[VOTE] [jira] Updated: (INCUBATOR-53) Remove references to escalation from Incubation Policy

2007-02-14 Thread Craig L Russell
Please vote to change Incubator Policy to remove escalate as a policy term meaning guaduate: [+1] apply the patch [-1] don't apply the patch Here's my +1 +1 Craig Begin forwarded message: From: Craig Russell (JIRA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: February 14, 2007 5:30:05 PM PST To:

Please review this patch

2007-02-13 Thread Craig L Russell
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-53 Thanks, Craig Craig Russell 456 Chesley Avenue Mountain View, CA 94040-4409 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Responsibilities of the PPMC

2007-02-13 Thread Craig L Russell
I'm working on a patch for https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ INCUBATOR-54. Before proposing a change to the web site, I'd like to have an email review the PPMC's role and responsibilities. Podling Project Management Committee (PPMC) While the Incubator Project Management Committee

Re: [discussion] Graduating a subproject

2007-02-11 Thread Craig L Russell
On Feb 11, 2007, at 9:27 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Martin van den Bemt wrote: According to the process defined in http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/ Incubation_Policy.html#Exiting+the+Incubator the Incubator needs to vote first and nod to the accepting PMC that the project is

Re: Migration, Escalation, and Graduation

2007-02-09 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Noel, On Feb 8, 2007, at 9:44 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Craig Russell asked: Henri gave definitions for two of the three. Examples of escalation would be raising an issue to the Incubator PMC or the ASF Board if you are having problems that can't be resolved by not going that route.

Migration, Escalation, and Graduation

2007-02-08 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi, I've seen all three of these terms used in the incubator web site. Is there an official term for the process of removing a podling from the incubator to its proper place in Apache? Do we want to standardize the terminology? If so, I'll volunteer to write JIRA issues to make the

(P)odling PMC

2007-02-08 Thread Craig L Russell
I'd like to see some clarification on the role of the PPMC and the process of managing the PPMC membership. I've looked for guidance in the web pages and it's not clear to me what to do to vote in a new PPMC member, and then what to do. For example, in Incubation_Policy.html, there is no

Re: Migration, Escalation, and Graduation

2007-02-08 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Henri, On Feb 8, 2007, at 4:23 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: On 2/8/07, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've seen all three of these terms used in the incubator web site. Is there an official term for the process of removing a podling from the incubator to its proper place

Re: [VOTE] Roller graduation

2007-02-06 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 Craig On Feb 6, 2007, at 7:07 AM, Dave wrote: OK, let's try this again. The Roller community believes that Roller is ready for graduation, as evidenced by this vote: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-roller-dev/ 200702.mbox/browser We would like to initiate a vote to

Re: Dormant/retired codebases

2006-12-27 Thread Craig L Russell
On Dec 27, 2006, at 10:28 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: phoenix.apache.org?\ Good one. Craig Yoav Shapira wrote: Hi, On 12/24/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually ... what if we were to establish an area under incubator/, which we need anyway for podlings that get

Re: Lucene4c

2006-12-24 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Tim, It's great that you're interested in Apache, and there are lots of ways you can participate. Sadly, the lucene4c project never quite got off the ground, and was closed for lack of activity in October 2006. You can find this from their incubator status page

Re: [VOTE] Incubate new podling, River (nee Braintree, nee..., nee Jini)

2006-12-21 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 (non-binding) I think it's great that Apache will adopt this great technology... Craig On Dec 20, 2006, at 7:46 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: It is with great relief and hope that I propose that the Apache Incubator PMC vote to incubate a new podling, to be known as River. You may be

Re: [VOTE WITHDRAWN] publish openjpa 0.9.6-incubating release

2006-11-27 Thread Craig L Russell
simple mechanism so that folks can tell which internal review version you are talking about. We just choose to do that by uploading each rebuild of the same artifact to a new directory. On 11/21/06, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I just don't like that changes to the bits based

