Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi, The project was aware of these issues before the graduation proposal was submitted, and some issues had been outstanding for more than a year. I understand it can be complex and take time dealing with 3rd parties about these issues, but I do have to ask if there are people from StarRocks

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Yes, StarRocks is my employer now. After I learned that there is a license issue in StarRocks codebase, I informed this to the company. When we realized the oversight, we changed the license headers ASAP. Thanks, Zhao Chun John D. Ament 于2022年5月20日周五 20:27写道： > On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 08:09

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 08:09 Zhao Chun wrote: > Justin, thanks for your note. > > I'm one of Apache Doris PPMC members, and now working for StarRocks. > > We have our web developers update our web site to fix the > trademark/branding issues. > > We have also modified our codebase to ensure that

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Justin, thanks for your note. I'm one of Apache Doris PPMC members, and now working for StarRocks. We have our web developers update our web site to fix the trademark/branding issues. We have also modified our codebase to ensure that unchanged files in our repo bear the Apache license notice

Re:Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi Justin, The website[1] has been modified, such as adding asf disclaimer at the footer. And this artical[2] is a machine-translated article by a third-party website. We have contacted the author to delete the corresponding Chinese article.(This article is just a personal blog and does not come

Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

[1] and [2] has been renamed. And [3] has been removed. The website[4] still has some issues waiting to be modified. I will keep touch with starrocks. [1] https://github.com/StarRocks/flink-connector-starrocks [2] https://github.com/StarRocks/spark-starrocks-connector [3]

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

HI, There is also an issue with the naming and use of ASF trademark of this product: https://github.com/StarRocks/flink-connector-starrocks And this: https://github.com/StarRocks/apache-orc And this: https://github.com/StarRocks/spark-starrocks-connector Kind Regards, Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

HI, > I searched their website and found this is a link "trademarks"[1] at the > bottom of every page. Does this meet the requirements? No as explained before it does not. Most of the answers can be found in the trademark FAQ including [1][2][3] There are further issues with pages like [4].

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Hi, > The current StarRock website is still not following ASF trademark / branding > policy. I searched their website and found this is a link "trademarks"[1] at the bottom of every page. Does this meet the requirements? [1] https://www.starrocks.com/en-US/product/trademarks -- 此致！Best

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi, Some are recent (in 2022) but I don’t know how or if the author(s) are related to either project. Taking one at random [1] it was published on 15-5-2022 and looks to me not following ASF trademark policy and potentially misleading users, although It’s hard to say for certain as I can only

Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi Justin, 1. About articles of "Doris" in google search results The articles you mentioned in your last email have been contacted to the corresponding website for deletion. However, there are indeed some articles that are not well described and do not conform to ASF specifications. I

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi, Thanks for the update on the trademark transfer. There are still some branding and trademark issues outstanding, a simple google search shows this. e.g. search for "Baidu Doris" or "DorisDB". For instance, this page (updated 4 days ago) [1] or this page [2] (updated 7 days ago) and

Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi Justin, Sorry for the late reply. First of all, I would like to explain the issues about the Doris trademark. 1. Trademark and branding issues related to Starrocks Starrocks is a database product of a commercial company that used the name DorisDB in early 2021. After that, Doris PPMC

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi, In short: - There are still some trademark and branding issues, including some that the PPMC have been made aware of and have been outstanding for more than a year. - Have the Doris trademark(s) been transferred to the ASF? AFAIK they have not. [1][2] This issue has also been brought up wth

Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi Justin, I have already made some answers to your questions. I would like to know what specific problems we still need to solve? -- 此致！Best Regards 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen Email: chenmin...@apache.org 在 2022-05-15 08:32:58，"Justin Mclean" 写道： >Hi, > >Thanks for promptly fixing that branding

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi, Thanks for promptly fixing that branding issue. However, there are still a few unanswered questions here, and until they are answered, I’m -1 on graduation to TLP. Perhaps one of the podling mentors or PPMC members could answer? Kind Regards, Justin

Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

> I would have some concerns if these PPMC members are on the proposed PMC > member list of Apache Doris. Is this the case? As far as I'm concerned, this is no problem. Confirmation of the initial PMC membership list is jointly decided by the PPMC members. We have solved some issues together

Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

> One other issue is trademark ownership, previously it been stated that Baidu > owns the Doris trademark in China. Have this trademark been transferred to > the ASF?Yes, It has been transferred. We have completed the communication > with Mark Thomas on the matter of trademark transfer, and

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi, It looks like some of the previous trademark/branding issues that have been raised (around a year ago) still need to be resolved. What is the status with this? For instance: https://cloud-tencent-com.translate.goog/product/cdwdoris?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

HI, One other issue is trademark ownership, previously it been stated that Baidu owns the Doris trademark in China. Have this trademark been transferred to the ASF? [1][2] Kind Regards, Justin 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/faq/#incubator 2.

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi, > 2. I didn't find ASF branding issue on this site[2]. Could you help to point > out? There are several issues but in general this is not being followed [1] So in short use of trademark symbol and missing trademark disclaimer, Kind Regards, Justin 1.

