+1 (binding)
Everything looks fine and the build worked for me. However, I do find it odd
that the online documentation references a binary distribution yet none is
present on the web site below.
On Jan 14, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Eric Yang wrote:
This is a reminder to vote Chukwa 0.5.0 release
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 12:37 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote:
Sam,
My personal perspective is that incubation shouldn't generally take more
than a year.
The problem is with small communities. What do you
Hi,
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
I accept there might be some poddlings where the mentors are AWOL but
most of the ones I know of the mentors are actually paying attention
but there is only so much mentors can do if the poddling isn't very
active.
On 15 January 2012 12:12, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
I accept there might be some poddlings where the mentors are AWOL but
most of the ones I know of the mentors are actually paying attention
but
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
I accept there might be some poddlings where the mentors are AWOL but
most of the ones I know of the mentors are actually paying attention
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:29 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com
wrote:
...As discussed during the Callback proposal phase [1], the podling
community wasn't too certain about the Callback name and thus
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:48 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
On a related matter, how is the rename being handled for the various
incubator data files, web-pages, mailing lists etc.?
We're still working on
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Stuart Monteith stuk...@stoo.me.uk wrote:
snip
I'll back up what Ant said - Robert and Ant have shown heroic patience as
mentors on this project. The situation will resolve itself one
Thank you for reviewing the release candidate
I'm not sure what the issue with the source distribution is: the
module web.resources.yui mentions the yahoo copyright in the notice
file and the bsd license is included.
I guess this should also be the case for the launchers and thus the
binary
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Richard Frovarp rfrov...@apache.org wrote:
snip
You say it isn't active enough for a TLP. My question is what constitutes
active enough?
Basically one that meets the criteria
It is good that someone finally explained their opinion of
a mentor's responsibility to the IPMC out in the open. Let
me disagree with you that mentors are not supposed to be put
in the position of judging whether or not a podling is actually
making progress or not. If mentors don't do that, who
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
It is good that someone finally explained their opinion of
a mentor's responsibility to the IPMC out in the open. Let
me disagree with you that mentors are not supposed to be put
in the position of judging whether or
Joe Schaefer wrote on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 08:48:02 -0800:
Why do we need these obscure notions to characterize a failed incubation
effort? Can't we be adults and say it simply didn't work out, no
harm no foul, best of luck in your future endeavors elsewhere?
I sure hope we aren't going to
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
Now to go back and answer Ant's question directly,
Sam, what you replied doesn't really answer my question directly. The
issue with the long term poddlings which I know about is not that
their reports are not read, they are
I don't see why. When you apply to a university you either
receive an acceptance letter or a letter of regret; we don't
have to make any other distinctions regarding our internal
reasons either. Simply part ways amicably and help them
thru the exit door, no matter if they were chronic policy
- Original Message -
From: Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Parking Projects [WAS Re: -1 on this months board report (was:
Small but otherwise happy podlings)]
On Sun,
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Parking Projects [WAS Re: -1 on this
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
It is good that someone finally explained their opinion of
a mentor's responsibility to the IPMC out in the open. Let
me disagree with you that mentors are not supposed to be put
in the position of judging whether or
- Original Message -
From: Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: Parking Projects [WAS Re: -1 on this months board report (was:
Small but otherwise happy podlings)]
On Sun,
- Original Message -
From: ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: Parking Projects [WAS Re: -1 on this months board report (was:
Small but otherwise happy podlings)]
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 4:48
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: Parking Projects [WAS Re: -1 on this
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: Parking Projects [WAS Re: -1 on this months board report (was:
True, but decisions can't be delegated to individuals,
only tasks. Robert conveniently blurs the two.
- Original Message -
From: Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:24
Hi,
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
Last time I looked, mentors were delegated this duty by the IPMC.
If not, let's go ahead and do that just to add clarity.
It's indeed pretty clearly documented already:
Relevant difference: when we reject a project we do that on public
lists, when you apply to a university the fact you did so is private.
Joe Schaefer wrote on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 09:03:45 -0800:
I don't see why. When you apply to a university you either
receive an acceptance letter or a
I think the email trail will be fairly clear one way
or the other, and hence still oppose adding more labels
to the situation.
- Original Message -
From: Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name
To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, January
I would appreciate it if the participants in this discussion would be
really clear about their views about several different podling
profiles.
a: A reasonably diverse group of 5-7 people start a podling. A year
later, they've made a release or two, but no one new has turned up.
