Re: Release Verification Checklist

2013-11-29 Thread Marvin Humphrey
convenience binaries have their own set of common problems (including incorrect N&L) which I anticipate we will want to address through documentation suggesting a specific block of additional checklist items. Marvin Humphrey

Re: Release Verification Checklist

2013-11-29 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 3:55 PM, David Crossley wrote: > Marvin Humphrey wrote: >> [ ] Incubation disclaimer is present and correct. > > There is also the naming of the release, which must have "incubating" > in its name. As Clutch tries to report, many projects ne

Re: Edit access to the wiki

2013-11-28 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 4:42 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > Please grant me edit access to the incubator wiki, so I can fill out > shepherd reports. > > My username is johndament Done. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubsc

Re: Resigning as mentor of NPanday and also from the IPMC

2013-11-27 Thread Marvin Humphrey
o mean feat, and that's all taken care of already. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

December 2013 Report Timeline

2013-11-27 Thread Marvin Humphrey
December 2013 Incubator report timeline: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2013 Wed December 04 -- Podling reports due by end of day Sun December 08 -- Shepherd reviews due by end of day Sun December 08 -- Summary due by end of day Tue December 10 -- Mentor signoff due

Re: Release vote thresholds

2013-11-27 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > >> I am not sure that this is a step in the correct direction. > > Dave, I'm sure you realize that your opposition is deeply disapointing to a > number of

Release Verification Checklist

2013-11-27 Thread Marvin Humphrey
d when rendered using either fixed-width or variable-width fonts. Thoughts? Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

[ANNOUNCE] Raphael Bircher joins the Incubator PMC

2013-11-27 Thread Marvin Humphrey
by signing up as Mentor for the NPanday podling. Marvin Humphrey, on behalf of the Incubator PMC - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Resigning as mentor of NPanday and also from the IPMC

2013-11-26 Thread Marvin Humphrey
ntly (Tashi, Provisionr), while another decided to redouble its efforts (VXQuery). If nothing else, weighing retirement against a project reboot may flush some more lurkers out of hiding or persuade one of the current contributors to take the lead. Marvin Humphrey [1] Here's a message I s

[DISCUSS] Apache Helix as TLP Resolution

2013-11-26 Thread Marvin Humphrey
with the resolution text (which we frequently mess up). Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Report Manager for December

2013-11-26 Thread Marvin Humphrey
asks -- for the same reasons that it is beneficial for a project to have many individuals serve as Release Manager. Hopefully we can get a volunteer to perform the first sequence of steps to prep the wiki template soon, since podling report reminders are scheduled to be sent out tomorr

Re: Release vote thresholds

2013-11-25 Thread Marvin Humphrey
hing tangible and documented. +1 to your formulation, Bertrand -- I think it significantly improves the proposal. I especially like that PPMC votes are *always* binding subject to the requirement that that they be earned through a little extra work.

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire the Provisionr podling

2013-11-25 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Andrei Savu wrote: > I think we are done now. Thank you for cleaning up the camp site. Best wishes to Provisionr's contributors as you move on to other adventures. Marvin Humphrey

Re: Release vote thresholds

2013-11-24 Thread Marvin Humphrey
gt; some things all most impossible, It's not the satellite members of the IPMC that make consensus hard to achieve -- it's the core. The IPMC would be just as prone to dysfunction if it had 30 members instead of 180. Marvin Humphrey [1] http://www.crunchyroll.com/hunter-x-hunter/episode-1

Re: Release vote thresholds

2013-11-24 Thread Marvin Humphrey
its own. If there is a question, I interpret Roy's message in conjunction with statements from other Board members to indicate that if we ask, the Board will take the necessary steps to support us. Marvin Humphrey - To uns

Re: [PROPOSAL] Experiment: VXQuery PPMC Release Voting

2013-11-22 Thread Marvin Humphrey
> Here is my proposal - see if invoking the old experiment (making a pdling > PPMC member into an IPMC member) has the expected and proven effect. Good plan. That's what we tried first. It was a dud[2]. Marvin Humphrey [1] http://s.apache.org/0HG [2

