a copyleft swallow or an ALv2 swallow? On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Jun 7, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Simos Xenitellis wrote: On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Guys, if we are going to argue over the mistakes of

Re: Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?

2011-06-08 Thread robert_weir
dsh daniel.hais...@googlemail.com wrote on 06/08/2011 10:37:46 AM: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:58 PM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: A sufficiently complex business application based on OpenOffice is going to involve document manipulations at both tiers. For example, we recently (at IBM)

Re: Happy happy joy joy

2011-06-08 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Is that a copyleft swallow or an ALv2 swallow? No definitive indicator for the latter, but if it consumes parts of the other, then it must be the former ... -- Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest

Re: [VOTE] Flume to join the Incubator.

2011-06-08 Thread Tom White
+1 Tom On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Jonathan Hsieh j...@cloudera.com wrote: Hi all, Since there have been no new conversations on this Flume [PROPOSAL] thread, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal.  Here is a link to the document in

RE: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Ian Lynch wrote: It's no good saying if this or if that because we are where we are. If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle :-). Exactly. This is really the crux of all the discussions. Is it better to maximise the development resource through cooperation or is it better to have two

RE: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Marvin Humphrey wrote: The code bases are already divergent and it would be very difficult to reconcile them. To make Apache OOo upstream from LO would mean one of two things OK, let's clarify for sensibility: Apache would be upstream (licensing acting as a diode), but not THE upstream. As

Re: Happy happy joy joy

2011-06-08 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 6/8/2011 11:12 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Is that a copyleft swallow or an ALv2 swallow? No definitive indicator for the latter, but if it consumes parts of the other, then it must be the former ... I believe the

Re: This list is for how not why?

2011-06-08 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:27, Ross Gardler rgard...@apache.org wrote: Khirano, I just noticed your mail never received a response. Sorry for that, reply online... Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos) On 6 Jun 2011, at 18:02, Kazunari Hirano khir...@gmail.com wrote: It

Dcument automation with ODF (was Re: Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?)

2011-06-08 Thread robert_weir
dsh daniel.hais...@googlemail.com wrote on 06/08/2011 12:15:52 PM: Of course we had been using ODFDOM but the issue is how do you get ODF transformed accordingly to other formats such as RTF, AFP or PDF and make those formats look consistent with what you would get if doing the

Re: Fwd: Add incubator group to podling committers

2011-06-08 Thread sebb
On 8 June 2011 07:47, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Can the people below be added to the incubator group so they can update the ONGL website? I have hear our inc-chair is ooo (wow, that acronym got somehow hijiacked in this list) - do we have a deputy handling it?

Re: Upstream/Downstream (was OpenOffice LibreOffice)

2011-06-08 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, can we please just end this futile discussion? I agree, that water flows one direction only. But there needs to be water first to flow in any direction. If there will be enough to establish a flow, can only be seen, once the podling is in place. The risk estimation (will the podling run

Re: Dcument automation with ODF (was Re: Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?)

2011-06-08 Thread dsh
Actually I evaluated XSL-FO rendering engines quite excessively including Apache FOP. At that point in time (2009) Apache FOP still had performance issues in scenarios where you would generate thousands of business correspondence documents to be sent to clients on a daily basis. In the end we

Re: [VOTE] Accept Sqoop for Incubation

2011-06-08 Thread Eric Sammer
+1 On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Tom White tomwh...@apache.org wrote: +1 Tom On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:39 PM, arv...@cloudera.com arv...@cloudera.com wrote: As there are no active discussions on the [PROPOSAL] thread for a few days now, I will like to initiate the vote to accept Sqoop

Re: [VOTE] Flume to join the Incubator.

2011-06-08 Thread Eric Sammer
+1 On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Jonathan Hsieh j...@cloudera.com wrote: Hi all, Since there have been no new conversations on this Flume [PROPOSAL] thread, I'd like to call a vote. At the end of this mail, I've put a copy of the current proposal. Here is a link to the document in the

Re: Document automation with ODF (was Re: Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?)