Re: [VOTE][SECOND ATTEMPT] publish openjpa 0.9.6-incubating release

2006-11-27 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Marc, On Nov 27, 2006, at 6:38 PM, Marc Prud'hommeaux wrote: Robert- -- minor issues (fine by me to fix in trunk) -- the 'Exceptions as follows' section in LICENSE.txt is missing serp. i think, just a typo since the LICENSE is included with reference. serp is listed at

Re: [VOTE WITHDRAWN] publish openjpa 0.9.6-incubating release

2006-11-21 Thread Craig L Russell
Sorry, I just don't like that changes to the bits based on an internal review should change the name of the release. Craig On Nov 21, 2006, at 2:51 PM, Hiram Chirino wrote: To avoid those issue ActiveMQ tends to do a build of say ActiveMQ 4.1.0 and we drop it in a directory called

Re: [VOTE WITHDRAWN] publish openjpa 0.9.6-incubating release

2006-11-21 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Upayavira, On Nov 21, 2006, at 3:35 PM, Upayavira wrote: Patrick Linskey wrote: ...snipped... However, I *would* like clear guidance about what to do. Is this going to cause problems with incubator approval of the 0.9.6 vote that's currently running on the OpenJPA mailing list? In the

Re: Maven pom, groupId and version for incubating projects

2006-11-16 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Jason, On Nov 15, 2006, at 10:55 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote: On 15 Nov 06, at 8:34 PM 15 Nov 06, Craig L Russell wrote: Hate to quibble, but incubating is a gerund used as an adjective. ;-) I also think of alpha and beta as adjectives also, as in the alpha version, alpha being

Re: [Podlings] mailing list

2006-11-16 Thread Craig L Russell
On Nov 15, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Hi, since all committers at Apache are on the committers email list, all pmcs on pmc list,... , why not adding all committers on an incubation project to the general @ incubator list ? Would make sense to me, since most of those

Re: [VOTE] publish openjpa 0.9.6-incubating release

2006-11-16 Thread Craig L Russell
From my experience on the incubator list, this is probably the most complete critique that we will get. So I think we're done once Robert is happy. Craig On Nov 16, 2006, at 2:16 PM, Patrick Linskey wrote: Hi, Does anyone else have any showstopping concerns? It'd be good to know about

Re: [VOTE] publish openjpa 0.9.6-incubating release

2006-11-16 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Robert, On Nov 16, 2006, at 12:14 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 11/16/06, Marc Prud'hommeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenJPA incubator community voted on and has approved a proposal to release OpenJPA 0.9.6-incubating. Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy

Re: [DISCUSS] incubator voting process

2006-11-10 Thread Craig L Russell
On Nov 10, 2006, at 7:03 PM, Mike Kienenberger wrote: On 11/10/06, Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 6. Cayenne: Mentors:Jean Anderson, Brian McAllister, Bill Dudney Started:March 2006 Incomplete: Nothing Diverity: Unknown Releases: 1 All eight

Re: How to get a source OFBiz release WAS: [VOTE] OFBiz Test Snapshot Release: 4.0.0 TS5

2006-11-04 Thread Craig L Russell
Unless we change the name to open binary, I'm going to agree with Robert and Justin. Source releases are what we're about here. Craig On Nov 4, 2006, at 10:10 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 11/4/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the same way it's used for any other

Re: clarification on SF license and sandboxes

2006-11-04 Thread Craig L Russell
burrell donkin wrote: On 11/2/06, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Martin, Thanks for your comments. They seem to contradict what Henri is saying. Can we continue this discussion until we reach some conclusion? from a legal perspective: 5. Submission of Contributions. Unless You

Re: clarification on SF license and sandboxes

2006-11-01 Thread Craig L Russell
It's best practice to require that contributions be accompanied by the checkbox to grant the license. I haven't seen any official Apache policy guideline on this subject. Is the contributor willing to re-attach the file to the JIRA, this time with the checkbox ticked? That's the best way