Incubator Committer++

2013-11-22 Thread Marvin Humphrey
achieve? I'm skeptical, but I might be able to support the proposal so long as you're willing to try something else if it doesn't work. At least it's incremental, reversible and harmless aside from the opportunity costs. Marvin Humphrey [1] http://s.apache.org/tZn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Release vote thresholds

2013-11-22 Thread Marvin Humphrey
urrently calling the "Incubator Committer" solution into something which can achieve consensus. It is not necessarily going to be easy to get that proposal as close as this one has come, but let's try. Marvin Humphrey

Re: [IP CLEARANCE] for UIMA-DUCC

2013-11-22 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Marshall Schor wrote: > Dear Incubator, Please check this IP-Clearance form (see > http://incubator.staging.apache.org/ip-clearance/uima-ducc.html ). The form looks to be in order. Marvin Hu

[PROPOSAL] Experiment: VXQuery PPMC Release Voting

2013-11-22 Thread Marvin Humphrey
MC has the necessary authority to enact this proposal. Marvin Humphrey [1] http://s.apache.org/yPX - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Release vote thresholds

2013-11-21 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:33 AM, ant elder wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Marvin Humphrey > wrote: > I think this is getting too hung up on vetting releases is the be all and > end all of PMC membership when really there are other just as if not more > important things

Re: Transition Incubator dist area

2013-11-20 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > If I've done everything right, it should be possible for Infra to flip the > switch and use new-style dist.apache.org synchronization at the incubator/ > level. Infra flipped the switch today. We now use dist.apache.o

Populating the initial PPMC

2013-11-20 Thread Marvin Humphrey
es it's removal unblock your support for the rest of the proposal at <http://s.apache.org/atG>? Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Adding IPMC members based on PPMC merit

2013-11-20 Thread Marvin Humphrey
that you will be supportive of other means which achieve similar ends. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

[ANNOUNCE] Till Westmann joins the IPMC

2013-11-19 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Greetings, The Incubator PMC has voted to offer membership to Till Westmann of the VXQuery podling, and he has accepted. Thanks for joining up, Till! Marvin Humphrey, on behalf of the Incubator PMC - To unsubscribe, e-mail

[ANNOUNCE] Dave Brondsema joins the IPMC

2013-11-19 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Greetings, The Incubator PMC has voted to invite Dave Brondsema, of the Allura podling and the Forrest PMC, to join its ranks. Dave has accepted our invitation. Welcome aboard, Dave! Marvin Humphrey, on behalf of the Incubator PMC

Re: Transition Incubator dist area

2013-11-18 Thread Marvin Humphrey
ere's the matter of dealing with TLPs who still need to link to incubating releases. Jake and I were talking on IRC about giving them a deadline to move needed releases to their own dist area, after which we svn remove their dirs. Two weeks notice seems enough to me

Re: Transition Incubator dist area

2013-11-18 Thread Marvin Humphrey
l space requirements imposed on the mirrors, though I don't know whether there might be a pointless one-time sync cost caused by file datestamp changes. After that, we can nudge the graduated TLPs to come back and pick up after themselves. Marvin Humphrey

Re: Transition Incubator dist area

2013-11-17 Thread Marvin Humphrey
.org, at `/dist/$PODLING`. Marvin Humphrey Incubator PMC Chair Then, if they don't take care of things in a week or two, we move ahead with migrating the artifacts to dist.apache.org, rather than let ourselves be blocked. Marvin Humphrey ---

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-17 Thread Marvin Humphrey
d you'll also solve the acute problem of "what to do when mentors get too busy". Marvin Humphrey [1] http://s.apache.org/URj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Transition Incubator dist area

2013-11-16 Thread Marvin Humphrey
/repos/dist/release/incubator/`, you don't have to be an IPMC member. Any takers? Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-14 Thread Marvin Humphrey
th solely PPMC votes. We need more accountability than that. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-14 Thread Marvin Humphrey
uate communities with the motivation and expertise to attend to it over the long term -- not to certify code. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-13 Thread Marvin Humphrey
sufficient oversight because the first release must cross a high bar, and because it changes the dynamics of electing PPMC members: even core contributors will now have to earn PPMC membership, demonstrating to an initial PPMC composed of IPMC members that they understand the Apache Way well enough

