Re: [VOTE] IoTDB incubation proposal

2018-11-06 Thread hxd
I found the problem. Sorry for the bad format. I change another email client application and fix it now. Please read the new vote on another email, and reply the new email for vote. Sorry about that again. Thanks, Xiangdong Huang. > 在 2018年11月7日,下午3:45,Justin Mclean 写道: > > Hi, > >

[Vote] call a vote for IoTDB incubation proposal

2018-11-06 Thread hxd
Hi, Sorry for the previous mail with bad format. I'd like to call a VOTE to accept IoTDB project, a database for managing large amounts of time series data from IoT sensors in industrial applications, into the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is available on the wiki:

Re: [VOTE] IoTDB incubation proposal

2018-11-06 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Not sure about other people’s email reader but the formatting got a bit messed up for me. Here’s a link to the proposal: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IoTDBProposal Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

[VOTE] IoTDB incubation proposal

2018-11-06 Thread Xiangdong Huang
Hi, I'd like to call a VOTE to accept IoTDB project, a database for managing large amounts of time series data from IoT sensors in industrial applications, into the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is available on the wiki: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IoTDBProposaland it is also

Re: [VOTE] Sharding-Sphere incubation proposal

2018-11-06 Thread vintagewang
+1 (non-binding) XIAORUI Wang zhangli...@apache.org 于2018年11月7日 周三09:30写道: > +1 (non-binding) > > Thanks, > John(Zhang Liang) from Sharding-Sphere > > Bruno Mahé 于2018年11月7日周三 上午1:37写道: > > > +1 (non-binding) > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bruno > > > > On 11/5/18 10:41 PM, Roman Shaposhnik

Re: [VOTE] Sharding-Sphere incubation proposal

2018-11-06 Thread zhangli...@apache.org
+1 (non-binding) Thanks, John(Zhang Liang) from Sharding-Sphere Bruno Mahé 于2018年11月7日周三 上午1:37写道: > +1 (non-binding) > > > Thanks, > > Bruno > > On 11/5/18 10:41 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > Hi! > > > > on behalf of Sharding-Sphere community, I'd like to call > > a VOTE to accept it into

Re: How to review so-called "binary releases"?

2018-11-06 Thread Daniel Shahaf
CC += legal-discuss@ since this really isn't an incubator-specific topic any more. The context is precompiled binary artifacts on https://www.apache.org/dist/. David Nalley wrote on Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 17:06:50 -0500: > So let's assume a PMC (or PPMC) goes through the same process with >

Re: How to review so-called "binary releases"?

2018-11-06 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 9:39 PM Greg Stein wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 12:25 PM Julian Hyde wrote: > > > Jim, you’re re-iterating the premise of my question. In the context of my > > question, it doesn’t matter what these things are called. But we need to > > know how reviewers are to

Re: Draft email to member list to try and recruit some new mentors

2018-11-06 Thread justin
Hi, And sent, looking forward to some responses. Thanks, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Some early stage questions

2018-11-06 Thread Luciano Resende
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:05 PM Jacques Basaldúa wrote: > > > I have been working really hard on the documentation in the last two months > and I am almost done. The current public documentation is very incomplete. > Please, allow me to share it with you when I merge the new version, as >

RE: Some early stage questions

2018-11-06 Thread Jacques Basaldúa
Hi Dave, Nick and everyone, Thank you very much for the quick answer. The original project was built by a team and released under an Apache License. As originally designed, it has no activity now. For the moment, I am alone in the pivoting the code released into a new idea. I am an original

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-06 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
I agree. This is a policy for the IPMC to determine and I think this will increase inclusion. We need mentors and of all types. +1 -- Kevin A. McGrail VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-06 Thread Kenneth Knowles
I like this. I had the (apparently accurate) impression that ASF membership was the usual route to podling mentorship. I'm very interested in mentorship generally and ways I can help out ASF - so they might someday intersect in the formal role of podling mentor. It is nice to see a path that is

Re: Champion Role is Only to Get a Podling Started

2018-11-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 11:25 AM Dave Fisher wrote: > > Hi Everyone, but especially mentors. > > I saw this email from a mentor on the Airflow dev list: [1] > > "The big list that *has* to be filled out and correct is here: > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/airflow.html >

Re: [VOTE] Sharding-Sphere incubation proposal

2018-11-06 Thread Bruno Mahé
+1 (non-binding) Thanks, Bruno On 11/5/18 10:41 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: Hi! on behalf of Sharding-Sphere community, I'd like to call a VOTE to accept it into the Apache Incubator. The full proposal is available on the wiki: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ShardingSphereProposal

Re: [VOTE] Sharding-Sphere incubation proposal

2018-11-06 Thread Matt Sicker
+1 (binding) On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 at 06:38, Willem Jiang wrote: > +1 (binding) > > Willem Jiang > > Twitter: willemjiang > Weibo: 姜宁willem > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:41 PM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > on behalf of Sharding-Sphere community, I'd like to call > > a VOTE to accept

Re: Restarting an IPMC?