Re: clarification on SF license and sandboxes

2006-11-01 Thread Craig L Russell
Given that there is a checkbox in JIRA, and the fact that this is confusing at least, could we get the checkbox removed, or the policy documented? Craig On Nov 1, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: On 11/1/06, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's best practice to require

Re: clarification on SF license and sandboxes

2006-11-01 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Martin, Thanks for your comments. They seem to contradict what Henri is saying. Can we continue this discussion until we reach some conclusion? Thanks, Craig On Nov 1, 2006, at 6:57 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: On 11/1/06, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given

Re: voting was Re: [PROPOSAL] Ivy

2006-10-30 Thread Craig L Russell
I wonder (out loud) if we might recommend to change the format of the [RESULT] [VOTE] tally to simply summarize the binding votes, just for completeness. Clearly, the people who need to know who the binding votes are already know it, and it doesn't strike folks quite in the face if they

Re: UPDATE - Re: [VOTE] Graduate Harmony to TLP status (pending board approval)

2006-10-25 Thread Craig L Russell
Congratulations on the board vote. +1 for graduation, and good luck. Craig On Oct 25, 2006, at 1:13 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: As noted in the vote email : Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Under the Incubator process, Harmony must have a destination prior to exiting incubation, which means the

Re: REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-12 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 (non-binding, but opinionated) Craig On 10/12/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based upon all of the discussion, I'll pose the following as what I hope is an agreeable solution: -- The Champion shall work with the incoming community to identify the

Re: [doc] How to add a PPMC member

2006-10-10 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Jean, Your suggestion looks sound to me. Craig On Oct 10, 2006, at 12:10 PM, Jean T. Anderson wrote: Given recent PPMC discussions on general@, it has been on my mind to add a section titled Voting in a new PPMC member to http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html Brian McCallister

Re: [doc] How to add a PPMC member

2006-10-10 Thread Craig L Russell
encumber Apache. Craig On Oct 10, 2006, at 2:16 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 10/10/06, Jean T. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/10/06, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jean, Your suggestion looks sound to me. +1 Some clarifications are needed on the PPMC page

Re: [VOTE] Approve the 2.0.1 release of Cayenne

2006-10-03 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Andrus, Congratulations on your release candidate. I was unable to retrieve your key B8AF90BF from the public key server pgp.mit.edu, which you used to sign the release. Have you had your key signed and uploaded it to a public server? Craig On Sep 30, 2006, at 9:09 AM, Andrus Adamchik

Re: [VOTE] Approve the 2.0.1 release of Cayenne

2006-10-03 Thread Craig L Russell
://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=Andrus+Adamchikop=index Andrus On Oct 3, 2006, at 11:20 AM, Craig L Russell wrote: Hi Andrus, Congratulations on your release candidate. I was unable to retrieve your key B8AF90BF from the public key server pgp.mit.edu, which you used to sign the release

Re: Podling Release Requirement (WAS: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Felix to TLP status)

2006-09-13 Thread Craig L Russell
On Sep 13, 2006, at 10:24 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 9/13/06, Alex Karasulu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J Aaron Farr wrote: On 9/13/06, Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/12/06, Niclas Hedhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Leo pointed out, 'codebase quality' is not a

Re: Preparing to release an incubator POM

2006-09-09 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Jeremy, On Sep 9, 2006, at 8:53 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: On Sep 8, 2006, at 7:23 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: Hi Jeremy, Thanks for doing this. I think it's great for podlings to get a leg up. I'd like to understand where this POM is documented so that podlings can use and understand

Re: Preparing to release an incubator POM

2006-09-08 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Jeremy, Thanks for doing this. I think it's great for podlings to get a leg up. I'd like to understand where this POM is documented so that podlings can use and understand it. Just a link to the incubator web page that tells podlings what they need to do to use it would let me see how