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Tajo-0.2-incubating RC3

2013-11-12 Thread Marvin Humphrey
ort and IP audit weigh in -- so we'd all really appreciate it if you can make the time. I'm not comfortable casting a freelance vote, but if it would help, I can make time to perform some superficial review. Marvin Humphrey

Re: Shepherding November 2013

2013-11-11 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Justin Mclean wrote: > Just added myself. I've seen a project though incubation, I'm a PMC member > and been a release manager. Sweet, Justin's on board. Great to have

Re: Shepherding November 2013

2013-11-11 Thread Marvin Humphrey
ok.py` which generates all the commands and instructions that a "Report Manager" would need to execute -- analogous to a release runbook. I'd meant to have all this stuff done two months ago, but other Incubator Chair responsibilities kept eating my time. I think it's important f

Re: Shepherding November 2013

2013-11-11 Thread Marvin Humphrey
oritize giving new volunteers a chance. > I'd like to volunteer to help you guys out next month. Excellent. I see that you've added yourself to shepherds.json while I was writing this -- thanks for signing up! Marvin Humphrey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_man%27s_switch -

Re: Shepherding November 2013

2013-11-11 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Am 12.11.13 00:04, schrieb Marvin Humphrey: >> >> >> Podlings which did not receive shepherd reviews this cycle: >> >> Aurora >> DeviceMap >> Droids

Shepherding November 2013

2013-11-11 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Shepherd reviews extracted from : Ambari Roman Shaposhnik (rvs): Project should be pretty close to a well deserved graduation. Kudos to the community building effort! BatchEE Suresh Marru (sma

Re: NPanday needs our attention

2013-11-11 Thread Marvin Humphrey
template, get assigned a shepherd, etc. - +December Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: NPanday needs our attention

2013-11-11 Thread Marvin Humphrey
n to "everything else", I still have to follow through on the retirement steps for Tashi. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

[ANNOUNCE] Daniel Gruno joins the IPMC

2013-11-10 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Greets, Apache Member Daniel Gruno (humbedooh) has joined the Incubator PMC. Welcome! Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-10 Thread Marvin Humphrey
te, and subsequent releases have votes from inside the > group. +1 to your summary, Benson. We're on the same page. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional c

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-09 Thread Marvin Humphrey
st, wait for an outsider to cast a "freelance" +1 IPMC vote. 2. Finally, explore the possibility of nominating a standout podling contributor for the IPMC -- but only when all else fails. How about we reverse that: look for a podling contributor wh

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache VXQuery Incubating 0.2 (RC4)

2013-11-09 Thread Marvin Humphrey
e Attic[1]. Not something that has to be resolved for the release, though IMO. Except for the file `DEPENDENCIES`, the archive contents matches the release tag[2]. All dependencies have compatible licensing. Sums and sigs look good[3]. +1 (binding) Cheers, Marvin Humphrey [1] http://www.apa

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-08 Thread Marvin Humphrey
gs have worked out very well: Brian Duxbury (Thrift) Richard Hirsch (ESME) Marvin Humphrey (Lucy) Karl Wright (ManifoldCF) Dave Fisher (OpenOffice) Andrei Savu (Provisionr) I'm proud to be part of that group. I would like to see it grow -- in my view, the Incubator has erred b

Re: [VOTE] Accept Twill for Incubation

2013-11-08 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Andreas Neumann wrote: > [ ] +1 Accept Twill into the Incubator > [ ] +0 Don't care. > [ ] -1 Don't accept Twill because... +1 (binding) Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscri

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-08 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 7 November 2013 22:22, Marvin Humphrey wrote: >> 1. Start with a Board resolution establishing a pTLP PMC seeded with IPMC >> members. >> 2. Vote podling contributors onto the PMC as they demonstrate merit.

