Re: [DISCUSSION] Regular rotation PMC chair

2012-01-29 Thread Ralph Goers
On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:20 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Should the current chair be forced to resign I'm not going to make an issue of it. I didn't interpret this as directed at you but at what a new policy on regular elections of a PMC should be. Ralph

Re: [DISCUSSION] Regular rotation PMC chair

2012-01-29 Thread Ralph Goers
On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: There's always the perennial chat here and there about rotating the PMC chair on a regular basis. It's my understanding that other PMCs have adopted this policy and are quite happy with it. It's also my understanding that some in this

[names] Public Review

2012-01-29 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
The new documentation describing in more detail one way to check the suitability of the proposed name is just about ready for public review (at least, once the mirrors have sync'd) The aim is to be able to replace the outdated task in the status template with a link to good documentation consist

Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenNLP as a TLP

2012-01-29 Thread Mark Struberg
Hi! Jörn did update the status page, looks good now! Here is my +1 LieGrue, strub - Original Message - From: Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org; Jörn Kottmann kottm...@gmail.com; isa...@apache.org isa...@apache.org

Re: [names] Public Review

2012-01-29 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: The new documentation describing in more detail one way to check the suitability of the proposed name is just about ready for public review The URL is http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html

Re: [DISCUSSION] Regular rotation PMC chair

2012-01-29 Thread Ate Douma
On 01/29/2012 02:15 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: On 01/29/2012 02:15 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: There's always the perennial chat here and there about rotating the PMC chair on a regular basis. It's my understanding that other PMCs have adopted this policy and are quite happy with it. It's also

Re: [DISCUSSION] Regular rotation PMC chair

2012-01-29 Thread Ate Douma
On 01/29/2012 03:15 PM, Ate Douma wrote: On 01/29/2012 02:15 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: On 01/29/2012 02:15 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: There's always the perennial chat here and there about rotating the PMC chair on a regular basis. It's my understanding that other PMCs have adopted this policy

Re: [names] Public Review

2012-01-29 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: The new documentation describing in more detail one way to check the suitability of the proposed name is just about

Re: [DISCUSSION] Regular rotation PMC chair

2012-01-29 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On Jan 29, 2012, at 6:18 AM, Ate Douma wrote: FTR: as should be clear from my above response, I disagree with the topic of this discussion thread. This should be about Regular (re)election of the PMC Chair. Regular rotation IMO would be unwise and undesirable. Good point. I share the

Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair

2012-01-29 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 1/29/2012 12:11 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I intend to nominate Noel J. Bergman but would like to see the community come to a consensus about the rotation of the chair. (Dibs on Noel) :) If this goes to a nominations and a ballot, isn't that implicit that we've agreed to rotate the

Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair

2012-01-29 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On Jan 29, 2012, at 11:24 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 1/29/2012 12:11 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I intend to nominate Noel J. Bergman but would like to see the community come to a consensus about the rotation of the chair. (Dibs on Noel) :) If this goes to a nominations and a

Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair

2012-01-29 Thread Benson Margulies
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2012, at 11:24 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: On 1/29/2012 12:11 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I intend to nominate Noel J. Bergman but would like to see the community come to a consensus about the

Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair

2012-01-29 Thread Benson Margulies
I'd like to nominate Noel to continue as chair. Noel hasn't resigned, and we don't have a consensus on rotation. So I think any vote we hold to recommend a chair to the board should include the option of his sticking in place unless he chooses to remove himself from the running.

Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair

2012-01-29 Thread Deepal jayasinghe
If he has not resigned, why do we have this vote (or why started this vote) ? forcing him to resign ? Deepal I'd like to nominate Noel to continue as chair. Noel hasn't resigned, and we don't have a consensus on rotation. So I think any vote we hold to recommend a chair to the board should

Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair

2012-01-29 Thread Ralph Goers
On Jan 29, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Deepal jayasinghe wrote: If he has not resigned, why do we have this vote (or why started this vote) ? forcing him to resign ? Because it is very poor practice, IMO, to just keep the same PMC chair in place forever without giving others the opportunity. This

Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair

2012-01-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Deepal jayasinghe wrote: If he has not resigned, why do we have this vote (or why started this vote) ? forcing him to resign ? Because it is very poor practice, IMO, to just keep the

Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair

2012-01-29 Thread Benson Margulies
+1 But shouldn't we agree on a rotationi/reelection before we do the nominations? Christian, I hate to repeat myself, but could I direct your attention to my recent message? If you think that a rotation policy should come first, start a thread proposing a rotation policy, and we can all leave

Re: [DISCUSSION] Regular rotation PMC chair

2012-01-29 Thread Benson Margulies
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2012, at 6:18 AM, Ate Douma wrote: FTR: as should be clear from my above response, I disagree with the topic of this discussion thread. This should be about Regular (re)election of the PMC Chair.

Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair

2012-01-29 Thread Deepal jayasinghe
On 1/29/2012 3:09 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: +1 But shouldn't we agree on a rotationi/reelection before we do the nominations? Christian, I hate to repeat myself, but could I direct your attention to my recent message? If you think that a rotation policy should come first, start a thread

Re: [DISCUSSION] Regular rotation PMC chair

2012-01-29 Thread Ralph Goers
On Jan 29, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2012, at 6:18 AM, Ate Douma wrote: FTR: as should be clear from my above response, I disagree with the topic of this discussion thread. This

Re: [DISCUSSION] Regular rotation PMC chair

2012-01-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2012, at 6:18 AM, Ate Douma wrote: FTR: as should be clear from my

Re: [DISCUSSION] Regular rotation PMC chair

2012-01-29 Thread Ate Douma
On 01/29/2012 09:37 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: On Jan 29, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Alan D. Cabreral...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2012, at 6:18 AM, Ate Douma wrote: FTR: as should be clear from my above response, I disagree with the

Re: [names] Public Review

2012-01-29 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: Please note that I didn't invent this process. I would have preferred something much simpler. I just documented the recommendations of the brand team. Was this a recommendation or a requirement?

Re: list of mentors: accumulo, chukwa, s4

2012-01-29 Thread David Crossley
Alan D. Cabrera wrote: Not sure that I understand your statement. The site was updated, no? This page: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html is generated from site-author/podlings.xml file. So the mentor entries in that file need to change. Then type 'ant' as normal to update the

Re: [names] Public Review

2012-01-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Jukka Zitting wrote on Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 23:47:38 +0100: Hi, On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 11:22 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin robertburrelldon...@gmail.com wrote: Please note that I didn't invent this process. I would have preferred something much simpler. I just documented the recommendations