Re: [jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-43) [policy neutral] cut line which doesn't make much sense

2006-08-29 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 (non-binding) Craig On Aug 28, 2006, at 12:23 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin (JIRA) wrote: [policy neutral] cut line which doesn't make much sense --- Key: INCUBATOR-43 URL:

Re: [jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-42) [policy neutral] consistent use of term

2006-08-29 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 (non-binding) Craig On Aug 28, 2006, at 12:19 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin (JIRA) wrote: [policy neutral] consistent use of term --- Key: INCUBATOR-42 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ INCUBATOR-42

Information on setting up a jira for a new project

2006-08-29 Thread Craig L Russell
I've looked at the incubator pages and can't find guidance on how to set up a jira or bug reporting system for a new project. It's absent from the incubation/Incubation_Policy area, and the general "request project resources" doesn't seem to have any information either.If there's consensus on

Re: Main page broken links

2006-08-27 Thread Craig L Russell
I updated the page and updated the site. Waiting for the sync. Craig On Aug 27, 2006, at 2:29 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 8/26/06, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After the reorganization of the incubator site, the main page has at least three broken links: pThere

Re: [policy] incubating projects and maven repositories v1.0

2006-08-27 Thread Craig L Russell
On Aug 27, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, On 8/27/06, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was discussion that incubator repository would not be sync'd to the central repository but I don't really see much point in this. [...] Also someone may make an repository request

Main page broken links

2006-08-26 Thread Craig L Russell
After the reorganization of the incubator site, the main page has at least three broken links:pThere is a lot more detail available on 1. a href=""what      the incubator is responsible for/a and 2. a href=""how we      do that/a. Please see the menu on the left./p3. a href=""the [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [doc] first call for review for http://incubator.apache.org/guides/participation.html

2006-08-16 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi David, Upayavira, Thanks, I figured it out from the instructions on the site. After I updated the site it successfully rsync'd to the live site. And now you can see it too. Thanks, Craig On Aug 16, 2006, at 6:17 PM, David Crossley wrote: Upayavira wrote: Craig L Russell wrote: Ok

Re: Specifications as (part of) ASF projects (was RE: Too many licenses? Was: [vote] Accept Glasgow)

2006-08-15 Thread Craig L Russell
On Aug 15, 2006, at 6:57 AM, Alan Conway wrote: Idiotic question from complete Apache newbie: is the proposal that Apache should start hosting specs but would still host projects implementing foreign specs, or that Apache should stop hosting projects implementing non-Apache specs? I

Re: Specifications as (part of) ASF projects (was RE: Too many licenses? Was: [vote] Accept Glasgow)

2006-08-15 Thread Craig L Russell
On Aug 15, 2006, at 5:23 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Yoav Shapira wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: I would put forth a strawman that the Editor role is at least somewhat analogous to the Release Manager for code. there's a big difference: a release manager does not modify other people's work

Re: Jini : Separate Governance and Implementation Projects

2006-08-14 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Bob, On Aug 14, 2006, at 8:17 AM, Bob Scheifler wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: However, we do have a chance here to host the governance and spec process for JINI. Therefore, I'd like to propose that we create two podlings, one for JINI governance, and one for building the

Re: Specifications as (part of) ASF projects (was RE: Too many licenses? Was: [vote] Accept Glasgow)

2006-08-14 Thread Craig L Russell
On Aug 14, 2006, at 9:56 AM, Granqvist, Hans wrote: ... I would be in favor of such an approach. Honestly, I would vastly prefer to have Open Specifications managed under ASF processes than under the JCP, OASIS, etc. Yea, I think it could be a good idea. I agree. Just a few thoughts on

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-08-13 Thread Craig L Russell
On Aug 13, 2006, at 11:50 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Cliff Schmidt wrote: Just as I was posting the vote thread for the Glasgow project, I saw Noel had updated the new wiki page with a concern about the name collision with the old Sun codename Only because I hadn't seen Craig's e-mail

Re: Glasgow - new name proposal

2006-08-11 Thread Craig L Russell
need to come to agreement on how to do the CaPs. a.) Qpid b.) QPid c.) QPID I like a, then c. Carl. sophitia que wrote: I am +1 on the name. On 8/10/06, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 10, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Archit Shah wrote: +1 for Qpid or QPid or QPID. +1 I'd prefer

Re: Jini?