Re: [IMO] There are no Incubator issues

2013-11-07 Thread Marvin Humphrey
I had to walk to school barefoot in the snow uphill both ways doesn't mean that our children should have to. :) Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-ma

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Marvin Humphrey
ly flawed. Still, because my point was awkwardly crafted, I wound up singling out the Allura team in a negative context. I apologize for my clumsiness. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apac

Re: Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Marvin Humphrey
ot, how would we grant them a binding vote? Also, if a new person gets voted in as "Podling Chair", are we OK with the podling's increasing IPMC representation? (I think that could have the desirable side effect of encouraging project founders to give up th

Cultivating Outstanding IP Stewards

2013-11-07 Thread Marvin Humphrey
27;s system for approving releases is at odds with everything we believe at Apache about self-governance. It produces inferior releases, an inferior incubation experience, inferior students and an inferior ASF. We should change it. Marvin Humphrey --

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Marmotta as TLP

2013-11-04 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Jakob Frank wrote: > [ ] +1 Graduate the Marmotta podling from Incubator > [ ] +0 Indifferent to graduation status of the Marmotta podling > [ ] -1 Reject graduation of the Marmotta podling from Incubator because... +1 Happy trails, Marvin

Re: November 2013 Report timeline

2013-11-04 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Am 04.11.13 04:23, schrieb Marvin Humphrey: >> Shepherd assignments, which are generated automatically via a new Python >> script as of this cycle, are also on the wiki page. > > Can you correct my first name? Rap

November 2013 Report timeline

2013-11-03 Thread Marvin Humphrey
e adequate opportunity to give them the attention they deserve. Shepherd assignments, which are generated automatically via a new Python script as of this cycle, are also on the wiki page. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mai

Re: please follow through to publish doc changes

2013-10-29 Thread Marvin Humphrey
; It is preventing other people from working. Same with podlings.xml. I don't suppose DeltaSpike is ever going to perform the post-graduation cleanup -- they're going to be getting incubating reporting reminders forever. Also, somebody's dropped the ba

Re: [PROPOSAL] Weave for Apache Incubator

2013-10-29 Thread Marvin Humphrey
ffice, it will be vital to emphasize communicating on the dev list so that potential contributors never feel as though they've been left out of the loop. (I'm reminded of Aurora, which entered incubation with 7 Twitter employees as the initial committers[1].) Marvin Humphrey [1

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Marmotta as TLP

2013-10-29 Thread Marvin Humphrey
;t do a line-by-line check of the whole thing.) I look forward to voting in favor of Marmotta's graduation. I also look forward to encountering you folks around the rest of Apache -- including, if we're lucky, here

Welcome to the Incubator, Sirona community!

2013-10-24 Thread Marvin Humphrey
w Sirona's development, the subscription address is <mailto:dev-subscr...@sirona.incubator.apache.org>. Have a pleasant journey, Marvin Humphrey Apache Incubator PMC Chair - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator

Welcome to the Incubator, Usergrid community!

2013-10-24 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Usergrid's development, the subscription address is <mailto:dev-subscr...@usergrid.incubator.apache.org>. Cheers, Marvin Humphrey Apache Incubator PMC Chair - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apac

Welcome to the Incubator, BatchEE community!

2013-10-24 Thread Marvin Humphrey
BatchEE's development, the subscription address is <mailto:dev-subscr...@batchee.incubator.apache.org>. Cheers, Marvin Humphrey Apache Incubator PMC Chair - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org Fo

Welcome to the Incubator, Aurora community!

2013-10-24 Thread Marvin Humphrey
w Aurora's development, the subscription address is <mailto:dev-subscr...@aurora.incubator.apache.org>. Cheers, Marvin Humphrey Apache Incubator PMC Chair - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For

Re: Project reboot proposals - any guidance?