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi, > Could the ASF Foundation Legal Department have **more effective** support > on trademark issues? I’m not sure that the project has involved trademarks to provide support. I certainly found a few things that I was unaware of and that had not been mentioned in the project reports. > As

Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi Justin, Thanks for your check. 1. Looks like this repo has been deleted sometime today. So I think this is resolved. 2. I didn't find ASF branding issue on this site[2]. Could you help to point out? [1] https://github.com/DorisDB [2] https://www.starrocks.com/en-US/index -- 此致！Best

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

> About branding issue We have tried to communicate and resolve trademark issues regarding DorisDB and Doris [1], but it seems that there are still some residual issues.[2][3] As Doris' PMC I will continue to actively try to address these issues. Could the ASF Foundation Legal Department have

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi, I've brought up the StarRocks header license issue on the legal discuss mailing list, to see what can be done about it. Kind Regards, Justin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi, I think there may still be some issues around DorisDB [1] and StarRocks, although these might not be a graduation issues. For instance StarRocks claims it’s "Free and Open Software” but it actually under the Elastic License 2.0. There are some minor ASF branding/trademark issues on their

Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Dear IPMC, Thanks for all the discussions and suggestions. At present, everyone's suggestions have been responded to and corrected. If there are no other suggestions or comments, I will launch a formal graduation vote in these two days. Thanks again! -- 此致！Best Regards 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

As Doris' mentor, I have seen Doris' efforts in protecting and solving brand issues; during the incubation process, Doris released multiple Apache releases and attracted many new committers. I think Doris is ready to graduate, good luck:) Thanks, Ming Wen, Apache APISIX PMC Chair Twitter:

Re:[DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hello, [1] shows me the efforts and commitments from Doris community. More PMCs, committers, contributors joined; More releases are available under the supervising and guiding of the committee. Hope it’s better and my support for this discussion. [1]

Re: Re:Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Thanks for fixing this. I am good for your graduation, congrats to the team. Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 陈明雨 于2022年4月20日周三 12:32写道： > > Hi Sheng Wu, > > But according to my understanding of Apache License 2.0, the copied > > source files/path should be listed in the source code's License

Re:Re:Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi Sheng Wu, > But according to my understanding of Apache License 2.0, the copied > source files/path should be listed in the source code's License file We have fixed this issue[1], please review. and welcome to continue discussions on other issues [1]

Re:Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

> But according to my understanding of Apache License 2.0, the copied > source files/path should be listed in the source code's License file,Indeed > we miss that part, I will add them. -- 此致！Best Regards 陈明雨 Mingyu Chen Email: chenmin...@apache.org At 2022-04-18 23:23:09, "Sheng Wu"

Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

In the past years, I see the Doris community grows steadly; It has attracted many developers, got a lot of adoptions. In the meanwhile, The community has been more diverse than before (when entered incubator, most developers are Baidu engineers); and they know well about how to make Apache

Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi Willem and Mingyu Thanks for updating the status. I read README, License and Notice, yes, they mentioned about source codes are from Impala, and it is fine that two projects can't be merged, this is a pure tech decision, and I don't have an issue about that. But according to my understanding

Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi Sheng Wu, Thanks for you reply. Our mentor Willem has helped answer some questions, here I also answer from my perspective: > I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice > there is only one mentor who confirmed his support. > And no mentor voted(from vote summary)

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Please see my comments below. On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 8:44 PM Sheng Wu wrote: > > Hi Mingyu and Doris team > > Glad to see you are moving forward to the graduation. > > I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice > there is only one mentor who confirmed his support. >

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi, I think I provided an update about Doris already. I'm supportive of the graduation and I would be happy to continue as PMC on Doris project. +1 to contact the other mentors. Regards JB On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 2:43 PM Sheng Wu wrote: > > Hi Mingyu and Doris team > > Glad to see you are

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Hi Mingyu and Doris team Glad to see you are moving forward to the graduation. I just read your graduation discussion on a dev mail list and notice there is only one mentor who confirmed his support. And no mentor voted(from vote summary) for your graduation. Could you check with your mentors?

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Glad to see Doris is ready to graduate. Good luck. 陈明雨 于2022年4月10日周日 23:51写道： > Dear Incubator Community, > > After a discussion[1][2] and vote[3] with the community, we believe Apache > Doris (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to make > a discussion with the IPMC. > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Good luck! Lidong Dai 于2022年4月16日周六 13:09写道： > The Apache Doris community develops very well. > Good luck. > > > Best Regards > > > > --- > Apache DolphinScheduler PMC Chair & Apache SeaTunnel PPMC > Lidong Dai > lidong...@apache.org > Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dailidong

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

The Apache Doris community develops very well. Good luck. Best Regards --- Apache DolphinScheduler PMC Chair & Apache SeaTunnel PPMC Lidong Dai lidong...@apache.org Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dailidong Twitter: @WorkflowEasy

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

great to see this happened. good luck. On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 11:51 PM 陈明雨 wrote: > Dear Incubator Community, > > After a discussion[1][2] and vote[3] with the community, we believe Apache > Doris (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to make > a discussion with the

[DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Doris (Incubating) as TLP

Dear Incubator Community, After a discussion[1][2] and vote[3] with the community, we believe Apache Doris (Incubating) is ready for graduation to a TLP, and we'd like to make a discussion with the IPMC. Doris is an MPP-based interactive SQL data warehousing for reporting and analysis and