2006-08-10 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Bob, On Aug 10, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Bob Scheifler wrote: Jim Hurley wrote: Besides the 'name question' -- are there any other questions or issues associated with the JiniProposal that we could be discussing? Since resolution on the name question (so far) seems clear as mud :( let's try

Re: [doc] first call for review for http://incubator.apache.org/guides/participation.html

2006-08-10 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Robert, I like it. I fixed a few typos. I don't know how to actually publish the site, though... Craig On Aug 10, 2006, at 2:27 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/participation.html is currently a draft document. i think that it's strong enough to push

Re: [doc] first call for review for http://incubator.apache.org/guides/participation.html

2006-08-10 Thread Craig L Russell
Ok, I took the plunge and built the site. I checked in the updated participation.html page. Craig On Aug 10, 2006, at 2:27 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/participation.html is currently a draft document. i think that it's strong enough to push towards

Re: Glasgow - new name proposal

2006-08-10 Thread Craig L Russell
On Aug 10, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Archit Shah wrote: +1 for Qpid or QPid or QPID. +1 I'd prefer if the acronym expansion is left unspecified as well. Craig To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: IRC Channel?

2006-08-09 Thread Craig L Russell
Has anyone ever considered making IRC chats available (on some basis) as an Apache archive? Seems that Apache (myself included) doesn't like IRC so much because it is not available to those of us who because of time zone or other reasons can't attend. If it's added to an Apache archive, it

Re: IRC Channel?

2006-08-09 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi, On Aug 9, 2006, at 6:06 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Craig L Russell wrote: Has anyone ever considered making IRC chats available (on some basis) as an Apache archive? Seems that Apache (myself included) doesn't like IRC so much because it is not available to those of us who because

Re: Glasgow - new name proposal

2006-08-09 Thread Craig L Russell
URQPD. Craig On Aug 9, 2006, at 2:14 PM, Brian McCallister wrote: AMQPD -Brian On Aug 9, 2006, at 1:06 PM, Rafael Schloming wrote: How about Qpid? It could mean Queuing Protocol for Information Delivery or something like that. Carl Trieloff wrote: +1 for Kyma easy to say, read and

Re: Jini?

2006-08-09 Thread Craig L Russell
I'd like to point out that Apache does have tolerance for brand names coming in from the outside, in particular J-word projects from Sun. Java(TM) Data Objects a.k.a. JDO is an official Apache project [1]. JDO is not trademarked but the name is well-known in its space. The Apache JDO

Re: Glasgow naming: proposal

2006-08-07 Thread Craig L Russell
On Aug 7, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Kim van der Riet wrote: I have been somewhat surprised at the amount of debate surrounding the name of the proposed Glasgow project. Same here, and I've been on this alias for over a year. Most of the discussion earlier has been over infringement issues, not

Re: [VOTE] Accept Glasgow into Incubator

2006-08-03 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 (non-binding) from me. Craig On Aug 3, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Cliff Schmidt wrote: I believe all open questions about the Glasgow proposal (originally submitted as Blaze) have now been addressed enough to call a vote for accepting the project for incubation. Therefore, as the champion of this

Re: [VOTE][policy] policy neutral clean up for policy document, phase two

2006-07-31 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 (non-binding) for all three. I've commented on /INCUBATOR-39 but vote in favor regardless of the resolution. Craig On Jul 29, 2006, at 2:44 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: a few more changes that i think that policy neutral (please jump in if i am mistaken) i'm +1to all - robert