2013-10-24 Thread Marvin Humphrey
the Incubator's proposal template are very thought provoking. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

[VOTE][RESULT] Retire the Tashi podling

2013-10-16 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > [ ] +1 Retire the Tashi podling > [ ] +0 Neither here nor there > [ ] -1 Do not retire the podling because ... The VOTE passes, with binding +1 votes from the following IPMC members: Alan D. Cabrera Chip Childers

[DISCUSS] Release Apache VXQuery Incubating 0.2 (RC4)

2013-10-16 Thread Marvin Humphrey
opinions a few weeks ago to > at least look at the release we have created and vote either for or against > it. I rarely perform freelance release reviews any more because the current system infuriates me and I do not wish to spend my volunteer time perpetuating it. However, I'm pleas

Re: Too many late reports

2013-10-07 Thread Marvin Humphrey
to general@incubator with the list of podlings expected to report, due dates, shepherd assignments, and a link to the wiki page. * Persuade the other "Marvin" to send out reminders to individual podling dev lists exactly one week before their reports are due. Marvin Humphrey

Re: Shepherd assignments October 2013

2013-10-07 Thread Marvin Humphrey
have a report already prepared, please go ahead. If not, feel free to wait until next month to file, allowing time for mentor signoff and the shepherding cycle. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.

Re: Too many late reports

2013-10-07 Thread Marvin Humphrey
lly improved results by getting our own house in order and expecting excellence from ourselves first. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Shepherding October 2013

2013-10-07 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Greets, Here is a compendium of shepherd commentary from the Incubator's October 2013 report. Three podlings reporting this month were not assigned shepherds and are not included: Chukwa, jclouds and Storm. Marvin Humphrey Celix Shepherd

Too many late reports

2013-10-06 Thread Marvin Humphrey
humans are not ideal replacements for cron jobs. It's time to ask again: what would it take to get those reminders firing with unerring reliability three weeks before the Board meeting? Is it realistic to attempt a patch eliminating the need for an svn password? Marvin Humphrey [1] http://s.apach

Re: request edit rights for incubator wiki

2013-10-04 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Am 04.10.13 21:30, schrieb Marvin Humphrey: > >> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: >>> >>> I need edit right on the incubator wiki for shepherding. >> >> Please let us kno

Re: request edit rights for incubator wiki

2013-10-04 Thread Marvin Humphrey
s from this month's report and send them to general@incubator in one bunch -- so filing your report on the wiki is best as it will go both to the board and to the mailing list without further ado. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscr

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-03 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Alex Harui wrote: > On 10/2/13 12:58 PM, "Marvin Humphrey" wrote: >> Rather than a "rewrite", I suggest proposing small, incremental, reversible >> changes. Governance is easy to mess up. > > Well, "small, incre

[VOTE] Retire the Tashi podling

2013-10-02 Thread Marvin Humphrey
the podling because ... This vote will remain open for at least the next 72 hours. Here is my +1. Marvin Humphrey [1] http://s.apache.org/G1S [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail

Welcome to the Incubator, Storm community!

2013-10-02 Thread Marvin Humphrey
;s development, the subscription address is <mailto:dev-subscr...@storm.incubator.apache.org>. Bon voyage, Marvin Humphrey Apache Incubator PMC Chair - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For

[ANNOUNCE] Christian Müller joins the IPMC

2013-10-02 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Apache Member and Apache Camel PMC Chair Christian Müller has joined the Incubator PMC. Welcome! Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread Marvin Humphrey
situation where podlings MAY rather than MUST write bylaws. Dunno if a Board resolution is needed. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-02 Thread Marvin Humphrey
-- and I'm the Incubator PMC chair and a voracious consumer of documentation. :( I'm not a fan of forcing projects to draft bylaws (most will do it badly because they have not had the experience of "the Apache group" which coalesced around the HTTPD

Re: [VOTE] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator (revised proposal)

2013-10-02 Thread Marvin Humphrey
sing as a result of this technicality if nobody else does, so please carry on. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Shepherd assignments October 2013

2013-10-01 Thread Marvin Humphrey
coming weekend. I plan to email a compendium to general@incubator on Monday to allow time for comment before the Incubator report is delivered to the Board on Wednesday. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr

Re: Apache project bylaws

2013-10-01 Thread Marvin Humphrey
but bylaws are really hard to get right and every little flaw is an opportunity to waste time arguing over legislative minutia. Projects which inherit as many well-exercised rules as possible from the foundation rather than creating their own rules ex nihilo get to spend less time debugging legal