2011-06-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Of course we had been using ODFDOM but the issue is how do you get ODF transformed accordingly to other formats such as RTF, AFP or PDF and make those formats look consistent with what you would get if doing the transformation natively during design time in OO or Symphony. I think your

RE: Add incubator group to podling committers

2011-06-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Christian Grobmeier wrote: I sent this to infra, but I have been told the incubator chair should handle this. I've made the changes via the command line interface. I wish there were some consistency on this when accounts are setup, but that's something we can discuss with infra. Oft-times

Re: Add incubator group to podling committers

2011-06-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I sent this to infra, but I have been told the incubator chair should handle this. I've made the changes via the command line interface. Thank you very much Noel! I have hear our inc-chair is ooo Out of Office?  Naw.  As long as I have decent Internet access (and no firewall keeping me

Re: Re-Introduction

2011-06-08 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/6/7 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com: On 7 June 2011 16:27, Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/6/7 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com: On 7 June 2011 16:08, Volker Merschmann merschm...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: A lot of bodies, a lot of money, and a source-dump release.

2011-06-08 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Hello, Niall, On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 10:11:02AM +0100, Niall Pemberton wrote: If you're right about the costs, they not going to hit from day one - as the initial effort will be in building the community and building something that can be released and very little needed in terms of end users

RE: Add incubator group to podling committers

2011-06-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Christian Grobmeier wrote: Out of Office? Naw. As long as I have decent Internet access (and no firewall keeping me from SSH), I'm in the office. And I was even pretty sure somebody said you were on honeymoon - No, we actually haven't had time for other than a couple of get-away

Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal

2011-06-08 Thread André Schnabel
Hi, I almost forgot about that, as it is not a summit but may be the earliest date for a meeting. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/DE/QAWochenende2011 So if some of you live rather close to Essen/Germany you may join us there. It would be helpfull to understand / speak German, as it is

Re: OpenOffice Proposal: Nominated Mentors

2011-06-08 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:49 PM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote: This is for the proposal, the Nominated Mentors section. My observation, after seeing the topics that seem to be getting the most attention from the IPMC members on this list, is that in the the Podling we will want to pay special

Re: OpenOffice - Wiki - Required Resources - Subversion vs. Mercurial vs. Git

2011-06-08 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I say that the sooner one can move to uni-directional flows with the bi-directionals out in customization and adoption layers, if anywhere, the better.  It is difficult to conceive of any other way to get on top

Re: A little OOo history

2011-06-08 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote: We at Apache don't think that money is evil, but we also believe that seeing our code in wide use is more important than money. OpenOffice.org is important to the Developing World, some of whom will pay for convenience. I

RE: OpenOffice Proposal: Nominated Mentors

2011-06-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Robert Weir wrote: - Community development, due to the need to develop and coordinate/collaborate with current and anticipated downstream consumers of the project, as well as potentially forging bi-directional collaborations. we would benefit from having incubation mentors with noted

Res: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal

2011-06-08 Thread Jomar Silva
I finally had access to the edit function and updated the wiki. Thanks everyone for the support :) Best, Jomar -Original Message- From: Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:20:38 To: general@incubator.apache.orggeneral@incubator.apache.org Reply-To:

Re: OpenOffice Proposal: Nominated Mentors

2011-06-08 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 8, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Robert Weir wrote: - Community development, due to the need to develop and coordinate/collaborate with current and anticipated downstream consumers of the project, as well as potentially forging bi-directional collaborations. we would

Re: A little OOo history

2011-06-08 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.comwrote: Danese, 3) LOTS of people download OOo Like maybe 10% of the human population of the planet. And its a big file. Initially we engaged Akamai, but it quickly became too expensive. Serving up downloads of OOo

Openoffice.org

2011-06-08 Thread Jim Jagielski
The expectation, assumption and intent behind the grant was that Openoffice.org would also be granted. In many, many ways, this trademark is just as important, if not more so, than the actual code for the success of the podling. Have we rec'd the updated grant yet?

