Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

2019-04-08 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
OK, last call for thoughts small and large. If there are none, tomorrow morning CEST the vote thread will begin. Gh On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 11:52, Nick Kew wrote: > > > > On 8 Apr 2019, at 07:53, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > > > It is controled by Apache. > > Indeed, I can see that from the

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

2019-04-08 Thread Nick Kew
> On 8 Apr 2019, at 07:53, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > It is controled by Apache. Indeed, I can see that from the infra ticket you posted this morning. I had hoped to draw comment on the broader question, which is (also) relevant to a podling I mentor that has an existing pre-incubation

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

2019-04-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 9:59 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > ...I do not see this as a blocker for graduation... With my NetBeans incubation mentor hat on I agree - the state of netbeans.org is acceptable as is for graduating, with the understanding that the project is still working on it and

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

2019-04-08 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Here is where we're discussing this now (again) on the dev mailing list, with some concrete ideas: https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f7943e7e3000acd3aacb79b5ebfc874c1b0cfc80246aecb83c5b028c@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E But, I do not see this as a blocker for graduation. Unless someone

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

2019-04-08 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
It is controled by Apache. Gj On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 08:38, Nick Kew wrote: > > > > On 8 Apr 2019, at 06:22, Greg Stein wrote: > > > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 6:14 PM Justin Mclean > > wrote: > >> ... > > > >> - What the situation with https://netbeans.org website? > >> > > > > That question

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

2019-04-08 Thread Nick Kew
> On 8 Apr 2019, at 06:22, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 6:14 PM Justin Mclean > wrote: >> ... > >> - What the situation with https://netbeans.org website? >> > > That question is too open-ended. What is your concern? > > Cheers, > -g OK, I'll bite. I haven't been

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

2019-04-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 12:41 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > >> - What the situation with https://netbeans.org website? > > > > That question is too open-ended. What is your concern? > > No specific concern other than a general branding one. It’s slightly > unusual for a podling to graduate

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

2019-04-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17245 Gj On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 7:53 AM Geertjan Wielenga < geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On the other hand, I don't think there'd be an objection -- and it might > be the right moment -- to redirect netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org >

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

2019-04-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On the other hand, I don't think there'd be an objection -- and it might be the right moment -- to redirect netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org right now, there's an issue for this with Greg Stein that we could follow up in the form of doing this, it would be a good moment because of the symbolism

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

2019-04-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Note that every link on netbeans.org front page redirects to netbeans.apache.org -- it's simply a facade right now for netbeans.apache.org and is only there since we're concerned that parts of it are still needed. So, it is not the podling's previous website in the true sense of the word. Gj On

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

2019-04-07 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, >> - What the situation with https://netbeans.org website? > > That question is too open-ended. What is your concern? No specific concern other than a general branding one. It’s slightly unusual for a podling to graduate with it’s previous website still in existence, but the explanation

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

2019-04-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 6:14 PM Justin Mclean wrote: >... > - What the situation with https://netbeans.org website? > That question is too open-ended. What is your concern? Cheers, -g

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

2019-04-07 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi Justin, We're close to being able to shutdown/redirect netbeans.org completely and use netbeans.apache.org for everything. In terms of content, everything we wanted to keep from netbeans.org, e.g., tutorials and feature descriptions, has been donated by Oracle to Apache. We're matching the URL

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

2019-04-07 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Just wondering if you could answer a few questions: - What the situation with https://netbeans.org website? - How diverse (in terms of who employs them) are the proposed PPMC members? With the large size I’m assuming many different employers but it would still be interesting to know how

[DISCUSS] Graduate Apache NetBeans (incubating) as a TLP

2019-04-05 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, Since Apache NetBeans (incubating) entered the Apache incubator in October 2016, we have completed 3 releases, integrated the NetBeans community into working in the Apache Way, gradually migrated donations received from Oracle to Apache, and are not complete in that process since there