Re: [VOTE] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator (revised proposal)

2013-09-30 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Dave wrote: > I would like to call for a new vote on Usergrid, a multi-tenant > Backend-as-a-Service stack for web & mobile applications based on RESTful > APIs, as an Apache Incubator podling. +1 (binding) Good luck! Ma

Re: The podling initial committers issue

2013-09-27 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Martijn's suggestion preserves the best aspects of "open enrollment" while appropriately delaying delicate discussions about meritocracy and openness until incubation is underway. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

October 2013 Report timeline

2013-09-25 Thread Marvin Humphrey
ders, that would be great.) Celix Chukwa DeviceMap Helix jclouds Marmotta MetaModel ODF Toolkit Olingo Ripple Samza Sentry Spark Storm Stratos Tashi VXQuery Marvi

Re: [DISCUSS] Release of Apache Allura (incubating) v1.0.0

2013-09-25 Thread Marvin Humphrey
'm inclined to defer to Allura's Mentors, who presumably have a more complete context about the motivations, costs and benefits of various alternatives. HTH, Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Please add me to the Contributors Group on the Incubator Wiki

2013-09-25 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jake Farrell wrote: > Can I please be added as a contributor to the incubator wiki > > Username: jfarrell Done. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general

Re: Request to add as contributor to edit the Incubator wiki

2013-09-25 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Niranjan Karunanandham wrote: > My wiki username is Niranjan Karunanandham. Please add as a Contributor > with permission to edit the Incubator wiki. Done. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscr

Re: Please add me to the Contributors Group on the Incubator Wiki

2013-09-25 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Debo Dutta (dedutta) wrote: > Mine is DeboDutta Done. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: genera

Re: Please add me to the Contributors Group on the Incubator Wiki

2013-09-25 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Dave wrote: > My username is DaveJohnson Done. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: genera

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

2013-09-25 Thread Marvin Humphrey
them succeed in that area as we would in any other. Marvin Humphrey On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 6:24 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > I think there's just a lot of misunderstanding and overreaction over > nothing .. all based on presumed negative intent. > > Time to get past this and g

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

2013-09-24 Thread Marvin Humphrey
called then the vote must be cancelled, the change made, and the vote restarted. Alternatively, Mentors will advise on how to make the change once the proposal has been accepted if this is appropriate. Marvin Humphrey - To unsu

Re: binary release artifacts

2013-09-23 Thread Marvin Humphrey
nsing documentation bugs in our canonical source releases. When we can't even get our official releases right, I don't think it makes sense to dilute our already thin quality control resources. Marvin Humphrey -

KEYS files within source archives

2013-09-23 Thread Marvin Humphrey
laws with that approach: former RMs who leave the community suddenly causing the key needed for an old release to become unavailable, etc. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.o

Re: binary release artifacts

2013-09-23 Thread Marvin Humphrey
ar enough outside the norm to require removal. The norm being: whether anybody performs any quality control at all on a given convenenience binary is a crapshoot. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@inc

Re: Is there a need for a "Assisten mentor"?

2013-09-23 Thread Marvin Humphrey
d comments will be sent to general@incubator on Monday, allowing 2-3 days for people to respond if necessary. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Shepherding September 2013

2013-09-23 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 3:48 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Means, I'm willing to take over a slot. I'm Committer and PMC Member of > Apache OpenOffice. Thanks for volunteering! I've added your name to the list: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorSheph

[ANNOUNCE] Tammo van Lessen joins the IPMC

2013-09-23 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Apache Member and current Apache ODE PMC Chair Tammo van Lessen has joined the Incubator PMC. Welcome aboard! Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail

Re: [DISCUSS] Usergrid BaaS Stack for Apache Incubator

2013-09-23 Thread Marvin Humphrey
s. There's not much to do for it except to raise awareness every once in a while. Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: binary release artifacts

2013-09-19 Thread Marvin Humphrey
t from "convenience binaries". zip -o apache-foo-1.2.3.zip touch-the-rainbow.gif Marvin Humphrey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

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