Mentors attest to
You didn't annoy me Benson, I think you're spot on, +1.
Cheers,
Chris
On Jan 15, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:
I would appreciate it if the participants in this discussion would be
really clear about their views about several different podling
profiles.
a: A reasonably diverse
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:01 PM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
Now to go back and answer Ant's question directly,
Sam, what you replied doesn't really answer my question directly. The
issue with the long term
Hi Robert...
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Stuart Monteith stuk...@stoo.me.uk
wrote:
snip
I'll back up what Ant said -
I wish we could get past the whole idea that we are punishing
a podling by insisting that they take their work to say github
instead. They probably can keep the name since we have no interest
in it ourselves.
We maintain an open-door policy for new projects, and I think that
is a good thing that
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.comwrote:
It is good that someone finally explained their opinion of
a mentor's responsibility to the IPMC out in the open. Let
me disagree with you that mentors are not supposed to be put
in the position of judging whether or
Establish Whether Apache Creadur would be a Suitable Name
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URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-4
Project: Podling Suitable Names Search
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.namewrote:
Joe Schaefer wrote on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 08:48:02 -0800:
Why do we need these obscure notions to characterize a failed incubation
effort? Can't we be adults and say it simply didn't work out, no
harm no foul,
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com
wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com
To:
I'd like to suggest that whatever rules we come
up with are derived from actual cases we've seen
over our time here. Robert is not alone by any
stretch, he's just clueful enough to be willing
to be open and honestabout it.
I'd have no problems supporting a podling whose
mentors review their
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Robert Burrell Donkin updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-4:
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Searched for
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Robert Burrell Donkin updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-4:
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Searched for creadur using
+1
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Jan 15, 2012 6:18 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
I wish we could get past the whole idea that we are punishing
a podling by insisting that they take their work to say github
instead. They probably can keep
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Robert Burrell Donkin updated PODLINGNAMESEARCH-4:
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Robert Burrell Donkin commented on PODLINGNAMESEARCH-4:
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+1
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
+1
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Jan 15, 2012 6:18 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
I wish we could get past the whole idea that we are punishing
a podling
I don't speak welsh or german (beyond a few words), so I relied on
automated translations. Please review and jump in with comments if you
find any mistakes.
Robert
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin (Commented)
(JIRA) j...@apache.org wrote:
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On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 01:12:47PM +0100, Jukka Zitting wrote:
In the recent years we've spent a lot of time
focusing on procedural and legal details, while community building and
social dynamics haven't gotten much attention. Perhaps we should start
looking at how to build up that aspect of
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Christian Grobmeier commented on PODLINGNAMESEARCH-4:
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On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
+1
Voting to terminate a project through lack of success sends a very
clear message. Being 'terminated' is a very clear and public
punishment, both for Mentors and for the project.
IMO termination should be used only as a
The current status task related to trademarks doesn't play well with
the new trademark rules, and doesn't describe in detail how to go
about a search
I've done a couple of searches[2] and [3], plus an early draft of a guide [1]
I'd be great if people could take a look and dive in with
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Robert Burrell Donkin commented on PODLINGNAMESEARCH-4:
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On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Jakob Homan jgho...@apache.org wrote:
What are the mechanics for having two NOTICE/LICENSE
files for one release?
If you're using Maven and the Apache parent POM, you can put
Hi...
On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi,
What's the status of this effort?
I went through all the older-than-year podlings identified by Sam for
a quick (i.e. incomplete) review of the project status. See below for
my summary (S) and subjective
Other than the typo in the subject line of this email?
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 20:00:26 +:
I don't speak welsh or german (beyond a few words), so I relied on
automated translations. Please review and jump in with comments if you
find any mistakes.
Robert
On 15 January 2012 20:55, Robert Burrell Donkin
robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
+1
Voting to terminate a project through lack of success sends a very
clear message. Being 'terminated' is a very clear and public
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
+1
Excessive snippage violation.
Voting to terminate a project through lack of success sends a very
clear message. Being
Daniel Shahaf wrote:
Other than the typo in the subject line of this email?
:-) classic.
That actually might happen a bit. Oh well, this email thread
associates them.
Robert, thanks for your efforts. The new name is excellent.
-David
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at
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