Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-16 Thread Isuru Haththotuwa
+1 (non-binding) On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: Please don't apologize for a change that is proper and Right. In fact, when you look at the *actual* change, it is awesome. It is a clear benefit for the podling and project, and a demonstration of WSO2's

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-16 Thread Alexei Fedotov
Let me add that a TLP sometimes get confused when it faces a problem. :-) Why these problem solving superheroes should limit themselves to the incubator? 15.06.2013 19:53 пользователь Alan Cabrera a...@toolazydogs.com написал: Problem: podlings are confused on where to go when there's a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Mandatory podling exit interviews

2013-06-16 Thread Alexei Fedotov
I believe a set of automatically generated monthly metrics including a number of commits, total number of letters to the project mail list and number of mentor letters to the list will give a good picture which projects experience which problems. 15.06.2013 19:48 пользователь Alan Cabrera

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-16 Thread Ross Gardler
Good point. For non-incubator problems they shouldn't limit themselves to the incubator. They should be (and are) on the relevant committees. For me the ombudsmen would be the people that speak for the incubation process and point those suffering from ISSUE 01 in the right direction. Again I

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-16 Thread Olivier Lamy
+1 (binding) 2013/6/15 Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com: I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1]. I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos project to enter the incubator as a standard podling under the existing incubation policy. The

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-16 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jun 14, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1]. I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos project to enter the incubator as a standard podling under the existing incubation

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-16 Thread Lahiru Sandaruwan
+1 (non-binding) On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Jun 14, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1]. I want to clarify that this vote is for the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Mandatory podling exit interviews

2013-06-16 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: I'm not keen on this one. I don't like surveys and I don't like mandatory activities for volunteers. Yet, Apache does have mandatory reporting for podlings and TLPs. It's not like this is particularly onerous. (Note, I read the proposal as

[DISCUSS] PodlingBillOfRights

2013-06-16 Thread Joe Schaefer
Since I realize that most of you can't be bothered to look at the wiki page I created ;-), I'll go ahead and post the current content here for commentary.  I hope the bulk of it is non-controversial, though some of it may not belong on the page...

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-16 Thread Milinda Pathirage
+1 (non-binding) Thanks Milinda On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan lahi...@wso2.com wrote: +1 (non-binding) On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: On Jun 14, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: I would

[ANNOUNCE] Eric Tschetter is a new committer for Apache Curator

2013-06-16 Thread Jordan Zimmerman
The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache Curator has asked Eric Tschetter to become a committer and we are pleased to announce that he has accepted. Eric Tschetter is the lead architect of Druid, Metamarkets' distributed, in-memory database. He held senior engineering positions at

Re: [DISCUSS] PodlingBillOfRights

2013-06-16 Thread Upayavira
FWIW, I read it, and liked it. I would support something like this in terms of making it clearer what we are promising to podlings. I guess a question that it would be worth clarifying - what happens to a perfectly reasonable podling who's mentors resign/go awol, when the Incubator PMC cannot

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-16 Thread Alan Cabrera
On Jun 15, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: This is a suggestion that has come up in the past, and the typical counter-argument is that this is something the chair needs to provide themselves. Sent from my iPhone The usual reason for an ombudsman is to

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-16 Thread Joe Schaefer
Yeah I get that, but I'm wondering what sort of power we'd impart to the position besides information gathering.  It might make an interesting complementary position to the chair that's more directly focused on the Incubator as it presents itself to podlings, which is something we recently

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-16 Thread Alan Cabrera
I think that it would be a great idea to have an ASF wide ombudsman instead. There's been a few times where I've been personally asked to watch the goings on in another project by a committer, or ASF member, to provide an outside opinion as to what's going on, only to receive the ire of the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-16 Thread Alan Cabrera
Not a lot of power. Just a designated safe person to bring issues up with. I trust the relevant, empowered, parties in the ASF to work with the ombudsman to resolve the issues in a confidential safe manner. Regards, Alan On Jun 16, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Eric Tschetter is a new committer for Apache Curator

2013-06-16 Thread Joe Stein
Yeah! Congrats Eric!!! A fantastic library and great addition to keeping it awesome! On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Jordan Zimmerman randg...@apache.orgwrote: The Project Management Committee (PMC) for Apache Curator has asked Eric Tschetter to become a committer and we are pleased to

[VOTE] Release Apache jclouds 1.6.1-incubating, RC3

2013-06-16 Thread Andrew Bayer
Hello, This is the third release candidate for Apache jclouds 1.6.1-incubating, the first jclouds release at Apache. This is the IPMC vote. The PPMC vote passed, with three +1s from mentors (David Nalley, Olivier Lamy, and Suresh Marru). It fixes the following issues:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-16 Thread Alex Harui
On 6/16/13 10:36 AM, Alan Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote: On Jun 15, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: This is a suggestion that has come up in the past, and the typical counter-argument is that this is something the chair needs to provide themselves.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-16 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: This argument reminds me of the current debate in Congress about whether or not military sex offense reporting should remain within the chain of command. Proponents argue that it's hard to hold commanders

Re: [PROPOSAL] Creation of the Incubator Ombudsman

2013-06-16 Thread Joseph Schaefer
I'll grant you that it is an imperfect analogy, but I have no idea why you continue to make such a fuss about things we've all come to accept about roles and responsibilities of a chair. Nobody is questioning the traditional role you seek for yourself, and you can take comfort in the idea that

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ODF Toolkit 0.6-incubating(RC6)

2013-06-16 Thread Florian Hopf
Hi, the voting period has passed but we had another IPMC +1 from our mentor Nick Burch on odf-dev. Our other mentor Yegor seems to be pretty busy currently so it would be great if somebody else could have a look at the release candidate. Regards Florian On 06.06.2013 07:43, Florian Hopf

Re: [DISCUSS] PodlingBillOfRights

2013-06-16 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:16 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: Since I realize that most of you can't be bothered to look at the wiki page I created ;-), I'll go ahead and post the current content here for commentary. I hope the bulk of it is non-controversial, though some of it

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

2013-06-16 Thread Samisa Abeysinghe
+1 (non-binding) On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Milinda Pathirage milinda.pathir...@gmail.com wrote: +1 (non-binding) Thanks Milinda On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Lahiru Sandaruwan lahi...@wso2.com wrote: +1 (non-binding) On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Jim Jagielski