2018-11-06 Thread Luciano Resende
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:26 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > Good to see that the honest (stark even) podling report got several people > expressing interest in the project. > > > 1. Is there anyone here on this list, willing to contribute as > > Committer/PPMC or even as Mentor? > > I’m

Re: [VOTE] Sharding-Sphere incubation proposal

2018-11-06 Thread Willem Jiang
+1 (binding) Willem Jiang Twitter: willemjiang Weibo: 姜宁willem On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 2:41 PM Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > Hi! > > on behalf of Sharding-Sphere community, I'd like to call > a VOTE to accept it into the Apache Incubator. The full > proposal is available on the wiki: >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-06 Thread Shane Curcuru
Great ideas, thanks Justin! Justin Mclean wrote on 11/6/18 3:20 AM: > Hi, > > I looked at the board resolution for the creation of the IPMC [1] and it says > nothing about how IPMC members should be added so from that I take it that > the IPMC can decide how it wants to do that. The IPMC is a

Re: Voting in new IPMC members

2018-11-06 Thread justin
Hi, For instance [1] which states: "For committership, that is typical. Most PMCs allow a veto for adding new members to the PMC.” Not to single an individual out but that was the shortest concise statement I could fine. (But given it was 2013 their views may of changed since then). Justin

Re: Voting in new IPMC members

2018-11-06 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, > That's not correct, its not "no -1s" - quoting [2]: > >> Consensus approval' refers to a vote (sense 1) which has completed with at >> least three >> binding +1 votes and no vetos. > > It says "no vetos", not "no -1s" > > And as per [0] vetoes only apply to code changes, so that

Re: Voting in new IPMC members

2018-11-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:35 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > I think some of this is confusion between what consensus means and > consensus voting mean (or more correctly consensus approval) [2] (i.e. 3+1s > and no -1’s.) That's not correct, its not "no -1s" - quoting [2]: > Consensus approval'

Re: Restarting an IPMC?

2018-11-06 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Well I guess then I'll simply step up as third mentor on Edgent. > Do I formally have to do anything for this? Ask the PPMC if they are willing to take you on as a mentor would be the best way. Thanks, Justin - To

Re: [PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-06 Thread Sheng Wu
Hi Justin Very interesting proposal. And I like it, also willing to request for that :) >From my experience, several projects have invited me or involved me in, such >as Zipkin(Incubating) and IoTDB(In Incubator discussion). But because I can't >be podling project mentor, based on Apache

Re: Voting in new IPMC members

2018-11-06 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > To me the ultimate reference is > https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html - decisions are made by > consensus (*) which can be expressed by a majority vote with a least > three +1s, and vetoes are only valid for code changes. That page has a few issues IMO, for starters it not clear

Re: [VOTE] Sharding-Sphere incubation proposal

2018-11-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:02 AM Sheng Wu wrote: > ...The proposal and vote are here > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/88beebeec1aec8c32d331a3957b9eaec5aeee3e4e1bb23664731d048@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E Oops sorry, it landed in my spam folder for some reason - sorry for the

Re: [VOTE] Sharding-Sphere incubation proposal

2018-11-06 Thread Gosling Von
+1 Von Gosling > 在 2018年11月6日,下午2:41,Roman Shaposhnik 写道: > > Hi! > > on behalf of Sharding-Sphere community, I'd like to call > a VOTE to accept it into the Apache Incubator. The full > proposal is available on the wiki: >https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ShardingSphereProposal > and it

Re: [VOTE] Sharding-Sphere incubation proposal

2018-11-06 Thread Xin Wang
+1 no binding Sheng Wu 于2018年11月6日周二 下午5:09写道: > +1 no binding > > Sheng Wu > Apache SkyWalking > > On 2018/11/06 06:41:08, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > > Hi! > > > > on behalf of Sharding-Sphere community, I'd like to call > > a VOTE to accept it into the Apache Incubator. The full > > proposal