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-30 Thread Craig L Russell
On Jul 30, 2006, at 12:05 PM, Gwyn Evans wrote: On 30/07/06, Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/27/06, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can we take the code in the Apache incubator svn, build a release, and release it on sf.net (our previous host) without branding

Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-27 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Martijn, My email is spotty for some reason; I haven't seen much feedback for you on the alias. Here's my take: On Jul 27, 2006, at 7:04 AM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: Can we take the code in the Apache incubator svn, build a release, and release it on sf.net (our previous host) without

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-27 Thread Craig L Russell
I think of no associations with software projects when hearing Glasgow. Craig On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:48 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: On 7/27/06, Garrett Rooney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/27/06, Carl Trieloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Garrett Some of us spoke about this at lunch. As Glasgow

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-27 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Martin, For just a moment, I thought you were serious. JavaBeans Activation Framework, 1999. JavaBeans Drag and Drop, 1998. If Glasgow were really a software name to be worried about, I think we might have heard more of it in the last 6 years... Craig On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:48 PM,

Re: Blaze and Openness of Standards (was Re: [Proposal] Blaze)

2006-07-24 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Carl, On Jul 24, 2006, at 10:40 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote: The synapse ones are clearly software though... At this point I am not trying to argue to use or non-use of a name. Just understand how does Apache deals with this. The way Apache deals with this is that you get advice from

Re: [VOTE] [policy] document cleanup (part 1)

2006-07-23 Thread Craig L Russell
I've added comments to the JIRA issues and vote +1 (non-binding) to all the proposals. Craig On Jul 23, 2006, at 9:17 AM, robert burrell donkin wrote: try again with a better subject On 7/20/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've been working on tidying up the policy

Re: [VOTE] [UPDATE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-18 Thread Craig L Russell
On Jul 18, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Jim Jagielski wrote: Mladen Turk wrote: since some members thinks that insulting our fellows is actually a great joke, and something one should be proud off, I'm fine. Well, let me just say that once a project is within the incubator,

Site-author/guide/sites.xml

2006-07-13 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi,I volunteered to write a guide for incubator web sites, and created the attached xml file as a start. A few logistics questions:The file is in the incubator/trunk/site-author/guides/ directory as sites.xml. This is the location and name that Robert and I discussed at ApacheCon 2006. Is this

Re: [PROPOSAL] CeltiXfire Project

2006-07-12 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Jim, On Jul 5, 2006, at 5:42 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jul 3, 2006, at 6:45 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: Hi Dan, I have to agree that if an existing code base is migrated to Apache, it should not mean that all maintenance ceases on the existing code. There are good reasons

Re: [PROPOSAL] CeltiXfire Project

2006-07-03 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Dan, I have to agree that if an existing code base is migrated to Apache, it should not mean that all maintenance ceases on the existing code. There are good reasons for projects dependent on the existing code base to be able to stay on it and not move to the Apache line just because

Re: Dublin Docathon (was Re: [VOTE] Incubator PMC to approve 3.0-M1 release of ServiceMix)

2006-06-19 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi, I'll attend the Dublin conference, getting in Tuesday late morning. I'm interested in contributing, especially to the sample incubator project template in the area of template web site and template build scripts based on maven. I haven't seen much on these topics recently, so I guess

Re: Please change Open JPA to OpenJPA

2006-05-09 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Garrett, I tried to switch my svn workspace but it didn't work. Instead of me showing my ignorance, could you please tell me which directory I should be in and what svn command to execute to perform the switch? Thanks, Craig On May 8, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Garrett Rooney wrote: On

Re: Please change Open JPA to OpenJPA

2006-05-09 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Garrett, Worked great. Thanks. Craig On May 9, 2006, at 9:30 AM, Garrett Rooney wrote: On 5/9/06, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Garrett, I tried to switch my svn workspace but it didn't work. Instead of me showing my ignorance, could you please tell me which directory I