Re: Openoffice.org

2011-06-08 Thread Craig L Russell
Nothing else has been received from Oracle. You will be the third person to know. ;-) Craig On Jun 8, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: The expectation, assumption and intent behind the grant was that Openoffice.org would also be granted. In many, many ways, this trademark is just as

Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 07/06/2011 Andrew Rist wrote: We are trying to provide all of the Oracle owned content in the OOo repositories. As a longtime OpenOffice.org volunteer (mini-introduction: involved with the OpenOffice.org project since 2003, main contributions in QA, Localization and QA Tools, Italian

Re: A little OOo history

2011-06-08 Thread Jomar Silva (Cuca)
I just checked with my Brazilian friends involved with the BrOffice project in the past years, and it seems that all problems that we've had in the past with the OpenOffice.org trademark are now solved. Best, Jomar - To

Re: Request: Can proposed committers introduce themselves?

2011-06-08 Thread Cor Nouws
Richard S. Hall wrote (08-06-11 11:03) On 06/08/2011 04:16 AM, Christian Lippka wrote: Moin Moin [1], my name is Christian Lippka and I work on the donnated code base since 1998 [..] I just wanted to say that this is one of the best messages I've read throughout this entire ordeal. Thanks.

Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-08 Thread Andrew Rist
I'll quote my earlier answer [1] on that: Our approach is to start with the main open source code - stuff with clear provenance. The OOo extensions are more complex in terms of licensing and other issues, but this is certainly something to revisit at a later stage of the project.

Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Andrew Rist wrote: I'll quote my earlier answer [1] on that: Our approach is to start with the main open source code - stuff with clear provenance. The OOo extensions are more complex in terms of licensing and other issues, but this is certainly something to revisit at a later stage of the

OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Dave Fisher
I started looking around at the OOo website. I'm not sure if now is the time to bring this up, but at http://contributing.openoffice.org/donate.html there is a solicitation for funds via three processes. Here's what the page says: Your donation will go directly towards helping this project.

RE: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Dave Fisher wrote: Your donation will go directly towards helping this project. Some of the ways in which your funds might be used include: • Hiring independent developers to work with OpenOffice.org. • Paying for participation at trade shows and conferences. • Paying for

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Ian Lynch
On 8 June 2011 22:50, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: Your donation will go directly towards helping this project. Some of the ways in which your funds might be used include: • Hiring independent developers to work with OpenOffice.org. • Paying

RE: Add incubator group to podling committers

2011-06-08 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:n...@devtech.com] Sent: Thursday, 9 June 2011 3:51 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Add incubator group to podling committers Christian Grobmeier wrote: I sent this to infra, but I have been told the incubator

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 June 2011 22:50, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: Your donation will go directly towards helping this project. Some of the ways in which your funds might be used include: •

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Andy Brown
Simon Phipps wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Ian Lynchianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 June 2011 22:50, Noel J. Bergmann...@devtech.com wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: Your donation will go directly towards helping this project. Some of the ways in which your funds might be used

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Shane Curcuru
Indeed, the ASF has been consistent that monetary donations be made to the ASF as a whole, and we have not accepted targeted cash donations for specific projects in the past. And as a Foundation, we have not paid directly for development on our projects (although obviously we have a paid

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 8, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: I started looking around at the OOo website. I'm not sure if now is the time to bring this up, but at http://contributing.openoffice.org/donate.html there is a solicitation for funds via three processes. Here's what the page says: Your

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Andrew Rist
to a foundation independent of Oracle: Team OpenOffice.org e.V. searching for a more complete answer Oracle Email Signature Logo Andrew Rist | Interoperability Architect Oracle Corporate Architecture Group Redwood Shores, CA | 650.506.9847 On 6/8/2011 4:19 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jun 8,

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
http://www.teamopenoffice.de/ I believe it is at the disposal of the Community Council, so probably Louis could give a more complete answer. S. On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: to a foundation independent of Oracle: Team OpenOffice.org e.V.

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Andy Brown
Andrew Rist wrote: to a foundation independent of Oracle: Team OpenOffice.org e.V. searching for a more complete answer It would be interesting to find out if all funds received for OOo were accounted for since the fork. The e.V changed names and collects donations for LibreOffice,

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread robert_weir
Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote on 06/08/2011 06:44:35 PM: I was actually thinking of Freies Office Deutschland e.V. primarily, http://www.frodev.org/ Interesting. That happens to also be where TDF donations go: http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/ -Rob

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