Re: [VOTE] Sharding-Sphere incubation proposal

2018-11-06 Thread Sheng Wu
+1 no binding Sheng Wu Apache SkyWalking On 2018/11/06 06:41:08, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > Hi! > > on behalf of Sharding-Sphere community, I'd like to call > a VOTE to accept it into the Apache Incubator. The full > proposal is available on the wiki: >

Re: [VOTE] Sharding-Sphere incubation proposal

2018-11-06 Thread Sheng Wu
Hi Bertrand The proposal and vote are here https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/88beebeec1aec8c32d331a3957b9eaec5aeee3e4e1bb23664731d048@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E I think just Justin's reply didn't include them. Sheng Wu On 2018/11/06 08:50:03, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue,

Re: Restarting an IPMC?

2018-11-06 Thread Christofer Dutz
Well I guess then I'll simply step up as third mentor on Edgent. Do I formally have to do anything for this? Chris Am 06.11.18, 09:26 schrieb "Justin Mclean" : Hi, Good to see that the honest (stark even) podling report got several people expressing interest in the project.

Re: [VOTE] Sharding-Sphere incubation proposal

2018-11-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 9:40 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > +1 (binding)... Where's the proposal that you are voting upon? In general, such votes link to a wiki proposal and copy it on the vote thread for clarity. -Bertrand - To

Re: Voting in new IPMC members

2018-11-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 9:39 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ...From my reading of policy and many many discussions on mailing lists, it > seem > that consensus approval not majority approval is the standard way... To me the ultimate reference is https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html -

Re: [VOTE] Sharding-Sphere incubation proposal

2018-11-06 Thread Justin Mclean
+1 (binding) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Voting in new IPMC members

2018-11-06 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I'm in favor of removing that clause and operating in the standard way with > majority votes. From my reading of policy and many many discussions on mailing lists, it seem that consensus approval not majority approval is the standard way. Although there is some confusion on this, and

Re: Restarting an IPMC?

2018-11-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 9:32 AM Christofer Dutz wrote: > ...So we could do the following ... I nominate some new PPMCs and start a > vote. > If not enough votes come in, I'll come back here asking for the IPMCs > assistance again I think that works and apparently you have two active mentors

Re: Restarting an IPMC?

2018-11-06 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi all, well that's the main problem ... I doubt that we would have enough PPMCs voting. I had addressed a security problem some time ago and didn't get a single response on the private list. So we could do the following ... I nominate some new PPMCs and start a vote. If not enough votes come

Re: Restarting an IPMC?

2018-11-06 Thread Christofer Dutz
UPS ... didn't mean the (I)PCM , but the (P)PMC ... Am 06.11.18, 09:18 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" : Hi all, as it seems and as I have reported in the last podling report, the Apache Edgent project had been suffering of one of the things that happen if you don’t have a diverse

Re: Restarting an IPMC?

2018-11-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Chris, On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 9:19 AM Christofer Dutz wrote: > ... 2. Is it possible to sort of reset a podling IPMC and start with a new > set of people?... I think the easiest is to have the existing PMC vote in new members. If that doesn't work, I think the votes of Incubator PMC

Re: Restarting an IPMC?

2018-11-06 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Good to see that the honest (stark even) podling report got several people expressing interest in the project. > 1. Is there anyone here on this list, willing to contribute as > Committer/PPMC or even as Mentor? I’m happy to continue as a mentor, the project currently has 2 mentors. If

[PROPOSAL] Changing requirements for IPMC

2018-11-06 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, I looked at the board resolution for the creation of the IPMC [1] and it says nothing about how IPMC members should be added so from that I take it that the IPMC can decide how it wants to do that. Currently the IPMC can vote people in (which is not so common) or an ASF member can request

Restarting an IPMC?

2018-11-06 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi all, as it seems and as I have reported in the last podling report, the Apache Edgent project had been suffering of one of the things that happen if you don’t have a diverse committer base. After IBM pulling out the Edgent contributors we are left effectively with only me. After mentioning

Re: [DISCUSS] Iceberg proposal for incubation

2018-11-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 7:04 PM Ryan Blue wrote: >... I'd like to start a discussion about moving Netflix's Iceberg project to > the incubator... Looks like a very interesting project! >...I can post it to the wiki as well if that's needed,... Yes please, it's good to have all proposals

Re: Voting in new IPMC members

2018-11-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:41 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > ..."Individuals may be nominated to join the IPMC after a vote which passes > with more than 3/4 of those voting.”... I didn't remember the discussion that led to that, and looking at it again I don't think it solves an actual problem -