Re: Please change Open JPA to OpenJPA

2006-05-08 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 from me. I'd also like to see the wiki and jira set up if we've agreed on the name. Craig On May 8, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: +1 from me. On 5/8/06, Dain Sundstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did we decide to do this? I am willing to help make the change if I can. -dain

Re: Please change Open JPA to OpenJPA

2006-05-08 Thread Craig L Russell
everyone agreed to, had open-jpa-dev in it, so it was created that way. Do you all think that it's a killer problem to have that hypen in the list name when everything else is OpenJPA? geir Craig L Russell wrote: +1 from me. I'd also like to see the wiki and jira set up if we've agreed

Re: Please change Open JPA to OpenJPA

2006-05-08 Thread Craig L Russell
, Craig L Russell wrote: The names with hypens will be changed once the project graduates from the incubator, so I don't see it as an issue. Craig On May 8, 2006, at 1:33 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: I don't understand the problem. The project is OpenJPA. The wiki is OpenJPA. The project

Re: Why am I getting those emails? (was: FW: MODERATE for lucene-net-user@incubator.apache.org)

2006-04-23 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi George, Try reply all which sends the message to accept plus approve. One is for this single message; the other is a permanent allow. Craig On Apr 23, 2006, at 6:09 PM, George Aroush wrote: Hi folks, Even though I have subscribed to Lucene.Net mailing list, when I submit an email to

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenJPA as an Incubator Podling

2006-03-19 Thread Craig L Russell
[X] +1(non-binding) Accept the OpenJPA proposal Craig Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: What follows is the official proposal for OpenJPA. The unofficial version can be found here http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenJPAProposal Please vote on acceptance of this proposal. The vote will run

Re: [PROPOSAL] Open JPA

2006-03-11 Thread Craig L Russell
On Mar 10, 2006, at 8:58 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Saturday 11 March 2006 03:21, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Which is a really long-winded way of saying: At graduation, maybe it's worthwhile to see whether the podling committers actually earned any Apache merit. Agree. That would also

Re: [PROPOSAL] Open JPA

2006-03-08 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Tom, I think we might have a better chance at unifying these disparate code bases if they are all in one place. And I think that DB might be just the place. For the record, the Apache JDO project has no ORM engine. It has the testing infrastructure for ORM and it has the JDO

Re: [PROPOSAL] Open JPA

2006-03-08 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Yoav, On Mar 7, 2006, at 5:50 PM, Yoav Shapira wrote: :Core Developers: Fourteen of the initial committers are BEA employees. One of those is a committer on the Apache JDO project. We anticipate that five of these fourteen will be involved in the core code development, and the other nine

Re: CORBA Incubation setup procedures

2006-02-08 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi Ken, I reviewed the proposal and yeah, it looks good to me. (non-binding) CORBA is a huge piece of work and I'm not surprised that it takes 22. I'd be surprised if the number of initial committers were less than 13. (random number generator 6..18) Craig On Feb 8, 2006, at 5:41 PM,

Re: ajax proposal?

2006-01-25 Thread Craig L Russell
On Jan 25, 2006, at 12:24 AM, Raphaël Luta wrote: As far I can tell, what needs to happen to fully OSS AjaxTk is something like this: - cleanup the code/doc/install so that Tk can be consumed   by a public communityIt seems to me that something that works in some cases but isn't fully developed as

Re: Prototype of new (Forrest generated) Incubator site

2006-01-02 Thread Craig L Russell
On Jan 1, 2006, at 10:45 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:I've been wanting to create a skin for Forrest that looks like that at http://www.apache.org for some time. Mostly because the default Forrest skins are, well "old".The recent thread here discussing Forrest as a tool has finally prompted me into

