Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:21 PM, ant elder wrote: >> Also, if we do the making best practices a graduation requirement >> instead of a release requirement that might alleviate the poor mentor >> issue as its easy enough to check the latest

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread sebb
On 21/08/2009, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:21 PM, ant elder wrote: > > Also, if we do the making best practices a graduation requirement > > instead of a release requirement that might alleviate the poor mentor > > issue as its easy enough to check the latest release at

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 2:21 PM, ant elder wrote: > Also, if we do the making best practices a graduation requirement > instead of a release requirement that might alleviate the poor mentor > issue as its easy enough to check the latest release at graduation > time and vote against graduation until

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:02 PM, ant elder wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >> My concern is more that of 'complacent mentors'... How many people >> vote +1 even if they have not scrutinized the release requirements? >> IMHO, too many... So, would that mean that so

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread sebb
On 21/08/2009, ant elder wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:55 AM, sebb wrote: > > -1 > > > > AIUI, all proposed releases must be voted on by the IPMC, not just by > > the podlings. > > > > > And they still would be as the only binding votes are from IPMC > members, and thats just the same

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote: > > On 21 Aug 2009, at 08:58, ant elder wrote: > >> What do people think about changing the poddling release voting >> process so that there is just a single vote which is held on the >> poddlings dev list instead of the dual voting we have now w

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Rainer Döbele wrote: > > I agree with Martijn's view on the first release of a podling which is much > more critical than subsequent releases. > > But for subsequent releases the voting process should be simplified in one > way or the other. At the moment we have

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:55 AM, sebb wrote: > -1 > > AIUI, all proposed releases must be voted on by the IPMC, not just by > the podlings. > And they still would be as the only binding votes are from IPMC members, and thats just the same as the situation with the poddling new committer and ppmc

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:40 PM, J Aaron Farr wrote: >> >> On Fri 21 Aug 2009 14:58, ant elder wrote: >> >>> What do people think about changing the poddling release voting >>> process so that there is just a single vote which is held on the

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:40 AM, J Aaron Farr wrote: > > On Fri 21 Aug 2009 14:58, ant elder wrote: > >> What do people think about changing the poddling release voting >> process so that there is just a single vote which is held on the >> poddlings dev list instead of the dual voting we have now

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread Jan Lehnardt
On 21 Aug 2009, at 08:58, ant elder wrote: What do people think about changing the poddling release voting process so that there is just a single vote which is held on the poddlings dev list instead of the dual voting we have now with a poddling dev list vote followed by an general@ vote? This

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread sebb
s. > Hence my opinion is: > -1 for the first release > +1 for subsequent releases > > Rainer > > > Martijn Dashorst wrote: > > Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process > > > > > -1 > > > > I try to check my podlings'

re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread Rainer Döbele
Changing poddling release voting process > > -1 > > I try to check my podlings' releases personally, but I usually fail > where Sebb shines :). It is much easier to guide the addition of new > committers/ppmc members than it is to properly vet a *first* release. > > T

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread Martijn Dashorst
-1 I try to check my podlings' releases personally, but I usually fail where Sebb shines :). It is much easier to guide the addition of new committers/ppmc members than it is to properly vet a *first* release. The first release of any podling is an exercise of patience and frustration, but it doe

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 3:40 PM, J Aaron Farr wrote: > > On Fri 21 Aug 2009 14:58, ant elder wrote: > >> What do people think about changing the poddling release voting >> process so that there is just a single vote which is held on the >> poddlings dev list instead of the dual voting we have now

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread Thilo Goetz
J Aaron Farr wrote: > On Fri 21 Aug 2009 14:58, ant elder wrote: > >> What do people think about changing the poddling release voting >> process so that there is just a single vote which is held on the >> poddlings dev list instead of the dual voting we have now with a >> poddling dev list vote f

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread J Aaron Farr
On Fri 21 Aug 2009 14:58, ant elder wrote: > What do people think about changing the poddling release voting > process so that there is just a single vote which is held on the > poddlings dev list instead of the dual voting we have now with a > poddling dev list vote followed by an general@ vote

Re: [DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:58 AM, ant elder wrote: > What do people think about changing the poddling release voting > process so that there is just a single vote which is held on the > poddlings dev list instead of the dual voting we have now with a > poddling dev list vote followed by an gene

[DISCUSS] Changing poddling release voting process

2009-08-20 Thread ant elder
What do people think about changing the poddling release voting process so that there is just a single vote which is held on the poddlings dev list instead of the dual voting we have now with a poddling dev list vote followed by an general@ vote? This would be similar to the changes done recently f