Re: Starting a java specs project

2006-01-01 Thread Craig L Russell
I haven't been involved in any history here, so please forgive my naivete.I think I understand the rationale for developing spec jars here at Apache. Please correct me if I'm wrong. In order to use a spec jar from the JCP, you have to click a license every time you download it. And this can be a

Re: Starting a java specs project

2006-01-01 Thread Craig L Russell
On Jan 1, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:Alan D. Cabrera wrote: Craig, you hit the nail on the head with this.  I am running into this now.  The impetus for my attempting to start this is that I currently have to go on an easter egg hunt for spec jars.  I have no strong feelings how

Re: Starting a java specs project

2005-12-30 Thread Craig L Russell
I have a few observations that might help inform what we do here.1. There is often what you might call "implementation" in the javax.spec domain. There are bootstrap classes in the JSR 220 and JSRs 12 and 243 that must be implemented by the javax code. And Exceptions and Errors have to be classes.

Re: Starting a java specs project

2005-12-30 Thread Craig L Russell
On Dec 30, 2005, at 9:50 AM, Brett Porter wrote:On 12/31/05, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it was just coming out of incubation, but yes, that's somethingwe should point to somehow. I agree. This point actually raises something else - it would be a bitsilly to have a specs

Re: Starting a java specs project

2005-12-30 Thread Craig L Russell
On Dec 30, 2005, at 10:18 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:Brett Porter wrote: On 12/31/05, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it was just coming out of incubation, but yes, that's somethingwe should point to somehow. I agree. This point actually raises something else - it would be a

Re: Starting a java specs project

2005-12-30 Thread Craig L Russell
On Dec 30, 2005, at 10:57 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:Craig L Russell wrote: On Dec 30, 2005, at 10:18 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote: Does it need to?  only if people want it.  JPOX is the RI, and I always feel that a truly competitive impl of a spec isn't going to be the RI. You don't want to do

Re: [VOTE] @domain for Incubator mailing lists

2005-12-23 Thread Craig L Russell
On Dec 21, 2005, at 4:55 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:On Dec 21, 2005, at 7:21 PM, Craig L Russell wrote: Excuse me, but don't we have a -1 on this vote thread already? Is the idea to get Dain to change his vote by piling on more +1? Or have I completely missed the Tao of the voting process

Re: [VOTE] @domain for Incubator mailing lists

2005-12-21 Thread Craig L Russell
Excuse me, but don't we have a -1 on this vote thread already? Is the idea to get Dain to change his vote by piling on more +1? Or have I completely missed the Tao of the voting process in Apache?I thought that after a -1 the discussion started again on the disagreements.I'm still looking for an

Re: [VOTE] @domain for Incubator mailing lists

2005-12-19 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi,-0 (non-binding)Not to throw a monkey wrench into this, but:Are we really sure that it's that easy changing an email alias at graduation time? Unlike svn repos that only a few folks use, mailing lists are widespread. Have you thought about exactly how to transition from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] to

Re: [doc] How to graduate from the incubator topic

2005-12-18 Thread Craig L Russell
Here's some:[ ] make sure all committers have commit access to their new repository.[ ] make sure all committers know how to / have karma to update the new web siteCraigOn Dec 18, 2005, at 7:30 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote:Here's a few:[ ] Submit Infra request to move mailing lists and archives.

Re: [vote] JDO out of incubation and into the DB project ( was Re: [discussion] JDO out of incubation)

2005-12-05 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 (non-binding) We're excited to be considered for graduation into the DB TLP.CraigOn Dec 4, 2005, at 7:41 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:I repurposed the discussion thread for continuity to call for a vote.  There has been no concern or objection noted in the last two weeks, so I'll assume that

Re: [discussion] JDO out of incubation

2005-11-18 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi, On Nov 18, 2005, at 8:11 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I'd like to propose that the JDO podling graduate from incubation. I'll call for a vote if this discussion is positive. They are about to do a release, and figure they'd like to do that in their new home at DB rather than in

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